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Introduction - the Maranatha Puzzle and the Great Truth about His(s)tory …

First I want to say hello the all the members on this Andrew Gough Arcadia forum and apologize if my English is not always what it should be because its not my native language… Instead of publishing what WE (Brotherhood of The Bees) know about the Real Secrets in History in a free downloadable E-Book as was our first intention on another forum (Tweleve) we fell on this Andrew Gough ARCADIA website… We liked very much the research Andrew Gough has done on many topics such as RLC and especially on BEES …
You will understand why WE choose Andrew and asked him to be(e) our partner and give him an exclusive interview in due time about our Knowledge so he can investigate and publish what he likes … WE will stay anonymous and in the background, as humble bees …

Some of you may have heard about “The Maranatha – et in Arcadia Ego” Puzzle Book …
A group of 9 - scolars (?) and priests – say they did unlock (some 15 years ago) the greatest treasure known to history… and they designed that coded puzzle book….for reasons that stay unclear to me… I quote from the back of the book : “To some that treasure is called Nicolas Flamel’s Philosopher’s Stone but to most it is called the “Holy Grail”… They promised a 1 million pound reward for the winner who would decode the book to reveal the historic secret behind it …. One of them said in an interview they expected it be solved within 5 months and it SEEMS it is still unsolved after 5 years… because there is no confirmation from this group : Priory Publications (PP for short) so far … BUT there was much debate and controversy about the authenticity and the financial backgrounds of this group, on the tweleve forum lately… They (PP) also started a Website : http://www.maranatha-puzzle.com which no longer seems to exists and replaced it with another one http://www.timemonk.com … which looks boring to me after a while turning that dial…. And since the Tweleve forum are putting recently CRAP Commercials between almost every post on every Thread, I did QUIT this little silly puzzle-game Website… We will say more on this in part 2…

But let me first introduce myself : IAM Obelix, Scribe of the “Brotherhood of the Bees”…(BB for short) …NOT in anyway related to the former PP group but related to the “Iinner Sanctum of the Knigts Templar”… My origins lay in Old Europe and the Knowledge of our Brotherhood goes back to the beginning of humanity… Let me first give due credit and thanks to all those who in the Past and in the Present have transmitted the fragments of the Secret Wisdom and will do in the future… That Knowledge, first by oral tradition and later by the work of Scribes, has been guarded by us during many many centuries… until these days…

From The WIKIPEDIA : The Sarmouni, the name means 'The Bees' have often been accused of being Christians in disguise, Buddhists, Moslem sectarians, or of harbouring even more ancient beliefs, derived, some say, from Babylonia. Others claim that their teaching has survived the Flood… Iit is said that according to the Armenian book Merkhavat, the Sarmoung Brotherhood, also referred to as the 'Inner Circle of Humanity', originated in ancient Babylon circa 2500 BC, at around the time the Egyptians built the Great Pyramid of Giza. The Ouspensky Foundation state that the brotherhood was active in the golden Babylonian time of Hammurabi (1728-1686 BC) and is connected with Zoroaster, the teacher of Pythagoras. There are many legends about Sarmoun-Dargauh ('Court of the Bees'), and one of them is this : True knowledge, it is asserted, exists as a positive commodity, like the honey of the bee. Like honey, it can be accumulated.

From time to time in human history, however, it lies unused and starts to leak away. On those occasions the Sarmouni and their associates all over the world collect it and store it in a special receptacle. Then, when the time is ripe, they release it into the world again, through specially trained emissaries. They have to ' work like a BEE, in Private.' ….. (so far Wikipedia ... bzzzz)

WE don’t want to take in no way the merit of the fruit of those labourers who during centuries have written down or done research on a vast domain of Topics covered in Old Sumerian manuscripts, the Bible, The Torah, The Koran, Egyptian and Ethiopian documents, The Qabalah, all kinds of Medieval Manuscripts etc etc …
We just want to pass some of this information to those searching for True Wisdom and TRUTH itself … with help of some of you ...

