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PostPosted: 25 Jan 2012 10:35 am 
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OH WELL DONE ROSCOE

So why the TRANSFIGURATION ?

You have steadfastly refused to look at it.

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OH WELL DONE ROSCOE

So why the TRANSFIGURATION ?

You have steadfastly refused to look at it.


6th August also happens to be the Feast of Diana

Known as the White Goddess

As well as Lughnasagh

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Sheila wrote:
This theory has been done to death for the last decade or so...it doesn't get you anywhere boys.



Fête de la Transfiguration...it links the past - the present - and the future...all in a moment of eternity.

"Oh death, where is thy sting? Oh grave, where is thy victory?the message being, that we awaken in the moment we die.



"You will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there’ ........ and it will move, and nothing will be impossible for you".


Sheila - a question

Who gave us?

BERGERE PAS DE TENTATION QUE POUSSIN TENIERS GARDENT LA CLEF PAX DCLXXXI PAR LA CROIX ET CE CHEVAL DE DIEU J ACHEVE CE DAEMON DE GARDIEN A MIDI POMMES BLEUES

The origin of this is your starting point.

Here's a clue

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But speaking of 1681

The Summer Solstice (culminating in the Feast of John the Baptist) is interesting that year.

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yes, i know that already thanks, Chérisey created the parchement using a specific passage from the codex Bezae.


Yeh!

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"My dear Roseline, who died on 6 August 1967, the Feast of the Transfiguration, while leaving the Zero Meridian by car." (p. 108).
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This theory has been done to death for the last decade or so...it doesn't get you anywhere boys.


Was roscoe's finding of PAX = 681 in Greek gematria old news? I think it is interesting.


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On the bottom of the page called Le Meridian Zero

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You can find this whilst leaving Le Cromlech de Rennes les Bains by car.

XVI. MALMSEY WINE

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Julliard have recently published a book by Gérard de Sède about a treasure hunt in the communes of Rennes-le-Château and Rennes-les-Bains (in the Aude). A parish priest, Abbé Saunière, is alleged have led a billionaire lifestyle but to have died penniless in 1917. As the French Zero Meridian passes exactly through the territory of Rennes-les-Bains, this story cannot be dismissed out of hand, even if we must agree with the Bishop of Carcassonne that the likeliest explanation for Abbé Saunière's huge income is that he trafficked in masses through the medium of a children's magazine called "La Semaine de Lisette" ("Lisette's Weekly"), or are willing to concede that he defrauded the Red Cross during the First World War or that he worked as a pander.

General David Leroy, who I met in Las Palmas, was very interested in the work of Gérard de Sède because, as a boy of ten, he'd spent a couple of months on holiday down at Saunière's. One detail in particular had stuck in his mind: although Saunière lived in the Corbières, a wine-growing region par excellence, he never drank anything other than Malmsey, which he ordered specially from the Canary Islands. Since the Zero Meridian passed through the Canary Islands before Louis XIV moved it to Paris, General Leroy wondered whether Saunière's fabulous fortune - instead of originating in his own part of the world, as today's treasure hunters believe - was not more likely to be found in the wells of Termigiragne on Ferro [the smallest and most westerly of the Canaries], which nestles up against the original Zero Meridian. This would certainly explain the many trips abroad that Saunière made without telling anyone where he was going.

I discouraged the General from pursuing this reverie and instead encouraged him to take an interest in the Malmsey wine aspect. In a subsequent letter he told me about a strange connection: apparently the vines grown in Corbières are actually derived from Malmsey vines, so Saunière was not in fact being disloyal to his native Languedoc by importing his wine from the Canaries but, on the contrary, could claim that he was simply going back to its origins. But the General's theory is just a little too convenient not to arouse my suspicions: the General's financial problems and the boredom he endured during his retirement were, I think, the real factors that made him want to start searching for buried treasure in the Canary Islands.


An extract from de Cherisey's LE MERIDIAN ZERO

Are we seeing a pattern here Sheila?

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 Post subject: Re: PAX 681
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Why did PdC write this admission in English unless it was specifically meant for the HBHG crowd? Also the handwriting of the word Bergere looks extremely familiar, can't remember from what document/parchment etc. I'll do some comparisons later as it could just be from Circuit.
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BULLDOGNIC wrote:
Why did PdC write this admission in English unless it was specifically meant for the HBHG crowd? Also the handwriting of the word Bergere looks extremely familiar, can't remember from what document/parchment etc. I'll do some comparisons later as it could just be from Circuit.
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He was corresponding to an English researcher (not HBHG group) who had written to him.

