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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2011 12:59 am 
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Don't be shy TCP, I had also read you, Steven and Robin Crookshank-Hilton are the new triumverate of the Preurie de Sion. :lol:


We were, but they threw us out for giggling too much. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2011 1:05 am 
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Pilrig wrote:
I checked the opening line of the quote on Google. It's some geezer called Tim Rifat, sounds like a real fun guy. :roll:


And no, he isn't me.

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Oh and he's a lord as well. Wonder if he's a regular attender at the House of Lords ?


Ever noticed how so many vampire wannabes call themselves "Lord" Somethingorther?

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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2011 1:12 am 
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Pilrig, Tim Rifat a geopolitical analyst on military, economic etc... the Magus thing is just smoke and mirrors for the unilluminated. His predictions are just a by-word for systems analysis.
The most you will know is it deals very heavily in "weapons" and "information" technology.


Ah, well he must be friendly with Stephen Crouch "Plantard de Saint-Clair" and Steve Nimmons then. Armed police forces worldwide are being privatized, you know. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
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TCP wrote:
rain wrote:
Pilrig, Tim Rifat a geopolitical analyst on military, economic etc... the Magus thing is just smoke and mirrors for the unilluminated. His predictions are just a by-word for systems analysis.
The most you will know is it deals very heavily in "weapons" and "information" technology.


Ah, well he must be friendly with Stephen Crouch "Plantard de Saint-Clair" and Steve Nimmons then. Armed police forces worldwide are being privatized, you know. :wink:

TCP


He's definitely privatised now, he seems quite sulky at his ex-employers.

*Just checked again - you're right TCP - slips in a bit about specific mining and resources - this would be a reference to dirty weapons and sandline type military mining.

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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2011 2:52 am 
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I went straight to Ipsissimus in 1986. At the time I thought it was my natural talent. Only years later did I realise I had been set up by the Dark God, called many names, Yaltabaoth... to be elevated above all others so I could be sacrificed


Found out he had working for the very people he thought he opposed. A russian doll scenario and Hansel plumbed up in the cage ready for sacrifice in the ginger bread house. Yaltabaoth and luciferian two sides of the same coin.


* Yaltabaoth may mean the 'Central Office of Information'.

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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2011 9:20 pm 
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TCP wrote:
rain wrote:
Pilrig, Tim Rifat a geopolitical analyst on military, economic etc... the Magus thing is just smoke and mirrors for the unilluminated. His predictions are just a by-word for systems analysis.
The most you will know is it deals very heavily in "weapons" and "information" technology.


Ah, well he must be friendly with Stephen Crouch "Plantard de Saint-Clair" and Steve Nimmons then. Armed police forces worldwide are being privatized, you know. :wink:

TCP


As are governments vid. Greece and Italy. It's all falling into place. No I'm not a conspiracy theorist just a cynical auld b*st*rd.

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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2011 9:35 pm 
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Now back to Monsieur Chaumeil. I've finished his tome, and I have to admit it was a good read. How far the translation strayed from the original French, I'd have to leave to you Francophones. I particularly liked the section of Circuit: isn't about time somebody was kind enough to translate it into English (or even better Scots :wink: ). So much so I keep thinking of RLB, surely the source of the mysteries, indeed thanks to the Circuit segment I've went back to Sandy's Abbe Delmas thread. I've looked at my pictures of that cross and the wall behind it, and thought "Naw, nobody excavated that in 1987". I mean they'ed have to cement the hole the next day...and even Stevie Wonder would notice that ! Nope, if there was an excavation it would be from the top - it's wooded but even then the occupants of the neighbouring hotel would see what was going on.

Now a couple of questions; RLB, I see on Google Earth there's a large modern building on the east side of the town - you can't see it from the main drag - it looks like council offices or a hospital from above - what is it ?

Actually there was another question or two about the final chapter,which consists of an unnamed letter to Chaumeil, but I'm a bit tired and leave observations and questions for another day.


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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2011 10:10 pm 
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Pilrig wrote:
As are governments vid. Greece and Italy. It's all falling into place. No I'm not a conspiracy theorist just a cynical auld b*st*rd.


You're not cynical Pilrig, just the opposite, you're a sweet auld b*st*rd. You still have faith in a lot of things and you can see the beauty of the landscape of RLC and it surrounds despite everything.

