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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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So Spartacus, how do you understand it now?


You show me yours and I’ll show you mine… :wink:

btw did we ever meet in Scotland?

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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
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So Spartacus, how do you understand it now?


You show me yours and I’ll show you mine… :wink:

btw did we ever meet in Scotland?

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I haven't been to Scotland.

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De la part du Général Dagobert.


Réponse aux questions sur le Prieuré de Sion

Chers Internautes,

C'est avec joie, dites-vous, que vous me retrouvez sur le WEB ! C'est avec plaisir que je vous réponds.

A la lecture de vos messages, il me semble que vous soyez très mal informés sur la véritable nature du Prieuré de Sion fondé par Pierre Plantard en 1956. La lecture des "Fantômes du Panthéon", la "lettre à Gino Sandri" et "Le retour du Roi-Perdu, fin du Prieuré de Sion" vous a permis, je l'espère, d'y voir plus clair dans la compréhension de cette lamentable affaire de Rennes-le-Château.

Donc, pour satisfaire votre légitime curiosité, sachez que, pour des raisons personnelles très graves, j'ai été amené à m'intéresser à cette "histoire de fous" (Minute du 13 octobre 1993), dès l'élection de François Mitterrand à la Présidence de la République.

Et cela, pour une raison bien simple, parce que j'avais été intrigué par sa visite à Rennes-le-Château en mars 1981, petit village de l'Aude dans les Corbières où s'était distingué l'un de mes ancêtres entre 1779 et 1794 en exploitant des mines avec son cousin Jean-Pierre François Duhamel, Commissaire du roi Louis XVI pour les Mines et les Forges.

Ces recherches généalogiques et historiques sur ma famille et la Franc-Maçonnerie m'ont permis d'écrire un livre, terminé le 14 juillet 1990, et intitulé : "Le roi Dagobert. Histoire d'une famille et d'une chanson".

Présenté en octobre 1990 au concours d'histoire de la société Académique de Nantes et de Loire-Atlantique, cet ouvrage a obtenu le Second Prix du Jury d'Histoire et la médaille de la Ville de la Chapelle-sur-Erdre.

Il me fut décerné, lors d'une cérémonie officielle au Musée Dobrée, à Nantes, en février 1991 par le Président du Jury, également Président du Conseil Général, Monsieur Charles-Henri de Cossé Brissac, en présence de l'adjoint à la Culture de la Ville de Nantes, dont le maire est toujours, Monsieur Jean-Marc Ayrault, par ailleurs député et président du groupe socialiste à l'Assemblée Nationale.

Le rapporteur du jury était quant à lui un ancien magistrat-général militaire qui avait été juge d'instruction pour le procès des criminels de guerre de la Panzer division SS Das Reich, auteurs du massacre d'Oradour-sur-Glane, le 10 juin 1944, voici 60 ans.

Déposé par la Société Académique à la Bibliothèque Nationale, mon manuscrit figure également au Catalogue des ouvrages sur l'histoire de France du CNRS, ainsi qu'à la Médiathèque de Nantes et dans plusieurs Archives Départementales (Loire-Atlantique, Manche, Pyrénées Orientales, Aude).

Malgré cela aucun éditeur n'a accepté de le publier étant considéré par l'ensemble des partis politiques comme un brûlot en révélant la véritable raison du massacre des 642 habitants d'Oradour-sur-Glane par la division maudite de la Das Reich qui sera comparée à la Bête de l'Apocalypse par certains auteurs.

Je me suis donc résolu, en dépit de la loi Fabius-Gayssot, à le publier à compte d'auteur en 1998 et le millier d'exemplaires tirés a été vendu sans aucun problème, mis à part des menaces anonymes et une lettre d'un certain André l'Homme de Tautavel en juillet 1998, dès la parution et la distribution de mon livre à mes frais.