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roscoe wrote:
BULLDOGNIC wrote:
Why did PdC write this admission in English unless it was specifically meant for the HBHG crowd? Also the handwriting of the word Bergere looks extremely familiar, can't remember from what document/parchment etc. I'll do some comparisons later as it could just be from Circuit.
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He was corresponding to an English researcher (not HBHG group) who had written to him.

Thanks Roscoe
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Sheila wrote:
there is much more going on Unter den Linden than you perceive....under the Lime trees...under the Tilleuls..or Sub Tilia as it is called.

very subtle.

Tilia sub tilia filat subtilia fila. Tilia under the lime-tree spins subtle threads.


Yes Roscoe, there is a pattern here...the pattern is TIME and how to reclaim it.... the Transfiguration, the past - the present - the future...all in a single moment of eternity.


Sleeping Beauty the original title

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Perrault transformed the tone of Basile's "Sole, Luna, e Tilia". Beside differences in tone, the most notable differences in the plot is that, in Basile's version, the sleep did not stem from a curse, but was prophesied; that the king did not wake Tilia from the sleep with a kiss, but raped her, and when she gave birth to two children, one sucked on her finger, drawing out the piece of flax that had put her to sleep, which woke her; and that the woman who resented her and tried to eat her and her children was not the king's mother but his jealous wife. The mother-in-law's jealousy is less motivated, although common in fairy tales.



The second half, in which the princess and her children are almost put to death, but hidden instead, may have been influenced by St. Genevieve


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PAX 681

GEMATRIA

P -> Π -> 80
A ->Α -> 1
X ->Х -> 600

PAX = 681 In Gematria

You are using Greek gematria, so why not use Greek letters?

The numerical correspondences for the Greek alphabet are:

P ->P -> 100
A ->Α -> 1
X ->Х -> 600

PAX = 701 In Gematria

Where P = rho, A = alpha, X = chi.

If you look at de Cherisey's Stone and Paper, PAX is clearly referring to the chi rho symbol (denoting the vision of Constantine). There is no chi pi symbol.

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Since we are playing with numbers, here is my contribution. Petter Amundsen claims in his book The Organ Player that Poussin’s “Shepherds of Arcadia” is related to a mystery set up by Francis Bacon, and that Francis Bacon used a version of gematria where letters correspond to the number giving the letters' position in the English alphabet he used (consisting of 24 letters, I = J and U = V):

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Adding the numbers corresponding to the letters from the start of the “BERGERE PAS DE TENTATION” –message until, and including, the number 681 (DCLXXXI), we get the sum 681:

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This passage of the message supposedly refers to Poussin’s painting. In an article found here http://poussinsarcadia.blogspot.com I have argued that the painting contains a geometric puzzle based on a pentagonal geometry where angles of 36⁰, 72⁰ and 108⁰ feature prominently. In the painting we can see that the red shepherd’s staff passes between the D and the I in ET IN ARCADIA EGO.

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Adding the gematria (Bacon-style)for the letters up until the D we get 72, while the rest of the letters add up to 36, with a total sum of 108.

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Adrian wrote:
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PAX 681
GEMATRIA
P -> Π -> 80
A ->Α -> 1
X ->Х -> 600
PAX = 681 In Gematria

You are using Greek gematria, so why not use Greek letters?
The numerical correspondences for the Greek alphabet are:
P ->P -> 100
A ->Α -> 1
X ->Х -> 600
PAX = 701 In Gematria
Where P = rho, A = alpha, X = chi.
If you look at de Cherisey's Stone and Paper, PAX is clearly referring to the chi rho symbol (denoting the vision of Constantine). There is no chi pi symbol.




don't mean to interupt, but the greek form of Gematria is called "Isopsephy". ie "The Magdalene" equals 153, the exact number of fish caught at John 21:11, where she is referred to.

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Adrian wrote:
Roscoe wrote:

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PAX 681

GEMATRIA

P -> Π -> 80
A ->Α -> 1
X ->Х -> 600

PAX = 681 In Gematria

You are using Greek gematria, so why not use Greek letters?

The numerical correspondences for the Greek alphabet are:

P ->P -> 100
A ->Α -> 1
X ->Х -> 600

PAX = 701 In Gematria

Where P = rho, A = alpha, X = chi.

