Arcadia Discussion Zone

post the conversation up, or tell me what book and pages and i'll read it, can't say fairer than that.

You post it up, you have it in front of you. remember? Is there some reason that you wont explain what YOU think they mean by the statement?

Might as well now you've ruined the thread with your bloody pedantry anyway.

NOTHING

You can have the thread back gents. She's finished destroying it.

will you stop being so rude Roscoe.

tell me what page you're on and i'll discuss it.

that would involve a rapid increase in maturity and I can't see that too soon, Sheila

Funny how the mystery tends to brings out the child in us isn't it

could you have a look through this morning's conversation and see where i went wrong !

not sure you did, people just seem to go into histrionics at the slightest provacation on this site. Many people seem clouded by the faith they have in their own theory and then become all protective of it as though it is their invention....perhaps it is and they are not rediscovering the truth
such a pity because if this forum was used for it's real purpose - as a place where people can discuss ideas together and then arrive at a collective coherence then I think we'd be much nearer any answer then we currently are, which is probably no closer then people were 30 years ago.
Instead this place resembles a playground at times, bikering, name calling, being in the "right" clique. Time to ditch the egos, maybe?

I can only speak for myself, but I certainly don't have to believe that Poussin painted a tomb at Pontils; I'm merely perpared to have an open mind about it, and not dismiss out of hand something so self-evidently, and enduringly, curious and intriguing.

With regard to the posts further down that address the shape of the 1903 tomb, this is all good and interesting stuff, but isn't it a somewhat moot point, in the sense that I don't believe anyone, even the most ardent and uncritical adherent of the Poussin-Pontils idea, is suggesting that the tomb that was destroyed in the late 1980s is the one that appeared in the painting. It is reasonably well accepted, I believe, that this tomb was constructed in the early 20th century, and merely occupies the site - possibly - of an earlier tomb. Following this scenario through - just for the sake of argument - one might therefore envisage that the builders of the modern tomb were entirely unaware of the connection between the site and Poussin's painting, and as a consequence, saw no need to copy the exact detail of the earlier tomb, of which they would likely have had no idea in any case, if the earlier tomb had been moved or destroyed many years previously. Within such a scenario, therefore, the composition and detailing of the modern tomb is irrelevant, and the pertinent question is whether or not there was indeed an earlier tomb on that rocky knoll, and what significance this may have had. I don't have the answer to that, of course, but I see no harm in continuing to ask the question, and speculating about what it might all mean.

You're probably right.

I support that. Can't we just all agree to discuss MY pet theory.

Perhaps if the damn farmer had let the tomb be examined, rather than taking a sledgehammer tae it, it might, just might have dampened down speculation...on the other he it would have removed some of the fun we have wondering aboot it.
Whatever, the place will always have some fascination to me....up until I'm knocked over by a car while looking at it.

It's your thread, apologies for talking too much.

Talk away, Sheila

remember...it's Poussin and Teniers.



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too true, what was your Pet theory btw?

My all time favourite theory would have to be that ET IN ARCADIA EGO is an anagram for A GOT A NICER IDEA, where A is the French renaissance painter Antoine Caron.

Where is this sketch from Sheila?

Hi Tina, it's from "Les pénitences secrètes de Bérenger Saunière" by IBJ......with some 'blanking out' done, until i get his permission to print the whole page up.

I was alluding to the importance of water issuing from the tomb in the grand scheme of things.

i found it here...not come across that one before

http://archives.renneslechateau-fr.com/ ... e89f3725b3

Here is the page from the book in question...if IBJ objects to me posting it, i will take it down.



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"everything changes, nothing perishes"

Only change itself is real, constant and eternal flux, like the continuous flow of the river which always renews itself.

....at the oracle, the prophetess stationed herself on an axon with her feet or robes in the sacred spring...an axon.... axis of the heavens, or a meridian.