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PostPosted: 11 Feb 2012 12:44 pm 
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Simmans, Graham 1919-2005 (...) During his life Simmans traveled around the world, working with security and intelligence agencies. During World War II he served with the British Royal Air Force as …

Well ... just one thing. When I met Graham in RLC in Ocober 1993 we had quite a long chat. And right there he told me that he's worked for MI5, that he has been into 66 egyptian pyramids, and the like. Now, if I would be a british man and would have worked for MI5 (or MI6 or whatever) I would not tell it to a long haired stranger from Hitler country whom I just met an hour ago. :wink:

My guess: he was working as a clerk for MI5.


Well he wasn't telling fibs then ! :lol: Graham Simmans as George Smiley ? hmmm.... 'The mole' - double entendre ?....hmmm (twice over). I remember from Henry Lincoln's guided tour of RLC last summer Henry told us about a Brit who tunnelled throughout the village, he didn't name the person but described him as a 'maniac'.


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‘Michael’ also supposedly broke his sworn oath of secrecy ‘may his heart be torn out or may his throat be cut’ by spilling the beans about the so-called Rex Deus to Hopkins, Simmans, and Wallace-Murphy, yet couldn’t get back his supposedly priceless genealogies because he was ‘bound by his oath of secrecy’. :roll:

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This 'Michael' guy's a Mason ! These penalties are of the Fellowcraft and Entered Apprentice degrees ! But I'm wondering about the identity of this 'Michael' (I've got the book but haven't read it yet). If I mind rightly there was a speaker at the Sauniere Society called Michael somebody or other, his surname eludes me just now, an author of far-fetched, esoteric books. He died in the late 90's...mebbe 'Michael' aint him, I'm just speculating.


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 Post subject: Re: Sauniere's Spell Book
PostPosted: 11 Feb 2012 4:59 pm 
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‘When his father first broached the subject of Rex Deus, Michael was in his mid-teens and was therefore capable of understanding the broader terms of the story he was to hear and, more importantly, was of an age when an oath of secrecy would have some meaning. After taking the oath he heard, for the very first time, the story that [Hopkins, Simmans, and Wallace-Murphy] are now about to tell. He was informed that appropriate documentation in the form of family genealogies was hidden in a secret drawer in an old family bureau and that after his father’s death it would be Michael’s sacred duty to keep the genealogies up to date and to pass on the secret to the most suitable of his children. He was also to prepare himself and his chosen child to act in collaboration with other members of the Rex Deus families when asked to do so. His obedience to their requests was to be total and unquestioning. All this under an oath of secrecy, within which the penalty for transgression would be death. This was an enormous burden to lay on the shoulders of one so young. Sadly, Michael’s father died suddenly some years later and by the time he returned to the family home he found that the bureau and all it contained had been appropriated by a brother. Bound by his oath of secrecy, he could never explain why he wanted it back and, despite his best efforts, he has not seen that piece of furniture nor its contents from that day to this and he has reason to believe that his brother sold the bureau, an antique of some value, blissfully unaware of its contents’



Is it just me, or does this tale told by ‘Michael’ about the ‘lost genealogies’ seem utterly preposterous? This supposed descendent of Jesus Christ couldn’t think of anyway at all to get back ‘priceless genealogies’ that ‘proved’ this incredible bloodline, and instead let his ‘brother’ sell the cabinet in which the ‘genealogies’ were ‘hidden’.



No, not just you.
It is a sequence that doesn't fit with the picture. When I read that part about 10 years ago it caused me a laugh. First of all I wouldn't believe what I've just been reading. :evil: :evil: :roll:

IIRC TCP knows alot about "Prince Michael". AFAIK the "Prince" vanished ...


"Will he no' come back again ? " :lol:

But was this 'Michael' Monsieur Lafosse ? It seems so. But I've been going to the Sauniere Society symposiums in Scotland since the mid 90s and can't recall them being graced by 'HRH'. Mind you, he's a wee guy and can be easily hidden or obscured :lol: . But I remember at Gullane Tim Wallace-Murphy and Marilyn Hopkins gave a talk aboot Rosslyn Chapel.


