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I'll start by saying that the true identity of Henri LOBINEAU/Comte Henri de LENONCOURT was Uncle Etienne ...... Guess who?

If you take out a street map of Paris, and cast a glance at the area around the old Abbey of St Germain, you'll soon see where and why the pseudonym Lobineau. I can't imagine why anyone would believe "Lobineau" and Lenoncourt were one and the same person.

In the light of all these clues, what can my readers work out from this?

Will that do? As I'm in a library I don't have access to any archives and short on time.

This thread seems to have dried up. I thought it might, yet I find the English affair the most absorbing aspect of 20th century British history. It's surprising that so many English people seem to avoid this subject. It is still an official secret and is likely to remain so for many years to come.

Etienne PLANTARD working for the British royal family? Surely not!

I would like to start a serious discussion on the affair of 1955-6 involving the 'English gentlemen' - so crucial to the bloodline theme. I'll start by saying that the true identity of Henri LOBINEAU/Comte Henri de LENONCOURT was Uncle Etienne ...... Guess who?

GAYLORD FREEMAN AS GRAND MASTER

From 1918 to 1963, Jean Cocteau was Grand Master of the Prieure de Sion. Following the unification of the various powers into a secret NWO government in 1954, the Prieure de Sion had a major policy dispute. In 1963 with Cocteau’s death, Gaylord Freeman, helped by Antonio Merzagora and Pierre Plantard de Saint-Clair, governed the Prieure de Sion. In 1981, Pierre Plantard took over as Grand Master. In 1952, long before becoming Grand Master, Plantard de Saint-Clair transferred 100 million francs worth of gold ingots to Switzerland to the Union des Banques Suisses. When this was publicly revealed, he said that it was a legitimate move made for the French government.

In 1955, several men associated with the Prieure de Sion obtained some old parchments two of which gave the Merovingian genealogies, and they used the British Notary of Royal Appointment Patrick Francis Jourdan Freeman (that’s one name) in relation to a request to the French government to take the old documents to London, England where they were kept at 39 Great Russell St.

Later P.F.J. Freeman was used again the next year to request that the documents be allowed to stay in England to be held in a safe deposit box at Lloyd’s Bank of Europe in London. One of the men involved went by the name Captain Ronald Stansmore Nutting of London (born in Dublin, IR) who is reported by reliable sources to have been in British Intelligence MI5, and had sat on the board of directors of at least 14 companies, including Arthur Guinness and Guardian Assurance. He was chairman of the board of the British and Irish Steam Packet Company. He was also governor of the Bank of Ireland.

One of Guardian Assurance’s departmental chairmen was also an MI5 operative besides Capt. Nutting. Another P.d.S. member who was with Nutting was Viscount Frederick Leathers, who was British Minister of War Transport during W.W. II. Viscount Leathers had a business associate and long-time friend Sir William Stephenson, who was the wartime chief for MI6’s American branch office called BSC (British Security Coordination) in New York. Another friend of Leathers was Connop Guthrie also headed BSC for MI-6 in New York. Guthrie was a shipping executive.

Due to internal trouble in the Prieure de SIon that resulted from a rule that members had to place a birth certificate and signature with the Priory, an English faction created forgeries of birth certificates and signatures and in secret protest sent these as originals to France. PJ. Freeman then got involved in this act of defiance. Another division occurred between the French members and the Brit.-American members. The French wanted more of a role and some type of restoration of the monarchy in a United Europe. The Amer.-British members who far outnumbered the few French wanted to skip the monarchy idea.

The Vatican and the Prieure de Sion (P.d.S. - my personal abbreviation) work together. Apparently, the Vatican is given some type of minor kickback for their cooperation. John Drick, A. Robert Abboud, and Gaylord Freeman were three members of the Prieure de Sion that were associated with the First National Bank of Chicago. John Drick had started as an assistant cashier in 1944 and became a vice-president three years later. In 1969 Drick became both the president and one of the directors of the bank. He also was on the board of a number of other companies including, Stephan Chemical, MCA incorporated, Oak Industries, and Central Illinois Public Service. The Guardian Royal Exchange Assurance (the Guardian Assurance) in London where P.J. Freeman worked had shared a building with the First National Bank of Chicago which had Gaylord Freeman as chairman of the board of directors. In other words, the two businesses and the two Freemans all connected its seems to the Prieure de Sion, and then by other inferences all connected back to the hierarchy. Gaylord Freeman’s signature appeared on a Prieure de Sion document of Dec. 16, 1983. Gaylord Freeman never publicly admitted that he even knew anything about the P.d.S.

