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...not that sort of spell Lov.
spell, as in a duration of time i believe.

Correct. I'm referring to a short list of anti-popes whose "pontificates" were seated at a chateau in Auvergne.

TCP

Pretty much everything you've ever posted here.



I guess I don't make a habit of sitting by the computer waiting for you to get back to me.

TCP

Oh Doh! as Homer Simpson says Sorry misunderstood

I will ask if anybody has heard of a legend where a group tried to conduct a spell in one of these caves of RLC
and something terrible happened....I heard this story from a great alchemist Druid
The area is a sacred area but it also has a very dark past too.
I'm not going into it too much but I was warned about it

I heard about it from a Tantric archpriestess but I'm sworn to secrecy.

TCP

I know what your talking about TCP
The Druid was too and was very vague about the whole affair
I didn't press but have been waiting for someone to bring it up

But I haven't seen anything
Somethings are best buried and subjects closed

Aix-en-Provence centre for the Cult of the Black Madonna.

In the Bouche du Rhone (Occitan: Bocas de Ròse) department. As in l'embouchure du Rhone


The Black Madonna in the church of Notre-Dame-de-Marceille close to Limoux.

So why don't you tell me what Marsilia and Marsilla and Massilia all mean? What's the wetting of the eyelids ritual that Boudet mentioned in La Vraie Langue Celtique et le Cromleck de Rennes les Bains all about Sheila?

"I am the Dark Goddess whose ascendancy has begun with the Summer Solstice."


Soularac (Occitan for Solar Rock) and St Barthelemy (Son of Ptolemy; Ptolemy II who made the first meridian line) photograph taken from Notre Dame de Marseille.

The sun will set between these peaks for three days from December 22nd to December 24th then on the 25th will set further to the right. It will never set to the left of these peaks.

The period between December 22nd and December 24th is called the Winter Solstice. The following day December 25th the sunset starts to move North again - It is reborn.


When did you last visit Notre-Dame-de-Marceille Sheila?

Tell me why Saunière was interested in Maguelonne?

now that i didn't know...well spotted.

Part of the reasoning for the wetting of the eyelids is in the fact that "Notre Dame de Marceille" was not dedicated to the BVM, but to another Mary. The practice is taught to the children, which is the true use of the fountain of "Our Lady of Marceille". Who is "Our lady of Marceille" Roscoe, and what does this true use of the fountain represent?

And which other Mary might that be?

TCP

Yep, the fountain on the sacra via down from the church is alleged to cure eyesight problems...didn't work for the wife though.

But did she see faeries?

TCP

KJV


JÉSU . MEDÈLA . VULNÉRUM + SPES . UNA . PŒNITENTIUM
PER . MAGDALÀNÆ . LACRYMAS + PECCATA . NOSTRA . DILUAS

"Jesus, cures wounds + hope at the same time pays the penalty,
by Magdalene's tears + dilute our errors."

Smashed in the 1970s by someone who didn't like this phrase. It has never been replaced.






Leo
- Le serpent rouge.

Please note that all versions of Le Serpent Rouge have the word CROSS written in English.

The above drawing of the weeping virgin next to the broken column of Solomons Temple was drawn by a man named CROSS.

The whole Magdalene/Jesus story is a direct copy of the Isis/Osiris story and the Cult of Isis pervaded the island of Maguelonne.

Isis and Osiris are Sirius and Orion respectively

The story of Hiram Abiff

Solomon's Temple is a Solar Temple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdtTwfUK ... re=related





The centre of the Cult of Isis is the town of ARLES where a cult of worshippers of Isis is supposed to have existed. Indeed in Roman times the area is also reputed to have been the centre of the worship of the Roman goddess Diana. Records of Sara’s veneration in Southern France do not exist before 1800 but this may be due to her being allegedly a Gypsy and it must be remembered that the Holy Roman church stamped out with great ferocity any veneration not sanctioned by them. It is important to note that the Catholic Church has later decanonized Sara. However this veneration seems to have come from the ordinary people and not the church and the church’s decanonization has had little effect on her veneration by ordinary people and she is celebrated every year at Saintes-Maries-de-la-mer and this veneration is tolerated by the Catholic priests of the area.


Marie de NEGRE de ARLES
Do I have to spell it out for you?