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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 22 Nov 2011 7:07 pm 
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The high Aude valley and surrounding area, in a word - seductive. That said, it'll be a wild and windy place during winter, add to that wild beasties in the woodlands (wild boar) and there is a dark, nocturnal side: I read that Elizabeth van Buren put trip wires round her house at La Labadous - I doubt that was for wild boar. For all that, if I get the lottery up me and Mrs 'P' will be residing in Couiza toot suit !


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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 22 Nov 2011 8:40 pm 
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Nobody answered my previous query about the large modern building on the east side of the village - anybody ?

Well back to J-L C and the anonymous letter on page 236 entitled Les Ailes De La Jounnnes; Have to say history aint this unknown guy's strong suit as he claims Priscillian was burnt alive - in actual fact he was beheaded ! To my query, the guy mentions a convent at Jaffus "on the plateau between Rennes-le-Chateau and Rennes-les-Baines".

Was there a convent at Jaffus ? Here I must admit I've never been to Jaffus or up that road to it from RLC so I'm entirely ignorant about this Jaffus. Hmm... puts me in mind of the suggestion that there was an ecclesiastic building near Coume Sourde...but then Coume Sourde's well to the south of Jaffus.


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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
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Pilrig wrote:
... RLB, I see on Google Earth there's a large modern building on the east side of the town - you can't see it from the main drag - it looks like council offices or a hospital from above - what is it?


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Nobody answered my previous query about the large modern building on the east side of the village - anybody?


Now you've got me staring at it!

Council offices would be in that quite grand building on the main drag, I would think, and the nearest hospital is in Limoux. Doesn't look like housing; not enough car parking for a retail park. Some kind of light industrial park, or similar, like a "Zone Industrielle" or "Zone Artisanale", like you see on road signs? That said, a Google search isn't showing either of those things in the vicinity of Rennes les Bains.

On the west side of the site there is what looks to be some kind of landscape bund, presumably made from the excavated soil and spoil when they built the development, which looks quite new.

:? Really don't know, sorry. :?


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PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011 1:15 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011 2:55 pm 
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It's the 40 bed extension to the thermal/rehab establishment.

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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
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L’Association Audoise Sociale et Médicale (A.S.M.), qui a succédé à la congrégation Saint Joseph de Cluny en 1978, est une association loi 1901. Elle a pour objet de créer, d’administrer et de gérer tout établissement ou service à caractère sanitaire, social ou médico-social.

Pour ses activités de psychiatrie et personnes âgées, l’ASM. est un établissement de santé participant au service public hospitalier, ce qui lui confère exactement les mêmes missions que l’hôpital public.

Ces missions se caractérisent par la permanence des soins 24h/24h et 365 jours par an, ainsi que par l’accueil de tous. Ces valeurs sont d’autant plus importantes que la participation au service public est un choix volontaire des fondateurs de l’Association.

L’ASM propose ainsi une offre de soins pour la psychiatrie adulte en unités d’hospitalisation sectorielles et intersectorielles et en structures d’activités extrahospitalières ; pour la psychiatrie infanto-juvénile en unités d’hospitalisation sectorielles de jour et complète et en structures d’activités extrahospitalières ; enfin pour les personnes âgées en Service de Soins Longue Durée, en EHPAD, en Service de Soins et Réadaptation et en hôpital de jour.

http://www.asm11.fr/article.php3?id_article=59


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It's the 40 bed extension to the thermal/rehab establishment.


Thanks. Makes perfect sense, in the circumstances.


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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
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A medical centre ? Thought so. Well that's ONE mystery solved, thanks !


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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
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...slightly more than a medical centre guys....did you not read it.


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...slightly more than a medical centre guys....did you not read it.


Only the quote you posted, not the link, which I've now looked at. Medical centre caring for those with special needs, and the elderly, with a number of facilities in the region, including one in RLB, and several close by in Couiza, Quillan, Mouthoumet; combined total of around 900 bed spaces; headquarters in Limoux, where there is also another facility; some historic antecedents connecting it with the religious order of St Joseph de Cluny; strong public service ethos and mission, etc.

I see they've called the RLB facility La Terrasse du Cardou, which seems an appropriate name.


