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You'd have to be 'well-oiled' to laugh at that.

Hey pilrig,

I was afraid for your reply.

But I was only amused about the genetic discussion and the name of the haplogroup.

Dont want to hurt you and all scots (ecxept of a few, you will know)

BTW : on the border to Denmark the name of beer is oil.

And on the other side of the border its name is Carlsberg.

Yes, elefant oil and jule brygg (christmas brew) - very strong be careful

"Probably NOT the best lager in the world"

No it is not the best, but the Denmarks drinkers do it by quantity

us americans ain't bad.

Very good in fact, Bud 'n' Millers inferior only to Stella

Hi Pilrig, I was actually going with what Hans said, "quanity". Believe it or not Buds not even american anymore, and I think that the company that bought them out also owns Stella.

we've lost quite a few american brands. Levi's are no longer made in USA, Budweiser is no longer owned by Americans and Chevy is now Government Motors. sigh....I guess we'll lose baseball and apple pie shortly.

Don't forget "The Honda Tournament of Roses Parade" which we'll be treated to in just a couple of weeks.

Everything's for sale in this country, even our public institutions. All that liberty and justice for all crap is only for inscribing on monuments and public buildings.

TCP

Not that I am questioning your taste (well actually, yes, I am...), but I continue to be amazed that American swill is so popular in Britain, where you have such good beer! I still vividly remember standing in pubs happily sucking down pints of Boddington and Speckled Hen and London Pride and Bass, etc. while most of those around me were consuming Bud Lights! Personally, with the exception of Anchor Steam and some microbrews, I never drink anything but imports, mostly Japanese, although my favorite day in day out beer is a Mexican brand, Pacifico. They continue the great German tradition, the American beers don't.

I think all these modern business situations need to be looked at in their specific contexts and that's not easy by any means. For example, Levis may manufacture overseas, but the profits come here and are larger because they manufacture overseas. Budweiser is foreign owned, but has twelve major breweries in the US, as well as major aluminium manufacturing plants (think of all the American Toyota jobs that came here because it was cheaper to build "local"). The GM/Chrysler bailout (which I disagreed with) appears to be resulting in positive gains (tens of thousands of jobs saved, no foreign acquisition, profits rising, more fuel efficient products, most government funds paid back already). Add in the fact that stockholders in all these enterprises are global investors and the picture becomes even more clouded. The last three companies I worked for were European owned - all three were bought out by American companies, at which point we all lost our jobs. And it ain't getting any simpler...

The Guinness that is poured in Ireland is different and superior to the Guinness that's exported abroad. We get the slops, so to say.

I read somewhere once that most of the Dom Pérignon produced in France is exported to the US. Too sweet for French tastes and thus considered inferior. I'm sure they get a good laugh at us poor hillbillies paying premium prices for their cast-offs.

TCP

As a Guinness connoisseur I can vouch for that, which is certainly unfortunate. There really is nothing like the real deal...

I agree with Caelum that most American beer is swill, although many microbrews do produce some tasty treats. I picked up a variety case of Flying Dog last weekend, few quality brews in that. Working on a Franziskaner Weissbier as I type this. Bottoms up all.

They still put it on monuments? They even screwed up Martin Luther King Jr's monument.... It's beginning to feel like that Liberty and Justice are not for any of us, just a dim memory.

It's all just smoke and mirrors.

If it's cheaper for Toyota to build local, it would be the same for Levi's. The Government departments that we pay tax dollars to support to keep this kind of thing from happening, are not doing anything. They are in the pockets of the corporations they are supposed to be protecting us from. How big does something have to get before it's considered a monopoly? AND considering the taxes GE paid this year, I wouldn't be talking about how that money comes back home....it doesn't.

If attorney generals would start prosecuting conflicts of interest, it would surely help things. The necessary laws are already written, they are ignored. We have anarchy at the highest levels.

But hey, it's Christmas, let's talk about beer. The only beer I like straight up is Killians Irish Red.....anything else needs tomato juice.

With beer? Surely you mean vodka?

I can't stomach English ale, unfortunately, but like European lagers; also much prefer the French way of drinking beer, served not in great tankards, like in the UK, but in a c. third-pint measure, in a stemmed glass, and very cold. I like Stella (Belgium), Amstel (Holland) and Kronenbourg (France), but I think most French or German beers are good, particularly those from the Alsace region.

From further afield, I'd go for Sol (Mexico), or Kingfisher (India - very popular in the UK now, probably brewed here too, because of our love of "Indian", really Bangladeshi, food), or maybe San Miguel (Spain). From the Antipodes, I like Fosters and VB from Oz, and Steinlager from New Zealand.

It looks like something's going on, like a garage sale, a sell out. Liberty & justice - both sold out.

Presentation is everything! Now, what did I do with the Waterford? Makes even the most ugly beverage fit for a Queen.

Actually, I'm not much of a drinker. Everything in moderation. One beer or one glass of wine leaves me 'well oiled' I guess that makes me a cheap date.

Sold out at a garage sale? Now that is truly sad.

Maybe if we just believe.......they will return. However, I fear there are so few of us left to believe in such.

"Everything in moderation, including moderation", is a good philosophy.

They seem to drink red beer quite a bit in France, presumably by adding blackcurrant cordial to it; never tried it. But I do like "red" wine, in the sense of adding cassis, a blackcurrant liqueur, to a glass of white wine, called a Kir. Add it to sparkling wine or champagne, and it's called a Kir Royale, lovely as an aperitif.

We have a red beer in the UK, made from mixing equal parts of lager and cider, and then topping it up with blackcurrant cordial, called a Snakebite. Lethal, and not recommended at all; in fact, banned in a lot of pubs.

Can't beat a Kir at apero time, though .........