Obelix, Scribe of These Bees
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to be continued...

PART 2
Now it has come to a point in Time where WE think there is a Winner who DID solve the Maranatha-puzzle AND discovered some Great Truth about the history of mankind and there are others who worked for years and found some interesting facts too. Some even found the KEY of the puzzle-book but were not able to TURN that key to find some of the Great Truth….but there is no answer yet from the PP group who promised the 1 million pound prize… We had Private Mail contacts with some people and WE are pretty much convinced there is a WINNER who deserves The PRIZE…. We asking WHY the winner is not rewarded although we are not involved in solving the puzzle as such. We (BB) have our HONEY who is worth much more than the MONEY… Our goal is to release SOME of the Great Truth about His(s)tory to mankind (see above paragraph in part 1 about the Sarmouni …) and SOME about what WILL HAPPEN in the near future…

We (BB) think PP is very embarassed now : or they will come out of their trenches and deliver the money to the winner of the puzzle (which we doubt because the big amount of money involved that they do not have yet …) Or they CANT and DONT WANT deliver for whatever reason…. But then there is the big problem what they will do next because they deliver kind of clue every month and the whole Maranatha puzzle forum is curious and awaiting the new feb-CLUE ….

If they release a new clue then the supposed winner said to post the solution to the puzzle (and some other knowledge perhaps !) not in the media at large but on a forum (here or on tweleve) … In this case they (PP and Tweleve) will be missing the media attention they wanted and needed to make the necessary money and so missing the publicity they hoped for their next book... and as a confirmer of what we think : we see that recently Tweleve started indeed to put crap commercials between every post to raise money…

And then there is the big question : What do the BB know and how will they (BB) use their Knowledge …. We made it clear to the PP and to the Winner : We have no problem with the release by them now of the Truth about The Beginning of and following History…
We will let speak first those who worked very hard for years and want to show us what they found and how they did it and then we will wait and see what PP will do. Depending on what will be revealed, WE, the BB, will tell via Andrew Gough in due time what we know about what really happened in the Past (history) and some that WILL HAPPEN (prophecy)….

We and others have much to say about ‘The Beginning Et the End”... Light and darkness... Good and Evil... Asmodeus… Melchisedech…Old Egypt… Mosis… Ark of the Covenant…Solomon and The Temple… Knights Templar… Freemasonry … Cathars… ... The Holy Grail… RLC…Boudet…Poussin… SIS… The TWINS …The BEES…etc etc …
For the moment we will use this TOPIC (the Maranatha puzzle) but possibly create other TOPICS lateron who are more focused on 1 item….

We invite everyone to post here what he/she discovered so far, but without any attack on a personal level … All you say does not have to bee Proven , it does not have to be Facts… just release what you know or think you know about these things, the others can take it or leave it … Just post what you think can help, illuminate, and eventually correct some info from others but only if you can Prove their information is wrong otherwise we are in for endless discussions what is NOT the purpose of this TOPIC we started… Thats all we ask … AMEN

Will a visitor like yourself take some of the 'honey' WE and others will release here and perhaps you can and will attribute on a positive way yourself ? we hope and see…

Obelix, Scribe of the Bees
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To be continued….

like the Website very fun
the book looks like fun
Great job

Maranatha puzzle and the truth about His(s)tory ... nottin at all to do with RLC. Perhaps with Michael Jackson -His(s)tory.
Wrong section.

HONEY PART 1 As a starter on our menu we serve you the first bit of our HONEY by connecting and pointing attention to :

ARCADIA : The Eden Paradise of Adam and Eve with the fruit (Apple) from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil…

The POUSSIN painting : Shepherds of Arcadia : 1 shepherdess and 3 gods in Arcadia

Then there is the painting by Juan de Juanes from Greek mythology in ARCADIA about that other Shepherd “Paris” with 3 goddesses and the golden apple…

Connect these with the legend of Gilgamesh searching immortality in the wood with Sacred Trees having blue lapis lazuli fruit (blue apples ?)….