GRAND MASTER GAYLORD FREEMAN and ROGER FREEMAN instructed the U.S. government

On the next page is a photocopy of the article that the New York Times ran when Gaylord (Gale) Freeman died. It has often been said if you want to know who really runs things, look at a man’s advisors. Now check this out, Gaylord Freeman never ran for any major political office--and the voting process is supposedly to get men who know what they are doing into office, and yet if you read the N.Y. Times biography you will read "Mr. Freeman...was frequently called on by Washington for advice and assistance.’ Yes, Presidents and Congressman called Gaylord Freeman for advice (instructions might be a better term), and yet most of us haven’t even heard of the man! Again for those who think that only the Rockefellers and Rothschild's are powerful families, let me ask, why weren’t they calling Rockefeller? Not only did the Presidents turn to Gaylord Freeman for advice (orders), they also turned to another member of the family, Roger A. Freeman.

Roger A. Freeman was a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute. (I suspect Roger was Jewish but the newspaper doesn’t say any religion.) The New York Times biographical news article that came out when Roger died is also put on the next page. Note that in the headline they emphasize that Roger Freeman played the role as advisor to 2 presidents. And yet I doubt that hardly any American has heard of him. One prominent Freeman, James D. Freeman has played a leadership role in Unity School.

James Freeman has written at least six important books for Unity which they have published. Two of his works are Unity School and The Story of Unity. Had the article on spiritual warfare covered ritual sites in Kansas-Missouri I would have mentioned about the Unity School. Near (adjoining) the Unity School, in between Kansas City, Ks. and Kansas City, Mo. is a strip of wooded land. Little Ricky Rd. goes through this area, and the forest along Little Ricky Rd. has been used for Satanic rituals by a coven that was made up of adults not teenagers-Interestingly, a man who was part of the Unity School hierarchy, and came to Christ told me that the school secretly conducted Luciferian initiations and that Robert Schuler, 33° Mason, and leading Protestant clergyman knew all about Luciferian initiations being conducted there, yet Schuler went ahead and taught his principles of church growth to Unity School.

They call the school Unity School of Christianity but a more accurate name would be Unity School of Witchcraft. Many witches have in fact been associated with the Unity Church and are closely working with it to secretly destroy Christianity. I know from inside information that the hierarchy is sending orders to the school, so it would not surprise me if James D. Freeman was actually part of the Freeman family that is one of the top 13 Illuminati families. Some of the family are clearly Jewish, such as Ernest Robert Freeman, who lives in Maryland and is an important Jewish leader. He has been the dlr. of the Jewish Community Council in his area, and President of the Sachs/Freeman Assoc. The Sachs family also ties into the conspiracy so that is interesting. And Grace Freeman, who is Jewish, wrote Inside the Synagogue. Some of the Freemans are leaders in Christendom too.

Lee Jackson Freeman is an American Baptist minister. He went to Union Theological Seminary, which is a totally ungodly place--they turn out socialists for graduates, etc. Lee Jackson Freeman was a member of the executive board of the national ministries of the American Baptist Church. He also served in the Ecumenical Ministries in his Scranton, PA area. R. Lexie Freeman is a Nashville, Tenn. Methodist pastor (Waverly Place) who is a Freemason.

SUMMARY

We find the Freeman family popping up as the Grand Master of the Prieure de Sion, as a co-rounder of the O.T.O., as a member of the Skull and Bones, as a powerful ADL member, as members of Satanic covens, and as authors. of occult books, as well as other suspicious things. It also should be mentioned that two of the Freemans have been very important advisors to the U.S. Presidents and many other high political leaders. The Freeman family has all the earmarks of being one of the top 13 Illuminati families as my confidential sources reveal.

Here's a good one for those with half an interest.

Queen Victoria not only ordered her own personal copy of Boudet's La Vraie Langue Celtique et le Cromlech de Rennes les Bains but also sent a congratulations letter to Boudet.

Sir Henry Ponsonby presents his compliments to Monsieur Cailhol and is commanded by the Queen Victoria to request him to thank the Reverend Pere Boudet for the interesting work on Languedoc and English which he has had the kindness to present to Her Majesty.

Did she really order it, though, or was it an unsolicited gift from Boudet, by way of his friend and intermediary, Constantin Cailhol (discussed on the Abbe Delmas thread), during the Queen's stay in Biarritz in the spring of 1889? She certainly sent the note of thanks afterwards, as you say, or rather her private secretary, Sir Henry Ponsonby, did, from Biarritz, on 29th March 1889:



Another copy of LVLC was given to Lord Lytton, British Ambassador to France from 1887 to 1891, whose secretary, H Austin Lee, also sent a note of thanks.

I got the above from Peter O'Reilly's article, "The Mysterious Monsieur Cailhol", printed in the Rennes Observer, April 2005.

Yes Thanks Richard. Plantard also mentioned it. Just a bit of interest to the proceedings. Do you think that Cailhol is a made up name?