Cette même année 1991, l'affaire Urba instruite par le juge Thierry Jean-Pierre au Mans était le point de départ de scandales financiers en chaîne entraînant une cascade de "suicides" après le vendredi 13 septembre 1991 lorsqu’un élu socialiste de Loire-Atlantique trouva la mort à la Pointe Saint-Gildas, commune de Préfailles où résident plusieurs membres de ma famille, et un architecte d'origine libanaise, alors en relations d'affaires avec un avocat international de Beyrouth qui fut l'intermédiaire auprès de Jacques Chirac, Premier Ministre de Mitterrand, au sujet du juge Boullouque chargé de l'instruction de l'attentat rue de Rennes à Paris !!! Lequel juge Boullouque s'est aussi suicidé …

Dégoûté par tous ces scandales politico-financiers, à la suite d'articles de journaux sur les archives introuvables de Roger-Patrice Pelat décédé en mars 1989, je me décidai à faire part de mes recherches au juge Thierry Jean-Pierre qui m'écouta avec attention lui parler du Prieuré de Sion, de Rennes-le-Château et des liens que j'entrevoyais avec la franc-maçonnerie et les partis politiques, de gauche comme de droite.

Prenant très sérieusement ces recherches en compte, il ordonna une perquisition au domicile du Grand Maître, descendant des Mérovingiens et tant qu’à faire de Jésus-Christ, du mystérieux Prieuré de Sion à Colombes.

Puis, il rendit son rapport qui fut enterré par le Garde des Sceaux, alors Pierre Méhaignerie, maire de Vitré et président du Conseil Général de l'Ille et Vilaine, "alter ego" de Charles Henri de Cossé Brissac, tous deux appartenant au Parti Républicain, en délicatesse aussi avec la Justice à propos de financements occultes … "Bon appétit, Messieurs les Ministres intègres !" (Ruy Blas - Victor Hugo).

En février 1995, peu avant la fin du mandat présidentiel de Mitterrand, Roland Dumas fut nommé Président du Conseil Constitutionnel et je lui écrivais une lettre de mise en garde estimant qu'il serait "piégé" par cette sinécure que lui offrait Tonton pour un couronnement de carrière politicienne commencée en 1956, la même année que la mort de mon père et de la fondation du Prieuré de Sion à la frontière Suisse, paradis des banques et des comptes anonymes, surtout pendant l’Occupation, par les nazis, les SS et des collaborateurs de Vichy…

La suite, vous la connaissez aussi bien que moi.

En 1996, mort de François Mitterrand ; en 1997, début de l'affaire ELF ; en 1998, instruction par la juge Éva Joly, jusqu'en 2000 où Roland Dumas se mit en congé du Conseil Constitutionnel à la suite de certaines révélations de la "Fille de Limoges"… (Vol d'Identité par Jean-Pierre François).

Le 3 février 2000, le Grand Maître du Prieuré de Sion rendit le dernier soupir à Barcelone. Il fut aussitôt remplacé par son fidèle secrétaire, Gino Sandri, cadre de la CPAM et commissaire paritaire FO, section informaticiens, en région parisienne.


Par conséquent, l'on peut affirmer sans risque d'erreur que le Prieuré de Sion n'est rien d'autre qu'une organisation occulte, avatar de la Cagoule et de la Synarchie, soutenue par l'Opus Dei, la "Mafia blanche" du Vatican fondée par Balaguer en 1929, soutien du général Franco pendant la guerre d'Espagne entre 1936 et 1939.

Cette organisation à caractère mafieux, à l’instar du Temple Solaire, n’a d’autre but que d’attirer les gogos en mal d’ésotérisme de pacotille et de spiritualité « new-age » pour cacher les circuits financiers destinés à blanchir l’argent sale des trafics en tous genres, tare du système capitaliste ultra-libéral en vigueur aux Etats-Unis et dans les pays Anglo-Saxons friands de franc-maçonnerie déiste.

