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well Paddy i think you've found the D574, that'll keep me quiet and it just about on the Meridien, i'll need to zoom into Geoportail and see exactly where it falls on the road.

The wee St Martial i found is just before Ceignac at 23° 31' 52" E ..... 44° 16' 13" E




scan courtesy of Sandy.

thank you SP...i can hear the pages rustling as we speak.

can some one give me the exact meridien coordinates again please, is it 2° 20' 14.025" ?

...because it looks to me as if it falls rather nicely/exactly on the church at St Martial itself, just where the D574 joins the RN88.

the Viaduct isn't but the church at St Martial is....unless my Méridien is out.

btw...i notice that the RD 574 stops at the viaduct and goes no further....and that the end of the viaduct is right next to the hotel.

http://www.hotelviaducduviaur.com/

And doesn't it seem strange that it suddenly is midnight and Roseline falls asleep in that short distance between the cutoff and the hotel?

ah, but things are not what they seem.
and yes, it's on the same Méridien as St Hilaire, St Polycarpe, Peyrolles, Serres, RLB, Sougraigne, Bugarach.

Hi,





Isn't there another version of the Roseline 'death'?




Regards,

Spartacus

and like St Denis and his 2 companions who were sent to "evangelise" Paris,a story that needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt..St Martial was sent to Limoges (poor chap, he got the short straw) along with his two wee oriental type priest cohorts to do a bit of converting of the masses to the true faith.
Sent into Gaul by St. Peter himself he is said to have evangelised not only the Province of Limoges but all Aquitaine. He performed many miracles, among others the raising of a dead man to life, by touching him with a rod that St. Peter had given him. ...oh now you're talking!

The legendary Martial appears with many miracles, casting out fiends and raising the dead and encouraging mass baptisms.



@SP...she died a few times that poor lass....but PdC had hope in what he was searching for.

The thing that gets me about J-L C is, does he actually believe that PdC was speaking literally about things like "dear Roseline" for instance. Or is he just trying to direct the attention away from PdC's writings? I know Roscoe thinks he is some kind of "dis-info agent". On one hand he says that PdC is a surrealist and all his writings etc were some kind of joke, then the next minute tries to make people believe that really he was talking about his girlfriend ( the story of whom is even more bizarre ). I don't understand J-L C's viewpoint, it doesn't tie up. We know PdC "coded" most of his work and he shouldn't be taken on face value, he certainly was a clever chap! As Sheila so rightly says "things are not what they seem".

Exactly what I was thinking Roger.
Regards
Nic

Fair enough, I can't think of much he has added to the research except for wild goose chases anyway.
Regards
Nic

hi guys,i don't know anything about Chaumeil i'm chatting about the Crosse "épiscopale" de St Martial.

Yep sorry Sheila. Thanks as well Paddy for the Circuit translation.
A lime tree is mentioned in the accident, why would PdC be so specific? Personally I think the whole story is just another way of fixating the Méridien / Rose Ligne into the story. Is that not possibly the reason that St Martial is linked?
Regards
Nic

Even the fire truck appearing just as she's swerving has an odd quality to it...

St Martial is connected to the Resurrection and Transfiguration....(6th August)

Hmmm, seat of an illicit papacy...

TCP

The statue in the Sanctuary is made out of Tilleul...

Au XIIIe s., on installa une statue, taillée dans du bois de tilleul, qui représentrait la Sainte Vierge présentant son Fils.

http://regard-et-regain.pagesperso-oran ... eignac.htm

...i'm lost....or invisible.

How can an exception confirm a rule?

can you remind me where i got sidetracked please...i can't remember, i've been down far too many wee roads today.

did i take a wrong turn sometime this morning, sometime this afternoon, sometime last week?

Actually I believe this is the original ND de Ceignac (or rather a copy of the lost original):



TCP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Martial


The abbaye de Saint-Martial, one of the great pilgrimage churches of western Christianity, was so thoroughly razed in the 19th century, that only the scattered manuscripts of its library remain. Some of the abbey's library had been bought for Louis XV and have come to the Bibliothèque Nationale de France.

Any ideas why it was razed?


The mythology culminated in the 11th century forgeries of Ademar of Chabannes, The Life of St. Martial, attributed to Bishop Aurelian, his successor, which was designed to 'prove' that Martial had been present at the Last Supper and at the crucifixion, and was indeed one of the original apostles.

The saint was evidently the subject of a scam himself.

That would be a rather strange and pointless exercise, wouldn't it? Though I've yet to hear of anyone ever suggesting such a thing - have you, Roger?

TCP

There was an entire private society involved (Girona) and their purposes were

not of this world.

Of itself it cannot confirm a rule.

The exception has to be quite clearly defined as an exception - which verges on begging the question.