If you look at de Cherisey's Stone and Paper, PAX is clearly referring to the chi rho symbol (denoting the vision of Constantine). There is no chi pi symbol.


Actually, if one uses the Aequicalculus system to calculate the value using Latin letters - where "P" is as in "Paul" - you get the same value as in the Greek system, 681.

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Franck R wrote:
Since we are playing with numbers, here is my contribution. Petter Amundsen claims in his book The Organ Player that Poussin’s “Shepherds of Arcadia” is related to a mystery set up by Francis Bacon, and that Francis Bacon used a version of gematria where letters correspond to the number giving the letters' position in the English alphabet he used (consisting of 24 letters, I = J and U = V):

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Adding the numbers corresponding to the letters from the start of the “BERGERE PAS DE TENTATION” –message until, and including, the number 681 (DCLXXXI), we get the sum 681:

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This passage of the message supposedly refers to Poussin’s painting. In an article found here http://poussinsarcadia.blogspot.com I have argued that the painting contains a geometric puzzle based on a pentagonal geometry where angles of 36⁰, 72⁰ and 108⁰ feature prominently. In the painting we can see that the red shepherd’s staff passes between the D and the I in ET IN ARCADIA EGO.

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Adding the gematria (Bacon-style)for the letters up until the D we get 72, while the rest of the letters add up to 36, with a total sum of 108.

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This is quite justified especially since the division is repeated again in the tombstone with the crosses.

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And 6:8:1681 is the feast of Diana (without Pope Gregory's correction) in the year that the Prieure de Sion started. Feast of the Transfiguration or Lughnasagh.

As I've already mentioned 108 degrees is the angle from La Tour d'Alchemie to La Soulane, the point where the sun rises on the Celtic Years day.

It does refer to a pentacle and it is probably this one.

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Interesting star/planet configuration on Midsummers Day 1681.

“In the Aude, the peasants rather believe in the malignant spirit, the fairies and the underground geniuses than with the Virgin and the Angels” - Gaston Jourdanne: Contribution to the Folklore of the Aude, 1900


To quote Andrew (Gough)

"Ask a bee what the Druids knew"

It has been known for some time that the bees use the sun for navigation.

Statutes of Alpha Galates (First Gauls) comprises of Nine Degrees, the last three are called:

Son Excellence Druidique

Son Altesse Druidique

Sa Majesté Druidique

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However I thought Paul explained his research very well.

Hi Adrian,

Yes i thought so too. No vague intimations or silly one liners from him. And a certain amount of humility regarding his research about his ideas or theories - and no dogmatic or condescending attitude towards others because he thinks he knows it all.

I thought it was a breath of fresh air .....


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wayward wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Roscoe wrote:
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PAX 681
GEMATRIA
P -> Π -> 80
A ->Α -> 1
X ->Х -> 600
PAX = 681 In Gematria

You are using Greek gematria, so why not use Greek letters?
The numerical correspondences for the Greek alphabet are:
P ->P -> 100
A ->Α -> 1
X ->Х -> 600
PAX = 701 In Gematria
Where P = rho, A = alpha, X = chi.
If you look at de Cherisey's Stone and Paper, PAX is clearly referring to the chi rho symbol (denoting the vision of Constantine). There is no chi pi symbol.




don't mean to interupt, but the greek form of Gematria is called "Isopsephy". ie "The Magdalene" equals 153, the exact number of fish caught at John 21:11, where she is referred to.


Oh very interesting Bill
what a coincidence :wink:

Thanks to everybody
Roscoe Adrian and Frank
great pictures

So 1681 is after Poussin's death
Priory started after Poussin

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don't mean to interupt, but the greek form of Gematria is called "Isopsephy". ie "The Magdalene" equals 153, the exact number of fish caught at John 21:11, where she is referred to.


Oh very interesting Bill
what a coincidence :wink:

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I think this is much more than a mere coincidence Lov. IMHO

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GEMATRIA by Frederick Bligh Bond
A Preliminary Investigation of The Cabala

contained in the

Coptic Gnostic Books

and of a similar Gematria in the Greek
text of the New Testament
SHOWING THE PRESENCE OF A SYSTEM OF TEACHING BY MEANS OF THE DOCTRINAL SIGNIFICANCE OF NUMBERS, BY WHICH THE HOLY NAMES ARE CLEARLY SEEN TO REPRESENT AEONIAL RELATIONSHIPS WHICH CAN BE CONCEIVED IN A GEOMETRIC SENSE AND ARE CAPABLE OF A TYPICAL EXPRESSION OF THAT ORDER.