En cette année 2004, soixantième anniversaire d’une tragédie sans précédent dans l’histoire de notre pays, il est donc essentiel que le peuple français prenne conscience de ce qui se trouve derrière la Constitution de l’Europe présentée comme une panacée par nos dirigeants. C’est pourquoi, il faut soumettre ce projet à référendum et pour cela faire l’inventaire de la politique européenne des années passées, depuis 1981, tant par Mitterrand que Chirac. Lionel Jospin a été battu le 21 avril 2002 pour avoir refusé de faire cet inventaire pourtant promis dès son arrivée à Matignon en 1997.

Dans le dernier numéro 8 de «Histoire et Patrimoine» consacré à l’histoire des Francs-Maçons et aux éminences grises de la République on peut lire ceci page 108 : «Si Jacques Chirac a su habilement puiser dans la nappe phréatique maçonne, Jospin n’y est pas parvenu…
Jospin était-il si ignorant de la maçonnerie alors que les lambertistes, courant trotskiste, auquel il est resté lié jusqu’en 1986, s’intéressaient beaucoup aux temples ? L’infiltration des militants de Pierre Lambert, leader historique du Parti des Travailleurs (P.T.) est symptomatique de l’interpénétration des réseaux en l’occurrence entre le G.O., Force Ouvrière et la Libre Pensée».

Vous avez bien lu : le Grand Orient, Marc Blondel et les libres-penseurs nantais !!!

Par conséquent, on comprend mieux pourquoi Gino Sandri, commissaire paritaire de FO en région parisienne, a succédé à Pierre Plantard à la tête du Prieuré de Sion puisque la famille Plantard est originaire de Loire-Atlantique.

Le 26 août 1994, suite au refus du Président du Conseil Général de l’Aude de faire une enquête sur la disparition des archives de la famille de Chefdebien et du général Dagobert (1736-1794), je lui avais répondu ceci : «On ne construit pas un idéal démocratique sur le mensonge et le terrorisme intellectuel. Cela débouche nécessairement sur le désordre, la confusion des esprits et le terrorisme tout court».

Qu’en est-il dix ans après ?

Ces prétendus «Supérieurs Inconnus» promettent toujours des révélations qu’ils font payer très cher et qu’ils fractionnent pour faire durer l’attente, aiguiser les convoitises et garantir leurs revenus en organisant des cérémonies d’initiation chevaleresques, templières et millénaristes en vue de reconnaître le Grand Monarque qui apportera la paix universelle avec le Grand Pape. Bien entendu ces légendes arthuriennes, dont Wagner s’était fait l’écho auprès de Hitler, sont habilement exploitées par les éminences grises de la République auprès du chef de l’Etat en exercice.


Jusqu’à sa mort, Mitterrand avait André Rousselet comme conseiller à l’Élysée, puis exécuteur testamentaire. Depuis, Jérôme Monod a pris la relève auprès de Jacques Chirac en vendant une société française florissante, les PFG, fondées sous Louis Philippe, aux Américains qui ont ainsi accès non seulement à l’état civil des vieilles familles françaises mais à leurs patrimoines historiques !

Le «Grand Monarque» serait «Louis XX», selon certains grands initiés royalistes et légitimistes, un Bourbon d’Espagne, dépositaire depuis Saint-Louis, de «l’heureux sang des Bourbon» ! (Nostradamus)

Quant au «Grand Pape», Jean-Paul II, qui a déjà dévoilé le troisième secret de Fatima (mais oui !), il va peut-être nous apprendre son nom après son pèlerinage à Lourdes, le 15 août prochain…

Et dire que nous sommes au XXIème siècle à l’heure des tests A.D.N. capables de révéler à tout un chacun quels sont ses parents, voire ses ancêtres !

Comme ce fut le cas, pour mettre un terme à la «Survivance», celle de Louis XVII, dont l’ascendance des Habsbourg par Marie-Antoinette n’a fait aucun doute. Quant à la paternité de
Louis XVI … même son frère Louis XVIII n’y croyait pas !

