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I've read that Sauniere discovered several scrolls under the Dalles Des Chevaliers" located in front of the altar.

One of the scrolls is said to be a geneology of Jesus Christ and outlines his ancestors, including the Counts of Rhedae, until 1244.

Is this correct?

Is a copy of the scroll on the net somewhere?

What is really funny is that you're serious...

Regards,

Spartacus

Afraid I am SP - is it a dumb question? - please explain the reason for your mirth.

Its not quite correct what youre reporting Hot.

Where did you read this?

Its not a scroll, its alleged to be a parchment ... one of 4 or 5 that Sauniere was said to have found ... and not geneaologies of the family of Jesus ....

And their finding had nothing to do with the Knights stone ...

They were suppose to be genealogies - dated to 1244 and 1644.

1244 should immediatly ring a bell.

Other priory documents suggest these parchments are connected to Blanche of Castille who bartered for them at the fall of Montsegur ....there is so much talk about these, but alas no-one has seen them. Although i did publish in an old Rhedeisum an alleged copy - i'll see if i can find it and put it here ...

Here is one of them ... cant remember where i got this - i think from a book Vazart gave me ...

If you look carefully you can see the seal of Blanche of Castille

Sorry BdA, not even a tinkling heard.

Wiki says this:

-The Cathars of Montségur surrender after a 9-month siege.

-Siege and Fall of Jerusalem leading to the Seventh Crusade

Thanks for this.

I guess typewriters must have been invented in the 1700s instead of the 1800s.

guess typewriters must have been invented in the 1700s instead of the 1800s.

My god, you were not expecting a copy of the real thing were you?

Next, you will be asking for the 'real' coded parchments that Bigou composed, instead of the copies we have ...

Some researchers are so bloody demanding ....

I don't know that I qualify as a researcher just yet - more like a scratcher.

Why would someone go to the trouble of typing it out on a piece of paper with the BoC watermark on it?

Why would someone go to the trouble of typing it out on a piece of paper with the BoC watermark on it?

No clue.

To impart a message?
To get you to read between the lines in the context of the 'story'?
To look at a perceived bigger picture around the activities of Sauniere?
To have a laugh with us?
To draw attention to the House Of Hautpoul -

who knows?

I'll see if i can dig out the other document too .....the earlier one ...not sure if i have that one ...

Hotspur wrote:



What about an 'itcher'? Can someone be an 'itcher'?

Regards,

Spartacus

Oooh! You haven't got flees have you SP?

When I get flees I rub myself down with a splash of Knockando - of course, followed by the obilgatory slug or two.

Hotspur wrote:



As I think you are well aware, I was referring to you, sir. You IMHO are an 'itcher' rather than a 'scratcher'...perhaps I am wrong...time will tell...

Regards,

Spartacus

Please have a look. I would appreciate it as I haven't seen it yet.

Was there nothing found under this stone?

Itcher, scratcher, what the heck - nothing a slug of the ol' Knockando couldn't cure.

I don't think that's a watermark, it's a page reproduced from a book and what you're seeing appears on the reverse side of the page, complete with verbiage.

TCP

I wonder why they wouldn't use a genealogy of actual Hautpouls then? This info looks nothing like an Hautpoul genealogy, and everything like the one Pierre Plantard's uncle rigged up for their family in the 1930s.

TCP

Sandy


Interesting and I noticed in the genealogy was the name
Marie de Saint Claire sur Epte

it's a grail name

In 911 AD, the village of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte, in France, saw the signing of a Treaty between the French and the Vikings which created the Duchy of Normandy. The newly-created Norman Dukes then entrusted this wild region to a younger branch of their family: Walderne (1006-1047), Duke Richard II's nephew, is the first recorded Lord of Saint-Clair.

When Richilde, daughter of Henry the Holy and sister of Henry II, married the French nobleman Robert de Chaumont (1134-1174), the estate of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte became her dowry.


and just looking at the stained glass windows of Saint Louis's life ....there is one where he is touching the sick and dying
One wonders did he think he could heal the sick
where did he come up with that idea

I've never understood the rationale behind that claim. The Hautpouls wouldn't acquire RLC for another two centuries and what interest the Queen may have had in the family has never been rationally explained.

TCP

I'm all ears too
I have a theory but lets here the one out there

I've never understood the rationale behind that claim. The Hautpouls wouldn't acquire RLC for another two centuries and what interest the Queen may have had in the family has never been rationally explained.

Hi TCP,

I'll dig out a manuscript of Vazarts sent to me.

It details it all in there. Again, i suspect much Priory 'mythology' ...

March 16, 1244; The fall of Montsegur

marking the symbolic end of the Cathars

the Priory mythology and Blanche Castile ....now that is interesting

Blanche was quite a gal beautiful religious and well taught by Grandma Eleanor

Its a pretty thing