Go on with the PARIS his(s)tory in many of its forms! The legend about the City of Light and the legend about the shepherd Ignace PARIS chasing a lost sheep found in a cave with golden coins…. In 1645
And then we have a priest from Razes : François PARIS, the appointed secretary of Nicolas Pavillon bishop of ALET in 1646 ,who could have known the secret from his relative Ignace Paris !

Above the confessional in the RLC church we find the scene of a Shepherd caring his (lost) sheep with a broken leg … Paris Or the story from the bible : Jesus, the Good Shepherd…

And for the Maranathans look in the LBB what is said about PARIS… strange to say the least… hmmm

In this Part I of our HONEY leaking Project, you have some things to chew about and then try to PUT some of this pieces of the great puzzle into PLACE...
Please have your comments on the new topic we will open about that first part of our Honey into the specific Topic: “Arcadia – Paris – Shepherds - Eden – Sacred Trees” and as it is related to RLC we will put this new topic, open for comments, questions and discussions and answers , in this same RLC forum…. See you there…

If you agree we will use this “General TOPIC about the Great Truth and Maranatha” here on THIS RLC forum because many is related to RLC as you will see…. Some other info about the Great Truth, we will just mention it here in short and point to a more specific TOPIC elsewhere on this Forum for more in-depth discussion… thx

Obelix, scribe of the Bees
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Watch out, Obeah Man: here's your section: http://andrewgough.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=14

YOU better watch out, Egiwolf, man and i prefer not say to where your section is ...

As i said and proved in the few posts i made so far "The Great Truth" has MUCH TO DO about RLC but you, the LITTLE "Grand Master" EGIWOLF dont get it ...
Read my post plz and all things i say as "Scribe of the Bees" is not explicit about Bees, at least not litterally .... Not only a Grand Master but even a little humble BEE should understand that ...
A MASTER should be able to read the Allegory...

And ill speak "HERE" about The TOMBS , The PRIESTS , The STONES from RLC related to OTHER tombs, priests and stones... ok Egiwolfie ?

As "Scribe of The Bees" i have also much to say about Cathars, Knights Templar, Religion who WIIL be adressed in the appropiate section so you should be happy then, little EGOWOLF ok man ?



OBELIX, "Scribe of the Bees" posting here not about Bees (not for now...) but about RLC related topics ...

Looks like somones poked a stick into the hornets nest, sorry make that bee hive

Hi folks,
As i suspected and told in my previous posts, The authors of the Maranatha puzzle (PP priory Pub) who promised the 1 million pound prize ! has send the following email to the admin (cthree) of the Tweleve Maranatha puzzle site who made it public a hour ago :

Hello CThree,
Always good to hear from you, and your timing is perfect, although for sad news.
Below is a copy of a statement being released today, and I have attached the documents referred to in the release.
It is with great regret to announce that Priory Publications (GB) Ltd., has seized trading as from 9.00am UK time on the 21st February 2011.
As such it can not support the competition known as ‘TimeMonk’ or ‘Maranatha – Et in Arcadia Ego’.
We understand that many people will be disappointed by this news, as much as we are.
I would like to forward a personal thank you for all the support and dedication we have received through the years.
We have released ‘Final Stages of the Solution’ PDF to confirm that to this date we have received no ‘Successful’ entry, after ‘Liquidation’ is complete, a full PDF Solution should be made available.
I am glad you have contacted during this time, as I would like to thank you for your support and how you have managed the effects of our endeavours, as they have been posted on your forum.
We wish we could continue, but we have been hit by the Global Ecomony, and no longer have the required 'Cashflow' to maintain operations.
Thank you again,
Duncan Burden

He attached 5 PDF files that appear to contain the solution (or at least the basis for it). It mentions specifically the needed phrase and key for a winning entry.
You can download that pack here. http://tweleve.org/mara_solve.zip
If you read these are 5 PDF files with hints at the solution, you will see yourself : "MUCH IS RELATED TO SAUNIERE Et RLC !!!" as i said ...

