Arcadia Discussion Zone

It is one.

ouch ! ...are you speaking from experience ?

Not forgetting Athene, Arachne, Penelope and Ariadne.

Do French electric fences run at a higher voltage than ones in the UK, because I had a very bad experience with one once, it literally pushed me off my feet (I was only eleven at the time, pole fishing a pond on a farm with my French pen pal, so quite light through the air I guess, but it gave me a hell of a shock; we used to grab hold of stock fences like that in England as a dare, because the charge was so puny, so I tried the same trick in front of my French friends, with very painful consequences ).

Seems like an odd place for an electric fence (or maybe not, don't know what's grazing up there, or where it is, etc.), and an odd place for a calvaire, not being beside a road or even, by the looks of it, trackway, but I guess that's the point.

it's probably more to keep two footed stock away from the stone rather than the four footed variety who would only want to scratch themselves on it's edges.

220-240 volts in UK and France, normally if the fence is out in the middle of nowhere it would be attached to a battery powered unit or a solar panel...if near a building it would be run off the mains.
Obviously there is a "volume" control on the unit (from zero to 12) that goes from just a tingle to an OUCH! and to a full on fling you to the ground writhing in agony depending on how much of a jolt you want to give the beasts in question...as for your experience Richard you have to take all that into consideration plus what were you wearing on your feet at the time, where you barefoot or in sandals ( if so, no wonder it hurt) and whether or not the ground was wet or the air damp etc.

Nothing is ever simple is it....mind you you could get a job on the buses as you seem to be a good conductor.

If i encounter an electric fence i keep a healthy distance or let the long suffering husband go first

Quite an interesting thing are the caves / caverns in the region with a double entrance as shown in the pic below. This is the one in Campagne-les-Bains.



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Similar ones can be found in the region - nearby a link to an interesting article dealing with it. Good question is the one pointing at the Grotto in the RLC church garden, where today we only see "half" of what once apparently existed.

http://rlcpiedevigne.onlc.fr/101-Les-ca ... ntree.html

I'm staying in Campagne sur Aude for my second week of visit in June, so close to Campagne les Bains. Hopefully get a chance to check it out

Two entrances, two caverns. Nearby the one of the source at Campagne-les-Bains. On top of this cavern once stood a chapel (still can be located on the IGN map), today it is a camping ground with a dirty swimming pool...



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Keep em coming. We need some intellect on here.

If you watch the Lost Treasure of Jerusalem you'll see that the grotto at RLC has changed dramatically since 1978.


Campagne sur Aude
Church not laid out east-west


Tour d'Alchemie to Campagne sur Aude Church

3 Miles or 1 League

AGAIN

Not only that but if you stand in the Tour d'Alchemie and look towards Campagne sur Aude you will be looking down this line



i.e. The Beltane/Samhain line.

In the distance Soularac (Solar Rock in Occitan)

The League is named after the Celtic Sun God Lugh.


The church at Campagne sur Aude is orientated to this line.

Good track, Roscoe.

The calvaire in front of the church in Campagne sur Aude.



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....to be compared with:



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(photo source: BRUNELIN)

Whilst in C-s-A Davinho see if you can find the Templar museum. We visited it in 2002, quite an interesting museum, but we couldn't find it last summer. We were informed in the cafe that it still exists but you had to make a phone appointment to make a visit.

It is known that these crosses are quite recent ones. Nevertheless I am surprised to find them at "not uninteresting places" and also that they are carefully carved into the stone.

The one below can be found near Las Breiches.



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Davinho saw the star halfway up Bugarach
http://youtu.be/tDEdQrG958M
His great video its at 52 secs


and now it is at Las Breiches

FMH any thoughts on who are making them

It reflects the druid solar wheel


Thanks FMH for the wonderful pictures

It reflects an octagram. And a wheel as you say. A wheel with 8 spokes. La cité des chariots.

I am not sure that the producer (I think the guy is quite known in the "scene" but personally I do not know who he is) is aware of the importance of the sign he is using.

Anyway, just down that hill, a huge rock can be seen where during summer some teenagers are camping.



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Same person who has destroyed numerous other artifacts in the area like le diable at RLC

Regards
Nic

this is a problem with the area. It is very difficult and an expensive process establishing when a carving was made. There are many carved rocks around the area and I doubt many of them have been dated accurately. The stars carved in various places - Devils Armchair, Bugarach, Cardou, Blanchefort, Montsegur would seem to have been done recently but this comes only from anecdotal evidence. Similarly the face and 2 dragonflies I found carved on rocks near Source de la Madeleine would also seem recent but again this is only opinion.
It seems to be usual for people to dismiss the star carved on the Armchair as recent yet the Ankh and other small symbols on the front as ancient but show me the evidence to support this. I bet there isn't any

I think it would be useful to find out if there is any mention of the carvings in local archeological reports pre HBHG myself. One tends to find the same thing in Glastonbury; many of the Tor burrs have carvings, but i doubt if there were many pre John Michell's 'View over Atlantis'.

but we couldn't find it last summer

Hi Pilrig,

Its still there.

At the back of the cafe.

Here is their website: http://www.tresorcathare.org/

They are also carrying out excavations of the old templar fort at the moment.

On the left (the empty space) the gravesite Plantard purchased for himself. To be among the Fleury family, the Boudet family and Jean Vie.



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Interesting stone with some "links" to "our" story:



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can you explain FMH ...I see freemason symbols of the compass on the stone

Losange, reversed N`s, 4 as in RLB, etc. - same symbolic language as Boudet used.

Another nice stone from Béziers:



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Raymond-Roger Trencavel
+ : S: COMUNE : CIVIUM: BITERRENSIUM :
Source : Hôtel de ville de Béziers



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Interesting link:

http://www.earlyblazon.com/earlyblazon/ ... #trencavel

Just found this reply . Thanks Sandy. They must have moved cos if my memory aint playing tricks the museum in 2002 was upstairs in one of the alleys. We enjoyed une grand cafe in the ...cafe when we went to C-s-A in 2011, but when we enquired (badly via pidgin French) aboutthe museum they said we'd have to phone to make a visit. Ah well.