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a French priest speaking in French would use the word Colza, from the Dutch koolzaad. If he spoke Occitan he would have said Colzà.....If he spoke Latin he would have called it Brassica napus . Rapeseed is an English word derived from the Latin for turnip, rāpa or rāpum.

However, any trade in colza oil would probably be the other way around, with Saunière trading it down from the North of the country...another interesting connection with the area around Lille.


En France, la production d'huile de colza a pris une grande importance dans les années 1750-1850 dans les départements du nord de la France et notamment en Flandre. Les Statistique du département du Nord du préfet Dieudonné montrent que la culture du colza s'étend alors dans le nord : « Le colza est celle de ces plantes qui est cultivée le plus généralement et avec le plus d’abondance dans les arrondissements de Lille, Hazebrouck et Douai."

« la Flandre est la contrée du monde où la culture des plantes oléagineuses et la fabrication de l’huile ont pris, depuis longtemps, le plus d’extension, et ont fait le plus de progrès. On compte autour de Lille, près de deux cents moulins à huile, appelés tordoirs, que le vent fait mouvoir et depuis 1814 on établit chaque année, des machines à vapeur destinées au même usage »

Hi,

It has long puzzled me why some people think that a bloodline descended from Jesus would constitute 'incontrovertible' proof that Jesus a mere mortal! As far as I can see, a bloodline line descended from Jesus has no real implications as far as the broad Catholic statement of faith is concerned.

However... 'incontrovertible' proof that Jesus was the bastard son of a Roman...does that have implications...

What an interesting narrative that could be

Regards,

Spartacus

"selon Chaumeil, Saunière à un fructueux négoce d'huile de Colza"

according to Chaumeil, Saunière was a "profitable Colza oil trader".

Oh really....


Il faut entre 3 et 4 kilos de graines pour faire un litre d'huile de colza ...et un Pressoir.

so.... (according to rapeseed monthly) to make a litre of rapeseed oil you need 3 to 4 kilos of seed...and a press to extract the oil.

....there's something else going on here dontcha think

There is a Pressoir at Rennes le Château at the original old church i believe......but in a bizarre Lovuian kind of way i find myself back at... Gethsémani (Gat-Shémanîm) = pressoir à huile ......“Gethsemane” which means “oil press”.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressoir_mystique

....and let's not forget Louis de Coma and his l’Oeuvre de Gethsemane ....Louis de Coma, the man who set the standard for priests behaving strangely.






so if we are going to be wandering down blind-alleys (and admit it, we do it a lot), i'd at least like to make the detour interesting

What would interest me is some convincing information on how each of these persons is connected to or in touch with the prieure de sion. At least we know Chaumeil, Sandri, etc. were in contact with the inventors. And still we know they cannot be trusted to tell the truth. With the above persons, it is even worse.

I recently ran across a throwaway quote on Tracy Twynan's Liberty Cap Press page that caused me some pause:

"...as Mr. Haywood so graciously granted me an interview. It was conducted shortly after his return from attending the royal wedding of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge (Prince William and Kate Middleton) as a General Guest..."

Hmmm.

RAPE SEED - Geddit?

What would interest me is some convincing information on how each of these persons is connected to or in touch with the prieure de sion.

Didn't Nick Haywood and amigos turn up at a meeting of the Rennes Society wearing PoS badges ? There you go !

You have to love secret societies, with all their subtlety and discretion...

TCP

As a "general guest" - I suppose so that if anyone bothered to check the guest list he'd have cover for why his name isn't listed, as though there was a section set aside in the abbey for non-entities.

Reminds me of people who show up for weekly public Papal audiences, have a companion snap a photo as the Pope passes by, and then use it as proof of having been "received" by the Pope in the Vatican.

TCP

Nicholas Hayward is the adopted son of the one of Prince Charles' personal assistant - now passed. I forget his name TCP.

Incorrect. Sir Harold Haywood served as a youth advisory director for The Prince's Trust and national chairman for the YMCA in Britain. He was never employed as a member of the Prince's staff or household.

TCP

Haywood was from Burton upon Trent, in Staffordshire. He was knighted in 1988. He was the first Chairman of the ACF (Association of Charitable Foundations) and a lay minister in the Methodist Church. Before he died, he organized and raised funds for a huge "multi-faith center".

His adopted son appears to be quite undistinguished.

Edward Wightman from Burton upon Trent was executed by burning in the Market Place on 11 April 1612 for his activities promoting himself as the divine Paraclete and Savior of the world.

Haywood was from Burton upon Trent, in Staffordshire. He was knighted in 1988. He was the first Chairman of the ACF (Association of Charitable Foundations) and a lay minister in the Methodist Church. Before he died, he organized and raised funds for a huge "multi-faith center".

His adopted son appears to be quite undistinguished.

It would appear that he has convinced the book store clerk who, in turn, convinced the film director. And of course, certains jupons de ce forum aussi.

"He whose name must never be mentioned" currently lives in Burton-on-Trent as well. I wonder if they're neighbors?

And how can you say Mr. Haywood is undistinguished? Why, he's a certified hypotherapist who earned his certificate right here in California!

One has to wonder if, because of his "training", he thinks he's convincing.

TCP

Yep, Paul Smith owner of the Priory of Sion.com...and Nicholas Haywood, spokesman for the Priory of Sion both from Burton-on-Trent...seems that town is a hot bed for the Priory

And of course it's in Staffordshire, county of the Shugborough Hall and the Shepherds' Monument..... curiouser and curiouser....

Is that the town/county where Staffies come from - the dog I mean?

In Holy Blood Holy Grail PLANTARD claimed that the key to the mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau was that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married and had children.

Is that the town/county where Staffies come from - the dog I mean?