BY
FREDERICK BLIGH BOND, F.R.I.B.A.
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THOMAS SIMCOX LEA, D.D.

First Published 1917


FREDERICK BLIGH BOND The man who placed the Vesica Pisces over the Chalice Well at Glastonbury.

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Bligh joined the Freemasons in 1889, the Theosophical Society in 1895, the Society for Psychical Research in 1902, the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia in 1909[7] and the Ghost Club in 1925. As early as 1899 Bligh Bond had expressed his belief that the dimensions of the buildings at Glastonbury Abbey were based on gematria,[4] and in 1917 he published, with Thomas Simcox Lea, Gematria, A Preliminary Investigation of The Cabala contained in the Coptic Gnostic Books and of a similar Gematria in the Greek text of the New Testament, which incorporated his own previously published paper, The Geometric Cubit as a Basis of Proportion in the Plans of Mediaeval Buildings.[1]

In 1919 he published The Gates of Remembrance, which revealed that he had employed psychical methods to guide his excavation of the Glastonbury ruins, using first Captain John Allan Bartlett (‘John Alleyne’) as a medium, and later others. As a consequence of these revelations his relations with his employers, who strongly disapproved of spiritualism, deteriorated, and he was sacked in 1921.[2]

From 1921 to 1926 he was editor of Psychic Science.

In 1926 Bligh Bond emigrated to the USA, where he was employed as education secretary of the American Society for Psychical Research and worked as editor on their magazine, Survival.[1] Bligh Bond broke with the ASPR and returned to England in 1936,[2] also rejoining the Ghost Club in the process, after supporting accusations against the medium Mina Crandon that she had fraudulently produced thumbprints on wax that she presented as being produced by the spirit of her dead brother, Walter.[1]

During his time in the USA Bond was ordained, and in 1933 consecrated as a bishop, in the Old Catholic Church of America.


Frederick Bligh Bond was a practitioner of Psychic archeology

According to Frederick Bligh Bond Glastonbury Abbey was founded in 166 CE and was the site of the first above ground Christian Church in the world.

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An example of psychometry in psychic archaeology occurred at 17:45, 22 October 1941 when Professor Stanisław Poniatowski of the University of Warsaw handed Polish psychic Stefan Ossowiecki a projectile point from the Magdalenian culture. After holding the artifact Ossowiecki stated that it was a spear point from France or Belgium, belonging to round house dwelling people with brownish skin, black hair, short stature, large hands, feet and hips wearing skins. He describes a funeral pyre, burial, and two domesticated dogs.[5] Jeffrey Goodman, author and psychic archaeologist, considers Ossowiecki’s psychometry validated for the following reasons: large hipped women are observed in Magdalenian Venus figurines, bone needles associated with Magdalenian culture may have been used to sew skin clothing, and the bearded man on the funeral pyre “may have been one of the bearded Magdalenians who are found represented in Magdalenian cave art.

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PAX DCLXXXI = 681 paces
PAR LA CROIX = by the cross
ET CE CHEVAL DE DIEU = and the road to Valdieu
(che = chemin)

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OH WELL DONE ROSCOE

So why the TRANSFIGURATION ?

You have steadfastly refused to look at it.


Well this has spooked me recently.

6th August (6th of the 8th)

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The Galatic equator and the Ecliptic cross on the 6th August but here it coincides with the passage of Venus across the Sun's disk (happens every eight years) this year whilst the Olympics are on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QHvyFP7 ... re=related

On the 6th August this year Venus passes the

GATE OF MAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JFUU9Rh ... re=related

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The medals

The goddess and the palm leaf

on the back
Confusion but also a triangle around the word ZION.

CHAO AB ORDO

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Where is the Gorge of Galamus on the pentagram map? Do you

have a map that shows the important peaks around RLC?

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Where is the Gorge of Galamus on the pentagram map? Do you

have a map that shows the important peaks around RLC?



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don't mean to interupt, but the greek form of Gematria is called "Isopsephy". ie "The Magdalene" equals 153, the exact number of fish caught at John 21:11, where she is referred to.



I should have mentioned when I first wrote this, that Isopsephy was very common in the first century. There were several uses of it even uncovered at Pompeii and dated to 79AD. One of these says "I love her whose number is 545" another reads "Amerimnus thought upon his lady Harmonia for good, the number of honorable name is 45".

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