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I got the difference between the Vincentians and the Knights of the OSLJ
TCP do you have a link saying that the group Plantard was fighting was the OSLJ? I just heard Plantard say the Priory in America. It is a interesting thought

I was just quoting the information when you walk in the chapel
they just call it the Lazarist Chapel ....and this chapel is at the Ursuline Convent at New Orleans
I was just pointing out the beautiful raising of Lazarist
I have never seen anything like it....the sepulchre that Jesus goes in has stairs deep into the tomb where Lazarus is placed
It reminds me a bit of Egyptian tombs and there is mostly women around Jesus and coming down the stairs
Mary of Bethany or Magdalene and Martha are there at Jesus side

the resurrection of Lazarus in John 11, in which it is mentioned twice that Lazarus has been dead for four days by the time that Jesus arrives (vv. 17, 39). The significance of this detail might be explained by a tradition that the soul of a dead person stays near the body for three days, until the corpse bursts and becomes unrecognizable. In reference to this tradition, Evans cited a passage from the midrashic literature: "For three days the soul hovers over the body, intending to re-enter it, but as soon as it sees its appearance change, it departs"(Leviticus Rabbah 18.1). In light of this tradition, the resurrection of Lazarus four days after his death would have been seen as especially remarkable.
No Vincentians here but Lazarists Dubourg did live here when he was Bishop
lots of mysterious legends go along with this convent

A link? As though this is common knowledge? Of course not!

TCP

Ok that is what I thought
its your belief there is a connection

and I can see how you can go there

Just checking
TCP are there other Lazarist chapels like the one in New Orleans? Would you say this location is special?
It is interconnected with the convent

It is a bit spooky by the way
the upstairs of the house is forbidden to tourists and the FBI

It helps to know who the individuals were that Plantard was referring to.



If you're asking if the OSLJ maintains other chapels in New Orleans I'd say the likelihood is that they do not. If you're asking about the Vincentians or the Ursulines, I have no idea.

TCP

Roscoe the Holly King and Oak King was observed by the Acadians

before the New Orleans Saint Louis Cathedral is a garden
with two gods one is Bachus Dionysius the Holly King and Zeus his father the Oak king
In the garden is a oak tree and next to it a Holly tree


there is a god or goddess in each corner East West North and south
by each one a Holly and Oak tree
a Sacred Grove



on Andrew Jackson's monument
it says we must preserveth the Union

that is interesting since we now have the European Union
Are you familiar with Washington's dream about the Union?

For sure.

But then how long do you want to run?

I found a interesting Saint Anthony of Padua
wearing the Black triangle
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63505132@N00/4621087463/in/photostream/lightbox/




it does look like the dollar sign Renne

It is interesting that there are Crista-like designs on the walls of Limoux.

That is where I thought they`d hide such an important artifact.

"One with three figures dates from the 15th century. The one of the holy trinity highlights the absurdity of no female presence. One has three figures named as Saints Sergius, Bacchus and Justine which confuses me at first as the middle one clearly seems to be a woman and then I realise that she must be Justine. One again [as with St. George] there is the motif of having conquered something that's being trampled underfoot but at least she isn't actively killing it and it's good to see a woman's presence, which is rare, apart from Madonna icons. But there is actually another woman in one of the icons and it's the same one as I saw in the icon museum at Dubrovnik – Jesus and Mary Magdalene, both of them with haloes. Saint Spiridion looks a little stern. Saint Anthony, the hermit, has various scenes from his life included in his icon, surrounding him. St Dimitri is my favourite."



"Saints Sergio, Bacchus, and Justine." This looks like a female St. Michael to me.

The palm in the hand is a giveaway for Justina of Padua and the beast is a cerberus.

A stained glass window at Mt Bugarach Church
from an article by Val Vinyard
http://www.ufodigest.com/article/bugarach-mystic-mountain

of a wheel in the sky and a boat on the sea

Seven seals

Jules Verne called Father of Science Fiction ...visited the church
He wrote Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea
Around the World in Eighty Days
A Journey to the Center of the Earth
From the Earth to the Moon

All voyages
Jules Verne had some uncanny visions in his book
one was expressed by Neil Armstrong
During their return journey from the moon, the crew of Apollo 11 made reference to Jules Verne's book during a TV broadcast on July 23.[4] The mission's commander, astronaut Neil Armstrong, said, "A hundred years ago, Jules Verne wrote a book about a voyage to the Moon. His spaceship, Columbia [sic], took off from Florida and landed in the Pacific Ocean after completing a trip to the Moon. It seems appropriate to us to share with you some of the reflections of the crew as the modern-day Columbia completes its rendezvous with the planet Earth and the same Pacific Ocean tomorrow."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_Earth_to_the_Moon