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 Post subject: Re: Sauniere's Spell Book
PostPosted: 11 Feb 2012 5:57 pm 
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Pilrig wrote:
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‘Michael’ also supposedly broke his sworn oath of secrecy ‘may his heart be torn out or may his throat be cut’ by spilling the beans about the so-called Rex Deus to Hopkins, Simmans, and Wallace-Murphy, yet couldn’t get back his supposedly priceless genealogies because he was ‘bound by his oath of secrecy’. :roll:

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Spartacus

This 'Michael' guy's a Mason ! These penalties are of the Fellowcraft and Entered Apprentice degrees ! But I'm wondering about the identity of this 'Michael' (I've got the book but haven't read it yet). If I mind rightly there was a speaker at the Sauniere Society called Michael somebody or other, his surname eludes me just now, an author of far-fetched, esoteric books. He died in the late 90's...mebbe 'Michael' aint him, I'm just speculating.


Michael Ingram - that's the Michael 'somebody or other'. Doubt that he was the 'Rex Deus' source somehow.


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 Post subject: Re: Sauniere's Spell Book
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Pilrig wrote:
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‘Michael’ also supposedly broke his sworn oath of secrecy ‘may his heart be torn out or may his throat be cut’ by spilling the beans about the so-called Rex Deus to Hopkins, Simmans, and Wallace-Murphy, yet couldn’t get back his supposedly priceless genealogies because he was ‘bound by his oath of secrecy’. :roll:

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This 'Michael' guy's a Mason ! These penalties are of the Fellowcraft and Entered Apprentice degrees ! But I'm wondering about the identity of this 'Michael' (I've got the book but haven't read it yet). If I mind rightly there was a speaker at the Sauniere Society called Michael somebody or other, his surname eludes me just now, an author of far-fetched, esoteric books. He died in the late 90's...mebbe 'Michael' aint him, I'm just speculating.


Michael Ingram - that's the Michael 'somebody or other'. Doubt that he was the 'Rex Deus' source somehow.


TCP basically told you it was Lafosse reread his initial post.

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 Post subject: Re: Sauniere's Spell Book
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Eginolf wrote:
IIRC TCP knows alot about "Prince Michael". AFAIK the "Prince" vanished ...


He was stripped of his British passport and went running back to his mummy in Belgium. He's "vanished", but he's not out of the picture completely. He lost all of his sane supporters, people who were taken in by the false genealogies and stood by him in the wake of decades of criticism. His circle is much diminished now, and pretty much devoid of rational people. But he's not gone, he's only gone underground.

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 Post subject: Re: Sauniere's Spell Book
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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
‘When his father first broached the subject of Rex Deus, Michael was in his mid-teens and was therefore capable of understanding the broader terms of the story he was to hear and, more importantly, was of an age when an oath of secrecy would have some meaning. After taking the oath he heard, for the very first time, the story that [Hopkins, Simmans, and Wallace-Murphy] are now about to tell. He was informed that appropriate documentation in the form of family genealogies was hidden in a secret drawer in an old family bureau and that after his father’s death it would be Michael’s sacred duty to keep the genealogies up to date and to pass on the secret to the most suitable of his children. He was also to prepare himself and his chosen child to act in collaboration with other members of the Rex Deus families when asked to do so. His obedience to their requests was to be total and unquestioning. All this under an oath of secrecy, within which the penalty for transgression would be death. This was an enormous burden to lay on the shoulders of one so young. Sadly, Michael’s father died suddenly some years later and by the time he returned to the family home he found that the bureau and all it contained had been appropriated by a brother. Bound by his oath of secrecy, he could never explain why he wanted it back and, despite his best efforts, he has not seen that piece of furniture nor its contents from that day to this and he has reason to believe that his brother sold the bureau, an antique of some value, blissfully unaware of its contents’


This dovetails quite nicely with Lafosse's public account of his own background.

Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
Is it just me, or does this tale told by ‘Michael’ about the ‘lost genealogies’ seem utterly preposterous?


Anyone having a look at Laurence Gardner's Bloodline of the Holy Grail might find the assertion preposterous that these "lost genealogies" were ever truly lost. By the time Rex Deus was published, however, Gardner's work had been thoroughly discredited. I guess you can't blame them for running it up the flagpole a second time, as though a second source might add luster to the tarnished credibility of the first.

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 Post subject: Re: Sauniere's Spell Book
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http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/fantasy.htm


And this one:

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~seanjmurphy/chiefs/lafosse.htm

I love Murphy's exposure of the MacCarthy Mór hoax as well, which caused a lot more collateral damage and was, in fact, hatched at the headquarters of the now-defunct Heraldry Society of Ireland, located at Castle Matrix, Rathkeale, Ireland...

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Pilrig wrote:
"Will he no' come back again ? " :lol:


Better lo'ed he canna be...

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But was this 'Michael' Monsieur Lafosse ? It seems so. But I've been going to the Sauniere Society symposiums in Scotland since the mid 90s and can't recall them being graced by 'HRH'. Mind you, he's a wee guy and can be easily hidden or obscured :lol: . But I remember at Gullane Tim Wallace-Murphy and Marilyn Hopkins gave a talk aboot Rosslyn Chapel.


Did they say he attended, or spoke? Or just that they happened to meet him "after"...?

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 Post subject: Re: Sauniere's Spell Book
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Unfortunately Bloodline of the Holy Grail was the second book I ever read relating to this genre. It's a good job people here ( thanks Tim ) put me straight about the facts years ago, although it reads a bit fishy anyway.
There are lots of quotes about "the mole" in Rat Scabies and the Holy Grail. I would have liked to meet Graham Simmans, I reckon he would have had some good stories even if he never found anything with all his tunnelling.
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TCP wrote:
tingra wrote:
http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/fantasy.htm


And this one:

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~seanjmurphy/chiefs/lafosse.htm

I love Murphy's exposure of the MacCarthy Mór hoax as well, which caused a lot more collateral damage and was, in fact, hatched at the headquarters of the now-defunct Heraldry Society of Ireland, located at Castle Matrix, Rathkeale, Ireland...

TCP


Damn it, 'HRH's "Lost Monarchy" book will still have a place in my wee library ! :lol:

The Murphy exposure was quite fascinating, especially the report on Michel by Jack S MacDonald in 1980. Hadn't heard of this one before. Re the three members of the Scottish Patriots who commissioned the report two of them were well known, the late Wendy Wood and the late Nigel Tranter. Perhaps some of you haven't heard of the other, A.J Stewart, she is an author who regards herself as the reincarnation of James IV, King of Scots who was killed at the Battle of Flodden in 1513.


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TCP wrote:
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"Will he no' come back again ? " :lol:


Better lo'ed he canna be...

Pilrig wrote:
But was this 'Michael' Monsieur Lafosse ? It seems so. But I've been going to the Sauniere Society symposiums in Scotland since the mid 90s and can't recall them being graced by 'HRH'. Mind you, he's a wee guy and can be easily hidden or obscured :lol: . But I remember at Gullane Tim Wallace-Murphy and Marilyn Hopkins gave a talk aboot Rosslyn Chapel.


Did they say he attended, or spoke? Or just that they happened to meet him "after"...?

TCP



Dunno, but I can't remember him attending "the Sauniere's ". But he may have done, as we know he's a wee fella and can be overlooked :lol:


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Anyone having a look at Laurence Gardner's Bloodline of the Holy Grail might find the assertion preposterous that these "lost genealogies" were ever truly lost. By the time Rex Deus was published, however, Gardner's work had been thoroughly discredited. I guess you can't blame them for running it up the flagpole a second time, as though a second source might add luster to the tarnished credibility of the first.

TCP



Tim,

Was Gardner in on the game or was he duped?

