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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2011 3:12 pm 
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so, apart from spreading the word...what do we do Roscoe...how do you stop youngsters from joining the armed forced to "fight for their country"...how do we get people to refuse to be hoodwinked by the arms manufacturers and the war mongering they produce.
We need to stand up and be counted before it gets too late...we need a global plan.


I'm just going through Rogue Agents and Cercle Pinay complex and I'm just wondering do you have any idea what you're up against, any idea, indeed any idea at all of the kind of power strutures that are assured under the premise that we commoners are a bunch of "sheeple"?

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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Hi rain, yes i understand what you are saying, but i think i'm one of the few that realise that even i (who thinks she knows how bad things actually are) cannot possibly plumb the depths of their wickedness and machinations.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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DO SOMETHING THERE'S AN EXAMPLE RIGHT AT THE END OF THIS

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2011 10:09 pm 
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..how do we get people to refuse to be hoodwinked by the arms manufacturers and the war mongering they produce.


It doesn't help when after the Egyptian people toppled Mubarak, our glorious PM, "Call me Dave", flew into Cairo with a bunch of arms dealers in tow. As Dave sez "We're all in this together !"
Oh someone mentioned a Fox News Reader above, what about the owner of Fox News, about to get his ****s kicked by a parliamentary commission. Heh heh heh :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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Don't you feel revolution is in the air

I do

the American Empire is disintegrating

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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you just don't listen to a word anyone says do you? You never address any observations in a respectfull way. Do you want people to listen to you? Do you want to spread the information you have (or rather have read)? Or does your ego just want everyone to concede you are correct? This is the whole paradox about people like you in this field. They claim to want to educate people about (their) truth but they never do it in a way that encourages people to listen. All anyone sees is a nutter jumping up and down screaming. I'll let you have the last word that your ego so desperately requires but I can tell you all the info you post (whether valid or not) is lost due to your childish attitude if anyone questions you. You may do well to have a long hard look at that, but I guess you don't ever see yourself doing anything wrong.



What bloody observations would they be? You don't make any.

Here do this for me.

Show me ANY evidence which indicates that the official story is true.

ANY EVIDENCE

The floor is yours, off you go.

Warning! It may get challenged.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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Don't you feel revolution is in the air

I do

the American Empire is disintegrating


yes i agree....but people need to get angry, really angry...we need to REFUSE to be part of their plan....we need to teach the younger generation so that there is an alternative to them joining the armed forces...at the moment a lot of kids join up to get away from home, to get off the street, to play their video games for real...to fulfill their need for a "right of passage" and to see the world.
We need to refuse to believe the media, and we need to question everything these days...there is a conspiracy and most people haven't got a clue what is going down, because everything they read has been fabricated by the media moguls.

If everyone took their money out of the banks and invested it ethically...for example in the Ecology Building Society, le NEF and American equivalents...it is your money that is invested in arms manufacturing whether you want it or not.

Refuse to buy and eat rubbish...boycott McDonalds & the american/globalisation of eating habits...grow your own, eat local produce - take the power away from Wallmart et al...plant vegetables on your front patch, dig up the lawn and put in tomatoes, peppers,courgettes (well maybe not courgettes)....REFUSE the packaging that comes with your monthly shop...leave the packaging behind at the check-out ...they'll get the message eventually and cut back on the wastage.

If everyone stopped taking flights for just a week...no aeroplanes for a week...no flights...then maybe they will stop building & expanding airports...remember it is supply & demand...it's you people that drive cars, take trains, fly from A to B that are polluting the skies and changing the weather (don't get me started).

Turn off the television...get on your computers and read the alternative news pages, write letters!

If we want to get mad about something let's start with young Bradley Manning...Tell the world about this young man who is still incarcerated after well over a year..because he blew the whistle on war criminals! Blowing the whistle is not a crime. Let's get angry and Free Bradley Manning for starters and then take it from there.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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Sheila wrote:
lovuian wrote:
Don't you feel revolution is in the air

I do

the American Empire is disintegrating


yes i agree....but people need to get angry, really angry...we need to REFUSE to be part of their plan....we need to teach the younger generation so that there is an alternative to them joining the armed forces...at the moment a lot of kids join up to get away from home, to get off the street, to play their video games for real...to fulfill their need for a "right of passage" and to see the world.
We need to refuse to believe the media, and we need to question everything these days...there is a conspiracy and most people haven't got a clue what is going down, because everything they read has been fabricated by the media moguls.

If everyone took their money out of the banks and invested it ethically...for example in the Ecology Building Society, le NEF and American equivalents...it is your money that is invested in arms manufacturing whether you want it or not.

Refuse to buy and eat rubbish...boycott McDonalds & the american/globalisation of eating habits...grow your own, eat local produce - take the power away from Wallmart et al...plant vegetables on your front patch, dig up the lawn and put in tomatoes, peppers,courgettes (well maybe not courgettes)....REFUSE the packaging that comes with your monthly shop...leave the packaging behind at the check-out ...they'll get the message eventually and cut back on the wastage.

If everyone stopped taking flights for just a week...no aeroplanes for a week...no flights...then maybe they will stop building & expanding airports...remember it is supply & demand...it's you people that drive cars, take trains, fly from A to B that are polluting the skies and changing the weather (don't get me started).

Turn off the television...get on your computers and read the alternative news pages, write letters!

