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 Post subject: The Masonic 'G' - Keeping it simple.
PostPosted: 04 Dec 2011 7:56 am 
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Ex-33 degree Mason Jim Shaw says; "The Blue Lodge Mason is taught that the "G" in the basic Masonic symbol represents God. Later on, he is told that it represents "deity". Later still, he is told that it represents "geometry".

In reality, this letter represents the "generative principle," the Sun-god and, thus, the worshipped phallus, the male "generative principle..." In its position (along with the square and compass) on the east wall over the chair (throne) of the Worshipful Master, it is the representation of the Sun, thus of the Sun-god, Osiris. Its earthly meaning, then, is of the sacred phallus; its cosmic meaning is of the Sun, worshipped since antiquity by pagans while facing the East. Reference, book: The Deadly Deception", page 144


Nuff said.

It's the Sun and Geometry.

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"Our shield and defender THE ANCIENT OF DAYS.
Pavilioned in splendor and girded with praise."

From Daniel's "Vision by Night" (stargazing again)
Hymn and painting by William Blake
Blake was the Grandmaster of the Druidic Order from 1799 till 1827.
There is no record that he was ever a Freemason but most of his close friends were.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_a_Prophecy, described as a book separating light from darkness. Do they mean dawn and dusk?

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Blake often spoke of Albion, England’s great, mythological past, ruled by Druids. To quote Peter Ackroyd: “All his life, Blake was entranced and persuaded by the idea of a deeply spiritual past, and he continually alluded to the possibility of ancient lore and arcane myths that could be employed to reveal previously hidden truths.”
Blake had read Stukeley’s A[ve]bury on the supposed Druid temples of Avebury and Stonehenge. Blake’s brother Robert drew Druid ceremonies and mythological scenes from British history.
Throughout his life, Blake felt time was an illusion and after his death, he apparently emphasised the point. His wife Catherine continued selling his works and she said that Blake would appear daily to her, sit for some hours with her and advice her on how to run the business. It was no different than Blake’s relationship with his dead brother, whom, Blake stated, appeared to him often for a period of many years.
- Philip Coppens

It's all staring you in the face.

http://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Deception- ... 0910311544

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 Post subject: Re: The Masonic 'G' - Keeping it simple.
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Ex-33 degree Mason Jim Shaw says; "The Blue Lodge Mason is taught that the "G" in the basic Masonic symbol represents God. Later on, he is told that it represents "deity". Later still, he is told that it represents "geometry".


Rubbish!!

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Ex-33 degree Mason Jim Shaw says; "The Blue Lodge Mason is taught that the "G" in the basic Masonic symbol represents God. Later on, he is told that it represents "deity". Later still, he is told that it represents "geometry".


Rubbish!!


Listen Blue Lodge, you'll find out when you get to be 33 degree. Although methinks you'll never make it that far.

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I wouldn't want to blindside you with accuracy, but I can vouch that I was never instructed in Craft Freemasonry that the "G" stands for God.
And you may care to know (look it up, it's available) that I am a 31st Degree Ancient and Accepted Rite Freemason, so only two to go before I could become a member of Supreme Council, if I so desire. Which I currently don't, I'm busy enough.

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I wouldn't want to blindside you with accuracy, but I can vouch that I was never instructed in Craft Freemasonry that the "G" stands for God.
And you may care to know (look it up, it's available) that I am a 31st Degree Ancient and Accepted Rite Freemason, so only two to go before I could become a member of Supreme Council, if I so desire. Which I currently don't, I'm busy enough.


Isn't this what I just said? When you reach 33 degrees they'll tell you. Right now you aren't to be trusted with the truth.

I've seen the same thing in The Deadly Deception and The Brotherhood

Here's what Albert Pike said:

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"The Blue Degrees are but the court or portico (porch) of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine that he understands them… their true explication (explanation and understanding) is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry (those of the 32nd and 33rd Degrees)."

(Morals and Dogma, page 819).


And this:

Come back when you're qualified to comment.

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Gord Lord, that exerpt from The Deadly Deception sure is a hoot. Maybe that's what they do in America, I just don't know. And nor do you. But I do know what happens in the AAR here, firsthand. Maybe not all of the two other degrees I have yet to attain, but some. BTW, they are not HIGHER degrees, the highest degree in Freemasonry is that of a Master Mason.
The "G" is exclusive to the Craft (I've checked), so my comments stand. Again, I can't comment for what goes on in America, but I suspect it would be the same. Then again, if that exerpt has any grain of truth in it, which I doubt, I suppose anything is possible.
So, to reiterate, the "G" does not stand for God. End of discussion. Anyone who believes your interpretation needs, like you, their head read.

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The "G" is exclusive to the Craft (I've checked), so my comments stand. Again, I can't comment for what goes on in America, but I suspect it would be the same. Then again, if that exerpt has any grain of truth in it, which I doubt, I suppose anything is possible.
So, to reiterate, the "G" does not stand for God. End of discussion. Anyone who believes your interpretation needs, like you, their head read.


Hey, now I know where you are coming from : you are a brick layer.

So blinkers on and go ahead laying your bricks to build a new homogenized criticless mankind. :P

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Hey, now I know where you are coming from : you are a brick layer.

So blinkers on and go ahead laying your bricks to build a new homogenized criticless mankind. :P



Hey! Thats what I am, a bricklayer. :wink:

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hans peper wrote:

Hey, now I know where you are coming from : you are a brick layer.

So blinkers on and go ahead laying your bricks to build a new homogenized criticless mankind. :P



Hey! Thats what I am, a bricklayer. :wink:


This is a honored job. I was 10 years of my life a steel fixer . (the hardest 10 years)
Buit I think you will know, what I mean : masonics

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rs2008 wrote:
So, to reiterate, the "G" does not stand for God. End of discussion. Anyone who believes your interpretation needs, like you, their head read.


Well to paraphrase Mandy Rice Davis (prostitute) what she said in court:

"You would say that wouldn't you"

Basically any group that by policy keeps secrets from the public is by definition dishonest. So I don't believe a word you say.

Like I said, they'll tell you when they think you're ready. Assuming you're ever deemed worthy enough to ever reach that position. Until then they'll string you along and expect your blind obedience over and above your own family.

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Like I said, they'll tell you when they think you're ready


presumably you must also be a mason to know this?


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Like I said, they'll tell you when they think you're ready


presumably you must also be a mason to know this?


Sometimes Masons leave the order
I happen to get lucky and knew someone who did
I was fortunate to interview a 33 degree Shriner and a 3rd degree Freemason(York Rite)

I got to see a Freemason Bible too

It was very interesting and I admit after the interview
I had a better feeling about Freemasonry on the whole
To be honest I don't know why it is all secret

These gentlemen were men of the community
Hiram Key was written by two masons Lomas and Knight

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