I have now read the [article] by Peter O'Reilly entitled "The Mysterious Monsieur Cailhol" that was published in the Rennes Observer in April 2005. And it transpires that this is not a translation of the similarly titled article by Jean-Alain Sipra, as we speculated that it might be, although it does make reference to it. Sipra, it seems, questions whether Cailhol was real and suggests this might have been one of Boudet's puns, whereas O'Reilly argues that he was likely a real person.

Someone has very kindly indeed furnished me with a copy of the O'Reilly article. A combination of technical ineptitude and, more importantly, due respect for the author and the copyright of his work, precludes me from reproducing it here, but I have summarised the salient points below. In essence, the author makes a persuasive case for M Constantin Cailhol of Alet-les-Bains having been a real person, and contemporary of Boudet's.

The article contains three principle arguments, each of which I've addressed below.

References in La Vraie Langue Celtique

The article cites the reference we have been discussing some way above, to the head of the Saviour taken from Cap de l'Homme and entrusted to M Cailhol for safekeeping. But it transpires that there are two other references to Cailhol in Boudet's book - one about him (described as an explorer) finding a carved stone in a cave at Bize, and another about him having in his possession a millstone fragment found in the soil by workers constructing the road from Rennes-les-Bains to Sougraines in 1884.

Fossiles de Rennes-les-Bains (Aude)

On searching the website of the Academie des Sciences, Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres de Toulouse, the author finds in the index of articles a reference to one entitled Fossiles de Rennes-les-Bains (Aude), the author of which is given as a Cailhol. There are no initials before the surname, but as O'Reilly surmises, it would surely be too much of a coincidence for this to be referring to a different person. O'Reilly speculates that Cailhol was likely a notable contributor to Boudet's research for LVLC.

Queen Victoria

A letter is reproduced in the article - it also apparently appears in L'Alphbet Solaire by Chaumeil and Riviere, and in Jarnac's Histoire du Tresor de Rennes-le-Chateau - from Sir Henry Ponsonby, private secretary to Queen Victoria, sent from Biarritz on 29th March 1889, where the Queen spent some time that year, and following receipt of LVLC. It reads:



As O'Reilly goes on to argue, this letter strongly suggests that Cailhol was an intermediary for Boudet, and therefore likely a close friend and confidante.

Another letter is reproduced, including a facsimilie of the hand written version, from an H Austin Lee, secretary to Lord Lytton, British Ambassador to France (1887-91), and also referring to Boudet's book, also sent from Biarritz in March 1889, and although absent the name of the addressee, O'Reilly reasonably surmises that this letter was also written to Cailhol.

There then follows some interesting speculation about how the visit of Queen Victoria to France might have inspired Boudet and Cailhol to use the opportunity of her relative proximity to the Aude to present the book to her.

I hope Peter O'Reilly won't mind if I quote verbatim the very last part of the article, because I liked this part very much, and it sums things up rather nicely, I think.



Thanks so much again to the person who sent me the article. Based on this, and other parts of the discussion above, I'd say that Constantin Cailhol was a real person, and a rather interesting sounding one as well.

Anyone know the whereabouts of irmine these days? Need to discuss this Plantard/Gaylord Freeman connection. All of the people mentioned in this English Connection are real people.

Another copy of LVLC was given to Lord Lytton, British Ambassador to France from 1887 to 1891, whose secretary, H Austin Lee, also sent a note of thanks.

irmine has been around roscoe, and i believe she will answer your PM.---Bill

Bulwer-Lytton was an Occultist.

The Nazis loved his book Zanoni and it's idea of the super race.

This Bulwer-Lytton would have been the son of the Zanoni author, but still an interesting connection. These are the basic details of Edward Robert Lytton Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Earl of Lytton's life, which concluded with his service as Queen Victoria's ambassador to France from 1887-91. His mother, Rosina Doyle Wheeler, sounds like an interesting person as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bul ... _of_Lytton

Initially Richard I thought this to be the case but it was the Occultist, SRIA member and writer of Zanoni who was the Ambassador to France from 1887. It is confusing.

No, I think it must have been the son who was ambassador to France, with the father as the occultist. This is the Zanoni author's Wiki entry, which has him dying in 1873.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bul ... ron_Lytton

I see he was interested in Hollow Earth theory. I wonder if he'd ever heard of Bugarach.

GRAND LAMIASTIC ORDER OF LIGHT
Fratis Lucis

The Order Fratis Lucis was founded in 1882 by the English Jew Maurice Vidal Portman an orientalist and politician who in 1876 was in close cotact with Lord Lytton, then Viceroy of India the author of the well known book Zanoni.

Now it is getting confusing because yes it was the son who was the Ambassador to France, however I have this from Edith Starr Miller the author of Occult Theocrasy:



It was the son who was Viceroy of India in 1876. Later to become Ambassador to France in 1887.