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...slightly more than a medical centre guys....did you not read it.


Only the quote you posted, not the link, which I've now looked at. Medical centre caring for those with special needs, and the elderly, with a number of facilities in the region, including one in RLB, and several close by in Couiza, Quillan, Mouthoumet; combined total of around 900 bed spaces; headquarters in Limoux, where there is also another facility; some historic antecedents connecting it with the religious order of St Joseph de Cluny; strong public service ethos and mission, etc.

I see they've called the RLB facility La Terrasse du Cardou, which seems an appropriate name.


I'm not sure about the translation but it seems to be specifically psychiatric needs in the young and long-term elderly with ongoing special needs - it's difficult because it's not translated and frankly it's specialised medical terminology. There's a reason why you need to be specific when it comes to defining medical care and even with a translation I'd really only trust rs2008 to provide a comprehensive explanation.

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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
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...slightly more than a medical centre guys....did you not read it.


Well it was in French... :oops:


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That's it ! I'm gaunnie learn bloody French !


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 Post subject: Re: Chaumeil's PoS book queries.
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From the word Amor (Love) of the marchioness he went readily to the word Mort (Death), then to Mort Epee (Dead Sword), the authentic sword of the last knights after they found Excalibur.

He stared wide-eyed at the tomb of Father Gelis, renovated on this 17th January 2006, proof that researchers have a heart and a certain talent for their quest for the Grail. He started to believe in humankind. A cold and dry wind titillated his cheeks as he dozed in front of the town hall of old Coustaussa, the guardian of the secrets of the Haut-Razes.
He was woken up by a quarrel between the watchmen of the Parchments: he smiled mischeviously thinking that the past was indeed for tomorrow.

Advance, advance on the path of the Custode, master blackmailers, authors of hope sheets, intoxicated by the little tricks of the Devil and his laments for past times."

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I presume Chaumeil is writing about himself here ? I suspect it is an analogy. And town hall of old Coustauassa, is there such a building ? or more likely considering the size of that village, somebody's garden shed ?!


To the priest of Coustaussa….The Custode :D
By de Cherisey i think?

In the primary sense, the custode is a heavy hanging of crimson and gold which one draws around the royal bed. The evening of the marriage a torch hung at the top of the bed lights it like a scene of theatre. In the same manner that the red and yellow sil gives by fusion the alabaster and the rock crystal, the custode becomes a transparent muslin. The courtiers who make a circle in the shadow see the royal marriage and note that there is blood on the sheet. A derived meaning presents the custode as a curtain drawn in front of the altar at the moment of elevation, and also behind the altar when the penitents will be stripped there with the invitation of Jesus on the cross to go down again naked towards the baptismal font.
In the second sense, one will call custode the container of the sacred bread. This coffer was presented very early in the form of a model of the sacred building, a small church in the large one. As one passed from the Roman to the Gothic the small windows of the custode increased and the opaque custode became the transparent monstrance which starting
from 14th century does not have the any more shape of a church but of the sun presented to the faithful at the time of the Corpus Christi. Custode then takes the more precise direction of a gold-ringed crystal monocle. Here passes the glance of God and the faithful one does not know any more very well if he must contemplate the sunlight or lower the eyes by
fear of the dazzling. The eyelid bends down like black goggles, like a filter of night. Custode became also this tent with eight sides, an octopus with the eight tentacles, which recovers the ciborium.
The name of custode is more familiar to us when it indicates the case, the sheath, the sleeve of a naked sword. When the knight finishes this daemon of the guardian he puts his weapon there. By limitation the custode came from there to indicate the small shield which separates the blade from the hand.
A limited enough use of the word custode indicates the guardian of a treasure or a tradition. Saint Antony of Padua “agent of the secret letters” was thus custode of the Limousin at the time that he lived in France. Cresambene, at the end of the 17th century, having based the Academy of Arcadians on a college of fourteen shepherds was the treasurer-custode. Custode is a word which shows how the secrets are kept by their obviousness better than in the darkness.


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 Post subject: The Priory of Sion - English translation
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Currently Chaumeil's book in the English translation is available on amazon for the Kindle at £3.30, while the print version is £19.99.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Priory-Sion ... 755&sr=1-2

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