Arcadia Discussion Zone

Yes, the water is a very important thing. The most important secret of the roman church.

Hi Franck,

reading your blog today. Good work.

I found a lot of thinks according to my research. Thank you for that.

Go ahead

As Blunt said, "The normal one." That's why H.L. was so pissed at him.

Since you are obsessed with rebirth of the soul see what Julius Caesar wrote of the Druids in his Commentarii de Bello Gallico. He said:

“With regard to their actual course of studies, the main object of all education is, in their opinion, to imbue their scholars with a firm belief in the indestructibility of the human soul, which, according to their belief, merely passes at death from one tenement to another, for by such doctrine alone, they say, which robs death of all its terrors, can the highest form of courage be developed. Subsidary to the teachings of this main principle, they hold various lectures and discussions on astronomy, on the extent and geographical distribution of the globe, on the different branches of natural philosophy and on many problems connected with religion”

But this none fear of death cost Boudicca (and us) dearly. We are still trying to shake off the influence of the befrocked dictator in Rome.

Someone else who hasn't bothered to read what's on this website.

Still the KGB loved Blunt. Now there's a man you can trust with a secret.

via Lyon of course.

How about Chambéry where the Holy Shroud was once kept.

Or what about a place where an abortive Allied airbourne drop was attempted during WWII?

Via Lyon.....why not try reading his letters yourself Roscoe.

Your picture can't be seen in your posting, Sheila.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 ... ntain1.jpg

as to "how to get in and back out again" ... use Ariane's thread!

Thanks, hans peper. Could you give us some indications on how this relates to your own research?

I did, I even posted H.L.'s comment about not trusting expert's like Blunt but took it down because I assumed i thought it was well known, H.L.'s bitterness at not getting the answer he so desperately wanted from Blunt.

As for Blunt being a double agent - Henry Lincoln would never cast aspersions on someone's paymaster in the morally ambigous world of spycraft now would he, and now we know why

I know you were trying to stitch Sheila up, but it actually doesn't make a difference because the picture still get's you to the same conclusion.

H.L. wanted Blunt to say he took the unknown route of the pilgrimage through RLC but he didn't and Blunt wasn't going to lie about it, so he said the truth when he said "he took the normal one(route)." Frankly H.L. doesn't need him to have done so in order to make his case about the pilgrimages, he just thinks he does.

My guess is you don't realise H.L. is on the same page when it comes to the ancient aquaduct system therefore you don't realise how unneccessary it is which route Poussin took.

One of the results from my resaerch is, that the "tomb" is situated on the top of a mountain.
But I believe, that the "tomb" is a church.

One "trick" of the painters is to change the scale. See my postings in "The Poussin staffs - an alternative viewpoint".

As you'll know, Roscoe, when Henry Lincoln and his producer Paul Johnstone gave a private showing of their "Chronicle" film to a group of art experts, despite pouring predictable scorn upon the notion of there being a connection between the painting and the tomb, they were completely unable to offer any detail on Poussin's itinerary between 1640 and 1642.

However, a decade or so later, it seems that the view of the "art world" may have shifted a bit, according to this footnote in Lincoln's book.



This is the book in question.



http://www.abebooks.co.uk/products/isbn ... 1588416452

Just one person's opinion, of course, but it shows to me that this remains an open question for open minds.

When Henry Lincoln interviewed Sir Anthony (as he then was) the latter was very much a part of the establishment. He was surveyor of Her Majesty's pictures for God's sake ! Although there had been suspicions in the spook fraternity about Blunt's double role since the early 50s, this was unknown to the general public including, I presume, Henry Lincoln. It was only when Blunt was 'outed' by Thatcher in 79-80, I think, that it came to the attention of all and sundry.

Collection de Lettres de Nicolas Poussin from 1824, including those between 1640 and 1642.

http://books.google.fr/books?id=pIpCAAA ... in&f=false

It is only Roscoe that make the ad hominem attack on Blunt and his life as spy, he must have figured it was better then just dismissing him out of hand considering his expert testimony on Poussin is unimpeachable - H.L. only speaks of him as a arrogant and blinkered expert on Poussin, so you're right Pilrig, it means Roscoe you're ahead of the curveball - H.L. is yet to out Blunt as KGB spy as a rebuttal to Blunt's assertion that Poussin took the "normal route"
He just feels it's more efficacious to say "arrogant and blinkered" rather then argue on the points de merit or any kind of Historical accuracy.


http://www.henrylincoln.co.uk/blog.php?e=235

You do realise you're book will have absolutely no effect whatsoever on those that have to believe Poussin painted the pontils tomb.
We'll just pretend that Nicky failed to write the chapter entitled "Shepherds of Arcadia - View from the non-existent pontil's tomb" Or RLC the long way round.

Hi Rain, anyone interested in Poussin's connections and letters should check out Cassiano dal Pozzo, an Italian scholar and patron of arts and the secretary of Cardinal Francesco Barberini.
He was an antiquary in the classicizing circle of Rome, and a long-term friend and patron of Nicolas Poussin, whom he supported from his earliest arrival in Rome: Poussin in a letter, declared that he was "a disciple of the house and the museum of cavaliere dal Pozzo."
A doctor with interests in the proto-science of alchemy, a correspondent of major figures like Galileo, a collector of books and master drawings, Cassiano dal Pozzo was a node in the network of European scientific figures and more besides.....and, he corresponded with exactitude and regularity for over 20 years with Nicolas Poussin.

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....exactly.

sorry fmh, but if Poussin would see your lines, he will turn himself in his tomb.

those lines fit exactly with the tomb...but the shape is not important.

http://www.jstor.org/pss/873062

Above all, he (Poussin) formed part, as did Testa, of the team assembled by Cassiano dal Pozzo to extract from the monuments of Rome whatever was relevant to the life of the Ancients. In this respect his curiosity was insatiable.

The problem is that the line telling us whether it is flat on the top or has a hipped roof is hidden behind the woman. Both models below would conform to the lines we see. My drawing may not be very accurat, but the point is that it is what is hidden behind the woman which determines what the top of the tomb is like.





I’m not quite sure why I’m arguing this, since I have no strong opinions on the Pontil’s tomb. I just got a little provoked by you and Sheila being so sure.

Edit: I've added a more plausible figure

Don't you think to have a problem with the perspective on your "solution 2"? I think that the point "a" in my little graphic is the main important point which tells wether the roof is flat or not. I am not sure that out of the Poussin tomb you can construct a 8-corner shaped tomb with the given perspectives as the Pontils tomb was.