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After nearly 13 years, a picture of what Sauniere allegedly called the Tomb of Christ has been revealed.

The picture below depicts the tomb that Andre Douzet claims to have discovered in a rocky outcrop in Perillos; an area featured on 'Sauniere's Model'. I learned in my interview with Douzet that the tomb was not so much discovered as called-out in a letter that Sauniere exchanged with the model builders. The first 10 lines of the letter were published for the first time in the inteview (see 17 Questions).

The image represents a 2 meter rock slab blocking an arched entrance to a tomb, or so we are led to believe. This is the site that Sauniere called the Tomb of Christ (again, according to Douzet).

What do you think? :



For those who may not be familiar, this picture has only been shown at one or two conferences in the past, and then only for a few seconds.

It should also be stated that this picture comes from an unauthorised distribution of video material, some of which is being misrepresented by a German production team. It appeard on another RLC forum earlier today.

Part of the video shows Douzet desending into what appears to be Tomb 2. This footage of the descent has nothing to do with Perillos, I am told, regardless of what the documentary mantains. It's another location - I have been informed; the producers of the film have misrepresented it. True or false, this was communicated to me weeks ago - before the video was illegally released.

Look for a statement from SP shortly.


Andrew

Probably just something CALLED the Tomb of Christ, because of the appearance of a roundish stone blocking the entrance to a cave like in the biblical story. Rather unlikely anyone would actually keep the remains of Jesus in a place that looks just like the Jesus tomb and is exposed to plain view like that.
Maybe as Sauniere's model shows, somebody consciously tried to make the area resemble Jerusalem like King Lalibela did in Ethipoia, as described on the SP website. Obviously Sauniere wouldn't be having a model made of something that was a real secret tomb of Jesus and related locations.

Interesting post JB1717. Patrice Chaplin has stated that the work of the Caballists is aimed at ultimately bringing about some sort of re-manifestation of Christ, through the use of ritual and (for want of a better description) the placing of energy conduits at various strategic sites.

Perillos and it's environs were not familiar to Patrice Chaplin when she was questioned by Douzet/Coppens but is it possible that this "tomb" is essentially empty but intended as a ritual stage prop? I think if this is the case, we need to understand far more about the ancient caballists, their roots, beliefs and how they have been integrated with the "established" religious and political forces of the past centuries.

I'm personally undecided about a lot of the information that has eminated from both Patrice Chaplin and SP but I am excited about the way that certain elements of each strand of research would appear to dove-tail.

As an aside - and this question is for Andrew - are you aware as to why Society Perillos have now decided to release information that has been kept private for so long? I also notice that Douzet is selling copies of his model on the French site. I have my own ideas on this but would be interested to hear what you have to say.

Maybe they would act out the gospel story at certain times of the year and use those places as the stage, so to speak. Probably some sort of rituals being played out. The la Sanch group were apparently into self flagellation, or something like that. Maybe they acted out the passion of Christ as a type of penitence ritual, ending up at the tomb.
I find that other tomb that Douzet found to be interesting. Could very well be the source of Sauniere's treasures. Somebody obviously ransacked it and Sauniere would be the prime suspect. It also explains why nobody found his treasure site near RLC. It was in another village entirely.

I think one should view this image (of poor quality and not originally intended for publication) in conjunction with Douzet's interview, and not engage in wild speculation.

But wild speculation is such fun.

sorry, Philip, to bring up that old old cheese...

htpp://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5g32s ... opoul_tech

the link above seems not to work

I hope this now will:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5g32s ... opoul_tech

it deals with 60 million years old sediments - no tomb of cheese's

but it needs people who speak french to get the message

I speak French as well or better than you do (no southern s**t-kicker accent) and I have yet to see what's so controversial about this nicely geometric geological formation. On another forum, you post with apparent bitterness that no one seems particularly interested. Were you perhaps hoping for something?

Sorry I'm not so familiar with English to understand your joke. Would you please write it down? These word with the 2 dots? I'm curious.
But you got one thing right: My french is bad. When in school, I liked girls more than learning. My mother language is german and I live in western Hungary and on what other forum am I? I don't recall.
What you mean by bitterness? The video is good (not the quality) and the controversion is concerning Mister Douzet's declaration. That's what I wanted to tell. But maybe you can tell better what I wanted to say? Then please don't hesitate to to so ...
I hope you can explain or would you advice me to leave this forum? Dear Roger?


BTW.
Douzet said this rock is 2 meters in diameter. Now on the video the people say it is about half a meter. That's some difference.

more BTW.
I personally like Andre Douzet and met him once in 2004. He is really a friendly person. But still I want to know what it is all about ...