If we want to get mad about something let's start with young Bradley Manning...Tell the world about this young man who is still incarcerated after well over a year..because he blew the whistle on war criminals! Blowing the whistle is not a crime. Let's get angry and Free Bradley Manning for starters and then take it from there.


That's it.

Get mad

Get in their faces

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2011 7:43 am 
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We, the people, need to act together before it's too late.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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Sheila wrote:
We, the people, need to act together before it's too late.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sav6RBFrZc&feature=related

Watch until the end...That final picture is perfect...

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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Thank you, that is brilliant...spread the word...

Live Simply..so that other may Simply Live.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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Sheila wrote:
Thank you, that is brilliant...spread the word...

Live Simply..so that other may Simply Live.


You're welcome, Sheila and you're right. Spread the word. I'm sure the smug amongst us will dismiss us as idiot hippy throwbacks...but:

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Live Simply

so others may

Simply Live


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In this democracy, the Government is elect by us, the people, to represent us, the people, in our best interests, on a national and international scale, and if they are not doing so, I, as a citizen, reserve the right to rise up...


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I will not bend or play their games, I will stand tall with a full frame, I will take pride, I will stake a claim...


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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/0 ... -lamo-logs

He knew full well that he ran the risk of being incarcerated..and he knew he might even be executed...yet he still did it. What he read and saw was too big and too wicked to just walk on by...this kid blew the whistle.
Bradley Manning is a hero of our time.

and big bad America is going to make him pay....what are we going to do about it?


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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yes Manning is a hero
and he has been tortured

Who would ever think that America would allow Torture?

Bush proudly admits it
It makes me sick
We are watching the Earth's children dying and on their way to extinction
It makes me sick



The Awakening has Begun and the people all over the world are rising up

When I went to listen to the Dalai Llama, he foretold this event and
I can only convey the peace and hope he gave to me and others
Know this Truth evil is a terrible force but it's power dies quickly

We are seeing evil weakening and dying
thing is the Dalai Llama says it does bring terrible suffering and sadness

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2011 11:27 pm 
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Sheila wrote:
...it's you people that drive cars,


Ever tried carrying heavy toolbags on a bus ? Get real. Stop taking a flight a week ? Christ, I get on one flight PER YEAR !

As I've said before I'll give up my lifestyle when the likes of Al Gore give up theirs.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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lovuian wrote:
yes Manning is a hero
and he has been tortured

Who would ever think that America would allow Torture?

Bush proudly admits it
It makes me sick
We are watching the Earth's children dying and on their way to extinction
It makes me sick



The Awakening has Begun and the people all over the world are rising up

When I went to listen to the Dalai Llama, he foretold this event and
I can only convey the peace and hope he gave to me and others
Know this Truth evil is a terrible force but it's power dies quickly

We are seeing evil weakening and dying
thing is the Dalai Llama says it does bring terrible suffering and sadness


Remember that without Manning we wouldn't have known about this. Even the Nazis didn't do this.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2011 7:40 am 
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Pilrig wrote:
Sheila wrote:
...it's you people that drive cars,


Ever tried carrying heavy toolbags on a bus ? Get real. Stop taking a flight a week ? Christ, I get on one flight PER YEAR !

As I've said before I'll give up my lifestyle when the likes of Al Gore give up theirs.


hmm..and there's a prime example of the voice of the people.."ahm no helpin' oot cos it's no fair, an' i didnae start it, he did...so it's no ma faut and ahm no interested"


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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Sheila wrote:
Pilrig wrote:
Sheila wrote:
...it's you people that drive cars,


Ever tried carrying heavy toolbags on a bus ? Get real. Stop taking a flight a week ? Christ, I get on one flight PER YEAR !

As I've said before I'll give up my lifestyle when the likes of Al Gore give up theirs.


hmm..and there's a prime example of the voice of the people.."ahm no helpin' oot cos it's no fair, an' i didnae start it, he did...so it's no ma faut and ahm no interested"


well it's no' my fault, and I'm afraid I'd addicted to the pleasures o' modern livin' (traffic wardens aside - get thee behind me, Satans !).

Oh and I do help oot - via income tax !


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2011 11:31 am 
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The People's problem in a nutshell....total indifference/apathy.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2011 12:02 pm 
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Sheila wrote:
The People's problem in a nutshell....total indifference/apathy.


Wll not total indifference from me as much as cynicism:the likes of Al Gore and his appalling wife can globetrot the world and live high on the hogs, whilst attempts are made to brow-beat peasants such as I into thinkin' we're unworthy of foreign holidays or driving cars. Wen the Gores of the world start wearing hair shirts so will I (actually I ****in' well wont !)


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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BTW Sheila , as regards the great and the good: the French had the right idea in 1789.


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what...the bloodthirsty crazed-mob sort of thing... and the guillotining of innocent women ! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2011 3:28 pm 
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what...the bloodthirsty crazed-mob sort of thing... and the guillotining of innocent women ! :shock:


Vive l' Ancien Regime I suppose.

The English had their chance after the execution of Charles I , but one set of power-mad loonies was replaced by another vid the suppression of the Leveller communities.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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Anyway, there's more important matters than politics at the moment, such as the Open Championship which I'm off to watch on the box just now. Toodle pip !


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse Ventura
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or the women's world cup tomorrow

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