One can say a possible symbolic picture of the wheel is a flying saucer in the stained glass window over the boat
Man navigates the seas and the sky now days

Ezechial talks about wheels in the sky...Ezechial has a connection to the Revelations and the Seven Seals
The wheels had also a size, and a height, and a dreadful appearance: and the whole body was full of eyes round about all the four. And, when the living creatures went, the wheels also went together by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels also were lifted up with them.

Not to mention the fact that her waistline wouldn't work too well on a guy. But hey, it's the bizarre world of alternative history, right?

TCP

http://julesvernect.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Around-the-World-in-Eighty-Days00.jpg
stained glass window at Bugarach

on January 17 1773 Cook ships the Resolution and Adventure were the first ships to enter the Antarctic Circle

I, Captain Nemo, on the 21st March, 1868, have reached the South Pole on the 90th degree, and I take possession of this part of the globe, equal to the sixth part of known continents.'
 'In whose name, captain?'
 In my own, sir.'
 So saying, Captain Nemo unfurled a black flag, bearing an N in gold, quartered on its bunting. Then, turning towards the sun, whose last rays were lapping the horizon of the sea, he exclaimed, -
 'Adieu, sun! Disappear, thou radiant star! Rest beneath this free sea, and let a six months' night spread its darkness over my new domain!'

I like to think of it as reassurance that I'm working on the correct jigsaw puzzle

That's an excellent way of looking at it.

TCP

St. Justina of Padua.

Thomas Wright of Durham rebuilt Shugborough in 1748 who added the library
Wright talked about
the Eye of Providence is in the center of the Universe

when you look at the dollar bill
Eye of Providence is usually associated with Freemasonry.



http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?bibcode=1941Obs....64...71P&db_key=AST&page_ind=3&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_VIEW&classic=YES



Wright was one of the first to explain the Milky Way
he believed in reincarnation

Actual proof of the Milky Way consisting of many stars came in 1610 when Galileo Galilei used a telescope to study the Milky Way and discovered that it was composed of a huge number of faint stars.[96] In a treatise in 1755, Immanuel Kant, drawing on earlier work by Thomas Wright, speculated (correctly) that the Milky Way might be a rotating body of a huge number of stars, held together by gravitational forces akin to the Solar System but on much larger scales. The resulting disk of stars would be seen as a band on the sky from our perspective inside the disk. Kant also conjectured that some of the nebulae visible in the night sky might be separate "galaxies" themselves, similar to our own. Kant referred to both our galaxy and the "extragalactic nebulae" as "island universes", a term still current up to the 1930s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way


One of the Merovingian church hangouts Aachen

Divine Eye of Providence

and Sauniere's triangle in gold

The Great Architect of the Universe

Shugborough has a gold triangle too
http://www.flickr.com/photos/damiavos/6206734211/in/photostream/
a golden Egyptian obelisk with a rose marble base
Every family should have one of these in their salons

The Eye of Horus one of the Egyptian gods

Definetly "The Magdalene", and it is always rendered this way, not a place but a title, not from Magdala but from Bethany.

The earthly Jesus, born in Bethleham was no more evil than any of them prior to the Consolamentum. All flesh was evil to the Cathars.

Yet any mention of the Cathar belief that this Jesus was an evil, false deceiver in the same source is completely ignored. Does anyone really think that the Cathars would venerate a deceiver and his female companion? Or that their principal sacrament, the Consolamentum, would require the candidates to dissolve their own marriages if they really held marriage to be sacred?

One can never know what the Cathars *really* believed - as we don't have their teachings first hand.

Why would we use the Inquisition reports to decide what the Cathar policy/belief was on anything?

Ca, c'est archi-faux. En plus, les temoignages contemporains laiques abondent. Il suffit de chercher un tout petit peu.

wow, n'etaient pas en quelque sorte d'accord sommes-nous, Roger?

Roger,

Please speak to me in English, as i am English.

Also, we do not have the Cathar religion written down by them in the same way we have the Catholic religion.

Secular reports still do not constitute Cathar information from their own hand.

He's too lazy to put subtitles

You are so right
most of the Cathar information was destroyed