It that not a great COINCIDENCE ? with what we supposed would happen a few days ago ?
Obelix, scribe of the Bees
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The Nigerians have less obvious scams.

Don't be so timid, Obeah Licks, just try some boldness. I know you can

YOU don't get it that these strange titles on Arcadia are part of the board. No one here's a Grand Master except doc rs and loudmouth ThoDee.

Must be a real ill speach then, as you name it.

You WILL HAVE much to say? I see ...
"Your word in God's ear", as we say in Vienna.

May i advise Egowolfie to put something more interesting on this thread Plz...
So little egowolfie, STOP with your poor little One-Liners and put something USEFULL on the forum ....

Obelix, Scribe of the Bees
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Not wishing to stray too far off the original post(er) is anyone watching the new series Bedlam on Sky Living!

VAM

Hi VAM, i think our Egowolf dude will not appreciate what you do here, but IAM glad to meet you :
Although this is not the Questions thread i would like to ask you just one little question :
Why do you call yourself :"Veryangrymother" ?
If its too personal, then forget it and be happy... LOL

Obelix your Bee is a hoot



The bee was an emblem of Potnia, the Minoan-Mycenaean "Mistress", also referred to as "The Pure Mother Bee".[1] Her priestesses received the name of "Melissa" ("bee").[1] In addition, priestesses worshipping Artemis and Demeter were called "Bees"

Honey, "the gift of heaven" according to Virgil (Georgics, IV), even conveyed prescience: the priestess at Delphi was the "Delphic Bee", and in 1 Samuel 14 "Jonathan... put forth the end of the rod that was in his hand, and dipped it in a honey comb, and put his hand to his mouth; and his eyes were enlightened."

For those interested in BEES I just want to take your attention to the mean page of ARCADIA by Andrew Gough himself :

About Arcadia
Just as the beehive is an ancient symbol of knowledge, so the bee is an initiate and Arcadia the landscape on which it feeds. Immerse yourself, and taste the honey that wisdom brings.
I love the notion of Arcadia; a paradise or golden age lost in antiquity, preserved in mythology, and commemorated by countless generations. In harmony with this theme, I’ve chosen the motif of a bee entering a hive - brilliantly designed by Mark Foster - as a symbol of an initiate's immersion in knowledge, for this is what a beehive represents, esoterically; the collective wisdom of the ages.
Arcadia provides a perspective on history's mysteries. And while it features my writing, research and insights, it also showcases the new and fascinating ideas of others, both in the Forum and in Guest Articles. Want to share your work? Well then, this is your chance.
Welcome to Arcadia. Now that you’ve entered the hive, isn’t it time you immersed yourself in the mysteries?
Arcadia is a state of mind.
Thank you for visiting.
Andrew Gough

To know even more of what is known about "The Bees" look at AG excellent research articles about BEES in almost all aspects....

Before going on with our "Maranatha and the Great Truth in His(s)tory" topic with the Item "there was a TIME when there was NO TIME ..."
We will first wait and see after dust has settled on the tweleve forum after all the ramblings lately...
We wait for an answer from the admin (Cthree) of the little silly tweleve game site if this puzzle is really over ....
We want also a public statement from Duncan, the PR man of Priory Pub to validate his emails to cthree and jlockest or to say if its a hoax...

In the mean time i point your attention to this "The lamentation of Christ" Poussin painting (the first, the MUNICH one ) to look at very closely.... bzzzzzz
Find it here http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Nicolas_Poussin_006.jpg/120px-Nicolas_Poussin_006.jpg
Or look at this painting on my (Obelix) post on "The paintings related to the mystery" topic here on the forum:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3470&start=25

See if you can find the THREE remarquable items on this painting... (two of them has been found yet by lovuian) and ask why there are there
we will come back and use this lateron in our "Maranatha and the Great Truth in His(s)tory" ...