Now you know why I chose Romanian to show the name Masillia

Remind me again from where the Cathars originated?

The marshlands of the Camargue south of Arles are very much associated with gypsy life.

Nice little article here by Garth Cartwright on the annual Gitan Pilgrimage, which begins:



Continues here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2011/m ... l-camargue

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No, no let me spell it out for you
According to the above post - I think I know where you are coming from now, Roscoe.

Here are Roscoe's beliefs.

1.) Sauniere believed in Hiram Abiff and worshipped him in Solomon's temple which is a solar temple.

2.) He also worshipped Sarah, whom accompanied Mary Magdalene. So he basically worshipped an Egyptian slave as well probably in Solomon's temple which is a solar temple.

3.) Roma or Gypsies also worship Sara the Black which may be Kali. So Sauniere must have been a Gypsy previously Indian worshipping an Egyptian slave.

4.) Jump to Arles - worshippers of cult of Isis, so Sauniere must have been a worshipper in the cult of Isis in Arles.

5.) So to conclude Sauniere was an Gypsy/Indian worshipper of an Egyptian slave & a cult member of Isis(a lunar diety) & the roman goddess Diana in Arles & in Solomon's temple which is a solar temple.

And Roscoe chose to show us this by chosing ROMANIAN as a word underlying the word ROMAN to show Masillia.



Not in RLC but according to your logic, they are really Martians from Mars. It's about the only planetary influence you haven't mentioned.

Where is the evidence of Cathars in RLC?

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All that and not a Greek in sight.

Yers!!!

Your summary reminds me of this

You really do have it in for me don't you?

And all I have dared to say is that you need to start posting your evidence of the link to Rennes le Chateau before continuing with that Crista junk.

And because you are totally unable to do this the dummy comes out of the pram.

Well then may I suggest you don't spit your dummy out the pram - I did see where you called people idiots and swore before the moderator deleted the posts.



I don't have it in for you Roscoe - where am I wrong?

I'm just applying logic - this is why people don't read your posts because they are seemingly full of contradictions and false assumptions, I can't help with that but I can to some degree provide a better summation.

With a Cathar Bishopric in the area called the Razes and the County of Toulouse being saturated with the Cathar faithful, wouldn't a better question be "where is the evidence Cathars were not in Rennes le Chateau"?
It seems to me that with all of the early gnostic influence in the area, the Marcosians being active in Southern Gaul in the early 2nd century, and then we have Hilary of Poitiers writing the Manichaeans faith being a significant force in the same area in the 4th century, that perhaps the Cathar faith was homegrown in the Languedoc (as the authors of HGHB had said). Then with the Bogomil influence evolved into what we now call Catharism.
During the early Cathar/ Catholic debates the heresy was called Manichaeanism until about 1167. The target of Bernard of Clairvaux's preaching in the Languedoc in 1145 were the teachings of Benedictine Monk, Henry of Lausanne, which were not specificly noted as being a form of Catharism.

A simple "no evidence whatsoever" would have sufficed.

I thought I was answering two questions rain, with MHO of course.
Roscoe had also ask where you thought the Cathars had originated.

While I've got you here being a slippery customer - I've got 2 questions for you - who are you and why did track Hotspur's location?

One could make a convincing argument for that, yes.



False. There was a temple to Venus on the island at one time, but not Isis.

TCP

Arles was a Roman town, built by and for Roman citizens. Not terribly surprising that they erected temples to their own gods there. And, for the record, the "Isis" that the Romans co-opted from the Greeks was sanitized and Hellenized, bearing little to no resemblance to the ancient Egyptian goddess.



It could also be attributed to the fact that there were no gypsies venerating her in SS. Maries-de-la-Mer prior to 1800.



False, Sarah was never canonized by the Church in the first place. She's a product of local folklore.



And yet her family name was Negre d'Ables. How do you account for that discrepancy?



OK, now we know "why" but it still makes no sense.



Bulgaria? Just for fun, try calling a Bulgar "Romanian" to their face and see how long you remain standing. Then do it in reverse and see if your experience is different.

TCP

In Bill's world it is perfectly acceptable to draw conclusions based on an evidential void. You'll never get him to see the flaw in that sort of reasoning, as he'd otherwise have nothing to write about.

TCP