Prophètes et autres éminences grises de la République ont donc du mal à suivre les progrès de la science !





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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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Sheila I hope you don't mind but I'm just going to microsoft translate your above posting into English just to make it easier.


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On the part of General Dagobert.


Response to questions about the Priory of Sion

Dear Internet users

It is with joy, you say, that you find yourself on the WEB! It is with pleasure that I answer you.

Reading your messages, it seems to me that you're very poorly informed on the true nature of the Priory of Sion, founded in 1956 by Pierre Plantard. Playback of the "ghosts of the Pantheon", the "Gino Sandri letter" and "The return of King-lost end of the Priory of Sion" helped you, I hope to see clearer understanding of this dismal case of Rennes-le-Château.

Therefore, to satisfy your legitimate curiosity, know that, for very serious personal reasons, I was brought to my interest in this "crazy story" (October 13, 1993 Minute) from François Mitterrand election to the Presidency of the Republic.

And this, for some reason quite simply because I was intrigued by his visit to Rennes-le-Château in March 1981, small village of the Aude in Corbières where it was distinguished one of my ancestors between 1779 and 1794 mines with his cousin Jean-Pierre François Duhamel, Commissioner of King Louis XVI for the Mines and Forges.

Genealogical and historical research on my family and Freemasonry have allowed me to write a book, completed on 14 July 1990 and entitled: "King Dagobert." "History of a family and a song".

Presented in October 1990 in contest history society academic in Nantes and Loire-Atlantique, this book won the Second Prize of Jury of history and the Medal of the city of la Chapelle-sur-Erdre.

It me was awarded, at an official ceremony at Dobrée Museum in Nantes, in February of 1991 by the President of the Jury, also Chairman of Conseil Général, Mr Charles-Henri de Cossé Brissac, presence of the Deputy to the Culture of the city of Nantes, whose Mayor is always, Mr Jean-Marc Ayrault, Member and President of the Socialist Group in the National Assembly.

The rapporteur of the Board was a magistrate-General veteran, who had been investigating judge for the trial of the war criminals of Panzer division Das Reich SS, perpetrators of the massacre of Oradour-sur-Glane, 60 years ago on 10 June 1944.

Filed by the academic society at the national library, my manuscript also appears in the Catalogue of the works on the history of France of CNRS, as well as the media library of Nantes and in several departmental Archives (Loire-Atlantique, sleeve, Pyrénées Orientales, Aude).

Despite this no publisher declined to publish considered by all the political parties as a rant by revealing the true reason for the massacre of Oradour-sur-Glane 642 residents by division Das Reich, which will be compared with the beast of the Apocalypse by some authors cursed.

I myself am so resolved, in spite of the Fabius-Gayssot Act to publish account to author in 1998 and 1,000 drawn copies was sold without any problems apart from anonymous threats and a letter from a certain André the man of Tautavel in July 1998, upon the publication and distribution of my book at my own expense.

That same year 1991, Urba heard by judge Thierry Jean-Pierre le mans was the starting point of financial scandals chain causing a cascade of "suicide" after Friday, September 13, 1991 when a Loire-Atlantique Socialist elected found death at Pointe Saint-Gildas, common Préfailles where reside several members of my family, and an architect of Lebanese origin, then in business relationships with an international lawyer of Beirut was the intermediary with Jacques Chirac, Prime Minister of Mitterrand's Boullouque responsible for the bombing trial judge rue de Rennes in Paris! Which judge Boullouque committed as suicide...

Disgusted by all these scandals once, as a result of newspaper articles about unlocatable archives of Roger-Patrice Pelat died in March 1989, I decided me to share my research with Thierry Jean-Pierre judge who listened to me carefully talk the Priory of Sion, Rennes-le-Château and the links I entrevoyais with Freemasonry and political, left and right.

Taking into account research very seriously, he ordered a search the home of the Grand Master, descendant of Merovingian and so much to do for Jesus Christ, the mysterious Priory of Sion at doves.