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He was stripped of his British passport and went running back to his mummy in Belgium. He's "vanished", but he's not out of the picture completely. He lost all of his sane supporters, people who were taken in by the false genealogies and stood by him in the wake of decades of criticism. His circle is much diminished now, and pretty much devoid of rational people. But he's not gone, he's only gone underground.

There should be a government bureau that watches such "false priests" over the years to see how many hypnotized followers they've got. Before they can do severe damage like f.i. Reverend Jim Jones did ...


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Eginolf wrote:
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He was stripped of his British passport and went running back to his mummy in Belgium. He's "vanished", but he's not out of the picture completely. He lost all of his sane supporters, people who were taken in by the false genealogies and stood by him in the wake of decades of criticism. His circle is much diminished now, and pretty much devoid of rational people. But he's not gone, he's only gone underground.

There should be a government bureau that watches such "false priests" over the years to see how many hypnotized followers they've got. Before they can do severe damage like f.i. Reverend Jim Jones did ...


There probably is a government bureau. But careful with this idea, you're going down the road towards state-approved religions/cults/fads and so on.


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Pilrig wrote:
There probably is a government bureau. But careful with this idea, you're going down the road towards state-approved religions/cults/fads and so on.


I know what you mean fancy having a country that is legitimately ruled by a Monarch that is also the head of a Church, what kind of state approval do you need for that I wonder?

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There probably is a government bureau. But careful with this idea, you're going down the road towards state-approved religions/cults/fads and so on.


I know what you mean fancy having a country that is legitimately ruled by a Monarch that is also the head of a Church, what kind of state approval do you need for that I wonder?

And Catholics need not apply.

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Pilrig wrote:
rain wrote:
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There probably is a government bureau. But careful with this idea, you're going down the road towards state-approved religions/cults/fads and so on.


I know what you mean fancy having a country that is legitimately ruled by a Monarch that is also the head of a Church, what kind of state approval do you need for that I wonder?


And Catholics need not apply.

Vive la 1789 !


I think it's la Loi Salique. les Lois Françaises Fondamentales.

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Hi Everyone, I'm new here but not to RLC where I have quietly spent some time both above and under ground. I'm surprised there is not better info on the Tiwas available. I have seen the photo replica of the real one found by Simmans and I can confirm that the one pictured on other peoples websites is not even vaguely related. Though it my have been a fraud that was inspired by it???

The real Tiwas given its content and being found in Villa Bethania in association with the works by Sauniere in the church is a strong clue to what the Gnostics and Templars of the area had guardianship over, until that passed to current custodians. Not sure why the connections haven't been soldered in this thread. Perhaps as the important document is not being comprehended as genuine.

A possible ploy to protect holders from extreme persecution by people who'd desire to have or destroy the document and it's accompaniments. Oneday soon they need to be used to resolve the Middle East tensions, Christian infidels need to realise they are and that the whole point has been missed!

Salient points to my mind are the history of Septimania, a jewish 'state', and the clear reference by Sauniere in church works to a more Jewish and gnostic (a la Eastern flavour and Nag Hammadi inspired) rather than Catholic perception of history being held by the man.

This said I'm well aware that Catholic Priests are required to publicly hold one view of history that utterly contradicts the documents they can freely access once ordained at the Vatican. A friend left the Priesthood upon finding out after a good wasted decade that he was being required to present to people only what they could understand despite that it was untrue.

The Tiwas though only dating back less than 1000 years is clearly derivative from earlier texts. Its tonal chants honor or as the case may be appease all of the guardian forces or some say 'demons' responsible for protecting the holy of holies in the Temple of Solomon - and obviously therefore its contents. Such magick was originally from Misr I believe.

The bible plagiarised and added fables about some of these so called demons (although Kabbalah unravel the surface myths) so their names are also found there. IMO they are really just energy manifestations that men of science could utilise for security detail both in a physics sense and by stirring fear of fear itself in the uneducated.

Of course if we believe that Asmodeus by the door is a representation of Asmodeus then it is clear that Sauniere was celebrating his find or endowment of the Tiwas by spending loot on a sculpture in the Church - with the message of a person liberated from blind dogma of "who's afraid of the big bad demon".