Obelix, Scribe of "The Bees"
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Very kind of you.

Thank you Obelix. I have also noticed a pyramid in another painting of Poussin's: the Pharaoh's Daughter finding Moses in the river? Obviously the story takes place in Egypt, so it is no mystery why it would be there, but it leads to the question of whether the lamentation painting is telling us Jesus had a connection to Egypt also?

This painting with Moses is also interesting because there is a figure that appears to left of the scene, much as the figure of Alpheus appears in the 1st Burghers of Arcadia, where we see him spilling a vessel onto the ground. In this scene, this figure appears to be holding something that looks like a horn of plenty or bough with flowers, perhaps it represents a different figure, I'll have to look further into it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Poussin_-_Die_Auffindung_Moses.jpeg

Also of interest are the two figures on the other side of the bank of the river where we can see one on the left clearly pointing down towards the top of the pyramid's reflection in the river, seemingly stating "As Above, So Below".

So in the Lamentation painting you posted, possible 3rd subjects that are interesting are the bowl/cup (Grail) on the ground and then what appears to be an urn?

I totally agree with your comments Hayward, about egypt , alpheus, horn of plenty, capstone of pyramid, the mirroring in the water and look what is between the 2 guys...
Special points of interest seems to bee the three females and female servant (sister mosis?) related to the 3 mary's and sarah on the beaches of "Les saintes Maries de la Mer" in france coming from egypt, and look at the hand gestures as always in his paintings , the male(!) servant who took mosis, the left corner... etc
And about the Lamentation : look also at the wounds and the tombs ... Much more to discover ... thx Hayward...

But these lazy and crazy forum members (look at their stupid answers to my posts! to know who they are! its clear for all to see... )
These vultures are circling around here on the forum just posting stupid one-liners and attacks on the personal level, they have eyes to see but dont LOOK, they have ears to hear but they dont LISTEN ....
They are victims of their own STUPIDITY...
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PS if you attack the nice little bees, bee prepared to get their sting....

Would ya care to elaborate

Obelix, would you also consider to elaborate on what you mentioned about the three Mary's and Sarah arriving at "Les Saintes Maries de la Mer" from Egypt? Most of the legends concerning this, have them being placed in a boat in palestine.---Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2skW43HNpE and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Z1V5cSWU4

Most of the legends (those older than twenty years, that is) also only tell of two Marys coming by boat to SS. Maries-de-la-Mer, Mary Salome and Mary Jacobe. Mary Magdalene was a no-show and Sarah (la Sarassina) was already there to greet the other two.

TCP

I recall that when this Maranatha scam was launched several years ago, there were long delays between the installments as their business plan was contingent on sales from the first installment financing the publication of the second, then the second for the third, the third for the fourth, etc. The general consensus at that time was that if Priory Publications didn't have the money to publish the entire series, they certainly didn't have enough to pay the million pound prize. Also, people who bought the first book pronounced it to be lame in the extreme.

TCP

While I agree that there is a great deal of confusion about the boat story, it is not accurate to say it doesn't involve Mary Magdalene until recently. There were vitae as early as the 9th century describing the arrival of the Magdalene in Provence and the next 400 years were a battle of stories between Burgundy and Provence to claim primacy over her relics - both however agreed that she had come to Provence. The reason Mary Salome and Mary Jacobe are the revered Saintes Mary in Saintes Marie de la Mer is that they were supposed to have STAYED there, as opposed to the Magdalene, who left - they believe they still have the bones of the two who stayed, so they are the venerated ones (along with Sarah, who I don't even want to get into!!... There is a great (IMHO), recent, scholarly book about the rise of the Magdalene in France in the Middle Ages, called "The Making of the Magdalen" by Katherine Ludwig Jansen, if anyone is interested.