Then he gave his report which was buried by the keeper of the seals then Pierre Méhaignerie, Vitré Mayor and Chairman of the General Council of the Ille and Vilaine "alter ego" of Charles Henri de Cossé Brissac, both belonging to the Republican party, delicacy also with Justice about occult financing... "Bon appétit, honest Ministers!" (Ruy Blas - Victor Hugo).

In February 1995, shortly before the end of the term of Mitterrand, Roland Dumas was appointed President of the Constitutional Council and I wrote him a letter of warning believing that he would be "trapped" by this sinecure offered to him by Tonton for a Coronation of political career started in 1956, the same year as the death of my father and the founding of the Priory of Sion Switzerland, border paradise banks and anonymous accounts, especially during the Occupation by Nazi, SS and Vichy… collaborators

After that, you know as well as me.

In 1996, death of François Mitterrand; in 1997, the case early ELF; in 1998, statement by Eva Joly, j. in 2000 where Roland Dumas began by leave of the Constitutional Council to some revelations of the "daughter of Limoges"... (By Jean-Pierre François identity theft).

February 3, 2000, the Grand Master of Priory of Sion went last sigh in Barcelona. He was immediately replaced by his trusty Secretary, Gino Sandri, the CPAM framework and joint Commissioner FO computer section in the Paris region.


Therefore, one can assert safely that the Priory of Sion is nothing more than an occult organization, avatar of the hood and Synarchism, supported by Opus Dei, "White Mafia" Vatican City founded in 1929 by Balaguer, support of General Franco during the Spain war between 1936 and 1939.

This mafia with the solar Temple organization has no other purpose to attract gogos bad esotericism junk and spirituality "new - age" to hide the financial circuits designed to launder dirty money of all kinds, smuggling tare of the capitalist system in force in the United States and in the appetite of Freemasonry deistic Anglo-Saxons countries Louche.

In year 2004, sixtieth anniversary of tragedy unprecedented in the history of our country, it is therefore essential that the French people aware of what lies behind the Constitution of Europe presented as a panacea by our leaders. Wherefore, be submitted to referendum and this project make an inventory of European policy in the years since 1981, both by Mitterrand as Chirac. Lionel Jospin was beaten for refusing to make this inventory promised upon his arrival at Matignon in 1997 on April 21, 2002.

In the last 8 "History and heritage" devoted to the history of the Freemasons and the éminences grey of the Republic can read this page 108: "if Jacques Chirac skilfully able tap into Mason groundwater, Jospin is not parvenu…".
Jospin was if ignoring the masonry so that lambertistes, current Trotskyist, to which it is remained linked until in 1986, interested much in temples? "The infiltration of activists of Pierre Lambert, historic leader of the workers party (P.T.) is symptomatic of the interpenetration of networks in the present case between the o.g., Force Ouvrière, and free thinking."

You have properly read: Grand Orient, Marc Blondel and Nantes freethinkers!

As a result, understand why Gino Sandri, joint Commissioner of TF in the Paris region, succeeded Pierre Plantard at the head of the Priory of Sion since Plantard family originates in Loire-Atlantique.

August 26, 1994, due to the refusal of the President of the General Council of the Aude to investigate the disappearance of the archives of the family Chefdebien and General Dagobert (1736-1794), I was told this: "Have not built a democratic ideal on deception and intellectual terrorism." "This necessarily leads to chaos, confusion of minds and short terrorism."

What ten years after?

These so-called "Unknown superiors" always promise revelations they do pay dearly and they break to last him waiting, sharpen the convoitises and guarantee their incomes by organizing ceremonies of initiation, chivalrous, Templars and millenarians to recognize great monarch brings universal peace with Grand Pope. Course these arthuriennes legends which Wagner was the echo of Hitler, are skilfully exploited by éminences grises of the Republic of the head of State in Office.