What would accompany the Tiwas that grants control over the demons of the Temple of Solomon, that is the question. Mr Simmans was adamant that would be the relics of the Christ priest of Sophia whom we today call Jesus but I declined to enter all of his tunnels to see his proof fearing they were not exactly safe so I could not say.

Having been with him on digs in Egypt 30 odd years ago and then closely followed this dogged seekers journey in archaeological and other related research (he was nothing if not thorough which is probably why he did well with spying) I myself am of the opinion that something or other from Solomon's Temple is located in the vicinity of RLC.

However I agree with Simmans main legacy, the thought that the true treasure of Rennes is the eventual conclusion that many 'grail' researchers will likely be drawn to that current Christianity is a fraud... and the real McCoy as practised by John, Joseph, Jesus and the Priestess Magdalene is a far more potent brew of eclectic Judaism, its roots hearking back to Ancient Egypt - that land being where Jesus was sent for his spiritual education imo.

Influencing my view, if anyone is interested in where I am coming from is that everything I've hit on and accepted versus rejected is quite compatible with the belief system that I was raised with - Rosicrucian.

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rain wrote:
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(With Mary Hopkins, Tim Wallace-Murphy, and Marilyn Hopkins) Rex Deus: The True Mystery of Rennes-le-Château, Element Books, 2000.

Jesus after the Crucifixion: From Jerusalem to Rennes-le-Château, Bear (Rochester, VT), 2007.

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Damn it, now I have to re-read the book. I liked it BUT I don't for one second think Simmans wasn't playing along.

I checked out the website noticed the Bourbonite. What happened to fairytale princes on White horses?


Yes he was playing along and did not believe half what the Editors insisted on incorporating to the bloodline book - that was not his thing but more the other authors ideas, the second book though was his baby and contains original important research. Very dry and long winded so can be a bore which risks losing its audience mid book, but it has more substantial content and is a better contribution to the field imo.

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Ingrid Simmans showed exactly the "spell book" Ben postet at website-its not everything a fake Ben did:-)
She told me that this "spell book" is the one Graham? found in the Villa Bethany!


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Looks not a jot like the copies of one they showed me.
Different size and script and materials. I struggle to believe this new version is even a copy of the original parchment photographed and shown to me - what need would Sauniere or anyone more recent have for a crappy looking copy if they have the original or good laser copies of it? Maybe they are just being protective of it so put a decoy out, though I can't see either Ingrid or the late husband being so tricky.
The photo replica (a life sized high grade laser copy of all pages in laminate) showed large pages full of dark script and colour symbols, it was wordier than the one on the web, which is why I don't think they can have the same content. The original I was told of long ago and shown the replica and translation from the Muslim scholar about a decade ago. I had never heard of that other one at all, not until finding a reference on this thread, so this is very strange.

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Looks not a jot like the copies of one they showed me.
Different size and script and materials. I struggle to believe this new version is even a copy of the original parchment photographed and shown to me - what need would Sauniere or anyone more recent have for a crappy looking copy if they have the original or good laser copies of it? Maybe they are just being protective of it so put a decoy out, though I can't see either Ingrid or the late husband being so tricky.
The photo replica (a life sized high grade laser copy of all pages in laminate) showed large pages full of dark script and colour symbols, it was wordier than the one on the web, which is why I don't think they can have the same content. The original I was told of long ago and shown the replica and translation from the Muslim scholar about a decade ago. I had never heard of that other one at all, not until finding a reference on this thread, so this is very strange.


So Sonar do you believe Sauniere was using this Spell book? and it is not the one Ben shows
Being raised as Roisicrucian
Do you think Sauniere was aware of the Roisicrucian way?

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Perhaps Sauniere had 2 books, you can never be too careful. What of the

Girona connection, Sonar? It is said that Sauniere belonged to a Rosicrucian

private society that inclued members from both Rennes le Chateau and Girona,

Spain - ("City of Secrets" by Patrice Chaplin). This society still exists.

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