Me neither. Erosion phenomena seems to be a feature throughout the region, which is hardly suprising, given the rocky terrain. My personal favourite would be Les Orgues ("the organs", in English) de Roussillon, near Ile-sur-Tet, not that many miles to the west of Perillos. Now that really is impressive, and a nice place to wander around.

The example under discussion, much less so; merely an interesting geological anomaly; merely water erosion over many millennia. Enough said, surely?

Very nice place indeed. Have been there last month. Came that small road from Galamus. A must!

You're a braver man than I am, in that case, Caglio! The thought of that narrow road and the drop beneath gives me the heebie jeebies! The Orgues are quite lovely, though, as you say.

Stop insulting me, stupid!

I guess that's what we call a delayed reaction?

Roshay
I just gave you time to apologize. I prefer friendly conversation, even if somebody has another opinion on the matter. I've sent you a PN to handle that privately. You ignored it and are obviously not the person who apologizes when he was wrong. You mistook me for another person (as I am on no other english or french forum ... and also not from the south!!) and insulted me. And still you are proud about that. That shows of your low profile and ugly character. Money will not make you happy. You shall drown in it. You will stay frustrated all your life. You shall be frustrated all your life.

Well at least you've got that right. I am and probably always will be very frustrated by the combative ignorance of the "alternative reality" of the pseudo-esoterist revisionists, who love nothing more than to string together incompatible and often contradictory traditions and symbologies into a lovely necklace of aberrant babble.

Of course, with a steady supply of the right hallucinogens, I might find it entertaining rather than frustrating, but that only lasts a moment, doesn't it....

Once the CDS-market has collapsed (what nobody can stop anymore) you won't be that arrogant anymore. You'll be that small that you can creep between the floor and the carpet.

Neither I, nor my clients, have any exposure to CDOs. You may have to re-formulate your ill-wishes in some other more realistic form.

CDS ... I wrote! >>> credit default swap ...
And it will affect you as well as everybody!

Anyway - no more talk with you.
Für mich bist du gestorben!

So tell me, will there ever become a time when you will post anything positive on this forum?

It isn't this

It isn't that.

So how about putting your cards on the table for a change and lets rip the crap out of that.

Or are you chicken?

On another thread you ask Robert N:



To which he would no doubt reply, if he were here, that you are the living atavistic proof of it.

You chafe at my always saying "it isn't this", or "it isn't that" and think of it as negative... I'd say it's positive, in the educational sense, and much needed around here. I can see how you'd be irritated, however, since you're generally wrong in your amalgams of completely unrelated things. As to my posting on theories which I might favour, I'm not here peddling anything or selling a book, or a book project, much less promoting some sectarian Rosi-Crucian nonsense. I'm sorry if my "negativity" has adversely impacted your recruitment efforts as a "guru".

Ah educated to a level of Common Sense I suppose.

But as Albert Einstein said:

"Common sense is a collection of prejudices acquired by the age of eighteen".

Yes well fortunately my higher education didn't include the removal of my ability for independent thought. Most higher education comprises of the automatic regurgitation of facts (in this case merely undisputed evidence) that have passed by the censor.

I am indeed privileged that my whole references to reality are not comprised of how any new data can be shoehorned into the accepted academic canon. That which violates the dogmatic comfort zone of your academia is deemed bogus by virtue of the fact that nobody with whole doctorates based on old data have not thought of it first. By the suppression of this data they will not lose their salaries paid to the positions these tweed suited high priests are now occupying to some new wipper snapper who thinks beyond the carefully constructed envelope.

"It is better to know nothing than to know what ain't so."
Josh Billings
Proverb (1874)
You seem to be in both categories.



In what way Gungadin? I've asked you this question before only to be met by a vision of rapidly receeding heels.



You're not peddling anything and one wonders on preciesely what this religious belief of yours that you appear to be vigorously defending is based upon.

Anyway here's one for you Mr Lingua Franca

What does this mean?

LAS QUÉ PASSOUN TOURNOUN PAS MAÏ

Could we please move on topic please?!
I find it very interesting that this “tomb” is revealed.
Has anybody visited it yet?

Oh yeah, we visited it plenty. It's a round stone about 2 feet across which is part of a natural geologic feature. In other words, it isn't a tomb at all and the "revealing' of it was a hoax by Andre Douzet, who thought nobody would ever figure our what it really was by simply squeezing the image in so it looked oval instead of round and changing the color to yellow instead of its true reddish color. He didn't realize how easy it is to pull the image back out so it's round again and perfectly matches the known geologic feature, which is far too small to be a tomb entrance.