Until his death, Mitterrand was André Rousselet as Adviser to the Élysée and executor. Since then, Jérôme Monod took over from Jacques Chirac by selling a flourishing French company, PFG based under Louis Philippe to the Americans who thus have access not only to the civil status of old families French but their historical heritage!

"Grand Monarque" would be "Louis XX", some great insider royalist and légitimistes, a custodian since St. Louis, Spain, Bourbon from "the happy blood of the Bourbon"! (Nostradamus)

In "Grand Pope", John Paul II, who already unveiled the third secret of Fatima (but yes!), it will perhaps tell us his name after his pilgrimage to Lourdes, August 15, prochain…

And say that we are in the 21st century à l'Heure de able to reveal to any deoxyribonucleic tests everyone what are his parents, or even his ancestors!

As was the case for an end to the "survival" of Louis XVII, whose ancestry of the Habsburgs by Marie-Antoinette was no doubt. As to the authorship of
Louis XVI... even his brother Louis XVIII did not believed!

Prophets and other éminences grises of the Republic have difficulty tracking the progress of science!





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http://books.google.fr/books?id=PPrQR7m ... &q&f=false

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Spartacus... beware of sources claiming to have been there, taking notes while Plantard testified in open court. They are lying.


Nooooo! My first concrete 'fact' immediately thrown into disrepute...

But Plantard was nevertheless questioned in court wasn't he? The Picknett and Prince claim is bogus is it not?

As for Dagobert, Shiela has kindly provided a documented record where he acknowledges giving testamony to Judge Jean-Pierre (can we put this down as a fact. I think so)... but did Platard also implicate himself to Judge Jean-Pierre? The answer to that question might be revealing.

Btw I'm surprised you didn't take the bait with my earlier quote :wink:

I was half expecting to be at least ridiculed...

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I'm cheering you on to figure it out
as for the picture
I can't find it I can only find these of Mitterand
here is Mitterand at Rennes
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I'm cheering you on to figure it out
as for the picture
I can't find it I can only find these of Mitterand
here is Mitterand at Rennes

Hi Lov, I'm not positive but I think you might be mistaken about the photo. There are of course the photos of Mitterand taken at RLC and I think you are right about there being one of him with Plantard. However I don't think this was taken at RLC ( I'll look for it, as I think I have it somewhere ).
Here is another of Mitterand at RLC.
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You know Nic
I think your right
the ole memory is slippin
Nic you are definitely a gentlemen saying it so kindly
I hope you have a wonderful Valentine's day
I thought I have heard of one picture long ago but then who knows someone could have cooked
the photo or maybe they did meet

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Hi Roger,

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That’s not how the system works.


Ok. So Plantard was detained for 48 hours and questioned by the Judge during a closed session, after Roger Dagobert had informed the Judge about the 1989 PoS Pelat claim.

How’s that?

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Hi Lov,

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I'm cheering you on to figure it out


Thank you kindly Lov. Flattery will get you everywhere. :mrgreen:

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as for the picture
I can't find it


No worries. If it exists and you come across it again post it please. I’d still be interested in copying it for my files.

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Roger wrote:
Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
Hi Roger,

Roger wrote:

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That’s not how the system works.


Ok. So Plantard was detained for 48 hours and questioned by the Judge during a closed session, after Roger Dagobert had informed the Judge about the 1989 PoS Pelat claim.

How’s that?

Regards,

Spartacus


I don't recall whether or not he was formally detained for 48 hours (a "garde a vue") or just "interviewed" in conjunction with a search of his premises (une perquisition). One thing is certain, the version you got about a witness taking notes is a lie. But if it comes from whence I think it does, it's to be expected.


Many thanks for your unsolicited OPINION (we value it as great as our bodily functions) an OPINION which is AS USUAL totally and utterly devoid of supporting evidence and is therefore not CERTAIN at all. I know that you tend to believe yourself to be a legend in your own lunchtime but because YOU haven't heard something doesn't make it a fact that it doesn't exist.

We'll let you know.

Don't call us we'll call you.

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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2011 8:53 am 
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Hi Roscoe,

Roscoe wrote on an earlier thread:

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...my comprehension comes from someone who was at the trial taking notes. Judge Jean-Pierre asked Plantard about Pelat (which is after all what the trial was about) and his claim of being of Royal descent and before he answered the judge said "Did you make it up" to which Plantard (after having been in custody for 48 hours reportedly unwell and tired) said 'yes'...


If you have been following the new thread you will be aware of the various versions of the Plantard/Jean-Pierre meeting doing the rounds. You say that you were at the trial. Did Plantard take the stand in open court or did you have some sort of privileged access? As I noted in an earlier post Lynn Picknett claims that Plantard was only ever interviewed in his home. Is she wrong?

Could or would you post your notes for the relevant exchange between Plantard and Judge Jean-Pierre? I'm sure it must be a relatively short exchange. I would be very interested in reading that exchange, and I’m sure a few others might also be interested.

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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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Hmmm... so, in addition to being "un con fini", Roscoe, you're also an LSOS (like your source for this disinformation)?
You must be so proud of yourself.


You've already had your explanation, it's also here. The source is Priory of Sion. I was in conversation with them before this forum was formed, Plantard, de Cherisey and de Sede were still alive. I've been doing this since 1981, yes that's even before Holy Blood Holy Grail. Hence the reason I'm far more advanced with this than you are. Many false trials have been trodden. Been there, done it.

How many copies of Vaincre do you have Roger?

Speaking of sources, hello pan this is kettle.

What's Sauniere got to do with that utter garbage currently spamming the Rennes le Chateau section? How about some sources for that?

Tell me it was Gaspard from Poiters who told you, go on gimme a laugh.

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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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Yes... you're exactly like that person... you're both an LSOS



What does LSOS mean?

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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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rain wrote:
Roger wrote:
Yes... you're exactly like that person... you're both an LSOS



What does LSOS mean?


Who knows what this latest offering of nebulous utterances from him are.

I would guess and say that normally it would be LSOB but the dualist nature of The Jesuit possibly shines through here.

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You see Roger insults everyone, not just me, at will and nobody says a word. In fact it's his only argument. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is a LSOS.

You have to remember that Roger is a disinformation agent.

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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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Roger wrote:
Yes... you're exactly like that person... you're both an LSOS


What does LSOS mean?


Lotus Seven Owners from Switzerland: http://www.lsos.ch/


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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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Hi,

This is a guess, but does LSOS perhaps mean Lying Sack Of S....

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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2011 9:12 am 
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Hi Roscoe,

Since you are obviously reading this thread, would you like to answer any, or even all, of the questions I've put to you in earlier posts? For example, you could defend yourself against the accusation that you lied when you said you were in court taking notes during the Jean-Pierre/Pelat affair.

If you did take notes, I'm sure some people on this forum would be very interested in your opinion about these matters.

Roscoe wrote:

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You have to remember that Roger is a disinformation agent.


You claim Roger is a disinformation agent. If that is true, you should IMHO take a deep breath and relax. Your constant attention to a personal flame war with him is surely exactly what a disinformation agent would want!

Do you have any real information to share regarding the Priory of Sion (surely exactly what a disinformation agent would not want)?!

And for the sake of accuracy it should be noted that...

Roscoe wrote:

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You see Roger insults everyone, not just me, at will and nobody says a word. In fact it's his only argument. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is a LSOS.


I have disagreed with Roger on a number of occasions and have yet to be called a LSOS or, as far as I can recall, insulted.

Perhaps we should all try to stick to the research topics for a few days.

Why can't we all just get along? :)

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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
Hi Roscoe,

Since you are obviously reading this thread, would you like to answer any, or even all, of the questions I've put to you in earlier posts? For example, you could defend yourself against the accusation that you lied when you said you were in court taking notes during the Jean-Pierre/Pelat affair.

If you did take notes, I'm sure some people on this forum would be very interested in your opinion about these matters.

Roscoe wrote:

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You have to remember that Roger is a disinformation agent.


You claim Roger is a disinformation agent. If that is true, you should IMHO take a deep breath and relax. Your constant attention to a personal flame war with him is surely exactly what a disinformation agent would want!

Do you have any real information to share regarding the Priory of Sion (surely exactly what a disinformation agent would not want)?!

And for the sake of accuracy it should be noted that...

Roscoe wrote:

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You see Roger insults everyone, not just me, at will and nobody says a word. In fact it's his only argument. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is a LSOS.


I have disagreed with Roger on a number of occasions and have yet to be called a LSOS or, as far as I can recall, insulted.

Perhaps we should all try to stick to the research topics for a few days.

Why can't we all just get along? :)

Regards,

Spartacus


I have never said I was in court. If you insist on calling me a liar then at least get your reading comprehension up to standard.

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Roscoe never said he was at the trial (perish the thought), what he actually said was......

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No my comprehension comes from someone who was at the trial taking notes.


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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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Hi Roscoe,

Roscoe wrote:

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If you insist on calling me a liar then at least get your reading comprehension up to standard.


When did I insist you are a liar? :?

I don't know whether you are a liar or not. The accusation was made by another poster. I simply asked you to comment on the issue in way that was somewhat more substantial than your replies so far.

At the risk of getting dragged into your seemingly never ending online confrontations...perhaps you should apply the 'get your reading comprehension up to standard' to yourself! Or perhaps you should take a deep breath and try and relax a little.

Roscoe wrote:

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I have never said I was in court.


Roscoe wrote on an earlier thread:

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'...my comprehension comes from someone who was at the trial taking notes. Judge Jean-Pierre asked Plantard about Pelat (which is after all what the trial was about) and his claim of being of Royal descent and before he answered the judge said "Did you make it up" to which Plantard (after having been in custody for 48 hours reportedly unwell and tired) said 'yes'...'


If there is a distinction between being 'in court' and being 'at the trial taking notes', I apologize if I have misrepresented you in some way.

I'd still be very interested to hear the answers to those questions that I put to you earlier.

Would you accept that the continuing flame wars are a 'God send' for any hypothetical disinformationists inhabiting this forum?

Perhaps the best way to beat any hypothetical disinformationists would be to start exchanging real information!

Come on... Lets be friends :)

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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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Spartacus Paraclete wrote:
Come on... Lets be friends :)

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Spartacus


I'm a threat to him.

Look, let's be real it's not going to happen is it?

It takes two to tango and I'm not in a dancing mood.

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 Post subject: Re: What was the purpose of the 1956 Priory of Sion?
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Yes... you're exactly like that person... you're both an LSOS


So tell me which branch of the de Cherisey family did you get all of that terminal nonsense of Sauniere's involvement from? Not the Poussin/Mary Margaret Fontanges/Cherisey connection surely.

You've been told a hundred times that this is a non-flyer. The fact that you refuse to discuss this is entirely because you know that this whole thing is on, at best, very shakey ground.

Roger mostly just doesn't say anything except fire insults and attempt to intimidate people. When he does say something he's carrying out the Eusebius doctrine and we have to second guess what's going on in his mind so he keeps himself a measure of plausible deniability. Yes it's called lying too.

Oh by the way I've done a check and you have had more Moderator warnings and deletions than I have. Most of mine have come recently because I am now thoroughly pissed off with you and your clutch of yesmen.

You will never be forgiven for driving good people away from this forum. This place is now worthless thanks to you.

In three days time I will have been on this subject for thirty years. When I started de Cherisey, Plantard and de Sede were still alive and nobody could make up cockamaimy stories about them.

"Henry Lincoln is wrong by being right too soon" - Jean Luc Robin (a former resident of Rennes le Chateau)

One day everyone (except you because you're handicapped) will catch up.

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