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tingra · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2011 7:13 pm

Do you have a link for that story please?

scorpieauxgirl · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2011 7:19 pm

tingra · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2011 7:29 pm

Thanks, that is the first time I have heard Otto Rhann mentioned in connection with the Girona story.
As for NASA.....hmmmmm :roll:

scorpieauxgirl · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2011 7:45 pm

tingra · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2011 8:04 pm

A group long thought to have been linked to the Vatican or the Habsburgs have now been revealed to include US billionaire Howard Hughes! In the 1930's German medievalist and Grail seeker Otto Rahn brought Hughes to Gerona, Spain. The legendary tycoon came to know of the region's natural stargates, entrances from other dimensions discussed in detail in Patrice's new book The Portal (Quest Books, Sept '10). In the 1960's Hughes sent CIA operatives to ransack private property holding related documents and artifacts. Did Hughes ever find and travel the portal located in the Pyrenees? Did Hughes employ legendary O.T.O member and jet propulsion pioneer Jack Parsons to assist in government projects aimed at creating artificial portals? Were the morbid accounts of the failed Philadelphia Experiment a botched attempt at constructing these artificial portals, or wormholes?

oh dear :lol:

tingra · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2011 8:06 pm

Roger wrote:

There was no such thing as NASA at that time.

I believe that the "El Americano" they're referring to was not Hughes but a military officer with connections to Hughes.

so is there some wheat amongst the chaff then? :shock:

......Bizarre!!!!

scorpieauxgirl · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2011 8:15 pm

rain · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 10:00 am

scorpieauxgirl wrote:

Hi guys......been reading the forum for awhile.....first time posting
Sorry if this has been covered already

......from the facebook page of Patrice Chaplin........
regarding the Frenchwomans garden

Interesting development: Many know that a group had ransacked the Frenchwoman's garden in the 1950's. Patrice always assumed it was the Habsburgs or the Vatican. Jose said the group was far worse than either of those. For decades no other description was given. In the last few months Patrice was finally pulled aside and handed information regarding "El Americano", as referred to by the society. This high profile American had been at the House of Canons in the early 30's with Otto Rahn, in the late 40's, and had ordered the garden's ransacking in the 1950's. He was not an initiate, but came to know of the journey. He explored the Grail's portal material uninvited, eventually causing a mishap that took NASA to try to remedy. Unfortunately, Patrice was given this material after final production of September's 'The Portal'. But articles and more are forthcoming...

.........soooo just what did Nasa do? Better yet, what did the El Americano do?

....your thoughts????????

My thoughts are I think it's suspicious that this information just happens to be released at this time and by whom, scorpieauxgirl.

tingra wrote:

Roger wrote:

There was no such thing as NASA at that time.

I believe that the "El Americano" they're referring to was not Hughes but a military officer with connections to Hughes.

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so is there some wheat amongst the chaff then? ......Bizarre!!!!

Not sure if you know this but anyway, it's hard to seperate the wheat from the Chaff as you say. In other words the intelligence groups are knee deep in protecting any knowledge they deem of military significance esp. Even if it stems from legends. :roll:

So you don't know what and why they decided to release "gossip."

Anyway - Otto Rahn believed there were two bridges and he believed these bridges were closed. They were supposed to be access between worlds or where the veils were thin enough to allow access.
One was through the pyrenees and there was another one. (Sheila knows about the other one but I'm not sure to what extent, you can also find it in the stargate conspiracy although from memory they only mention one not two)

So he knew about them and he knew about the key to access them but he never states he knows the key can be used for access.

It based on compression of the geography and the spin of the earth producing a drag in certain areas. There is so much energy build-up which in turn creates a magnetic field in these areas that there is like a schism. (sorry that's probably not technically correct but it's something like it.)

Parson's was obviously caught up in it but the successful and probably the most high profile are actually Albert Einstein and Richard Phillips Feynman because as physicists they both had the ability to theorise and understand wormholes and folding space.

rain · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 12:39 pm

The legend of how Einstein got his White hair.

A few years back I came across a story of how Einstein got his white hair and it's always stuck with me.

The story goes something like this - Einstein disappeared for awhile and his whereabouts in his history was unaccounted for. Supposedly he was secunded to the swiss alps to work on time travel and he was successful but his hair turned white from the "stress" on his body. Supposedly the technology involved Tesla plates. Which as you know Tesla was the one that worked on the "philadelphia experiments." The philadelphia experiments were exposed in a book written by "CAPTAIN X" :lol:

(original hey) a former military someone or other that was involved in it.

So anyway a variant of the story has doing the boards for donkey's years.

EDIT TO ADD:- Here is a link exposing the inconsistences in the story of the philadelphia experiment probably designed as "straw-story" in the proto-arms race.

If you want a successful hoax this was one of the greater ones because of it's longevity - as you can see it's being invoked again.

Anatomy of a Hoax: The Philadelphia Experiment
Fifty Years Later
JACQUES F. VALLEE

http://www.scientificexploration.org/jo ... vallee.pdf

In the words of Norman Mailer, "if lying is an art, then fine lying is
a fine art" (Mailer, 1991).

scorpieauxgirl · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 2:21 pm

rain · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 4:12 pm

scorpieauxgirl I've got nothing to do with Xochi Adams I only know her from this forum and the books. Quest books - Publishing House of the Theosophical Society in America.

She publishes for the Theosophical society in America so they have their own "view" on things. It's complicated.

I'm fine you're not stepping on any boundaries AFAIK.

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I'm just fascinated by City of Secrets and The Portal. I've read them both 3 times and it seems I may understand less in some ways and more in others. It's just such a cool story, I guess I want to believe every nugget, but my sensibility wants to question each and every nugget as well. And I even get this weird feeling that I should just leave it alone and quit trying to dissect it......like it's a "bad" thing somehow and I really need to just quit thinking about it all together.....but then good old curiosity keeps tapping me on the shoulder.

It's an interesting subject, but it's also one filled with lies, counter lies and probably statistics. :lol:

In amongst that is probably the truth. Le Grande Veritas.

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I actually found the info about Howard Hughes on Patrices Facebook page. I was looking thru the photos, particularly one of the Frenchwomans garden, under the caption where people post comments was this bit about Howard Hughes. If I'm not mistaken, her facebook page is run by her publisher/promoter??? Quest books maybe. It says it is run by Xochi Adame and Patrice Chaplin. That picture was posted 7-15-2010. It is the 2nd pic if you click on wall photos. It is just after a pic of Patrice and Andrew. Be sure to scroll all the way down to read the post and comments.

If it was true and the "Frenchwoman's" garden was raided what do you think they were looking for?

rain · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 4:49 pm

Roger wrote:

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what do you think they were looking for?what do you think they were looking for?

Racine de Mandragore... for their homonculus recipe.

I take it you mean this:-

http://bestiary.ca/beasts/beast1098.htm

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The source of the plant has been described thus: "The human shape of the mandrake root has probably helped to foster, if it did not originate, the weird notion that the plant springs from the drippings of a man hanged on a gallows. Hence in Germany the plant bears the popular name of the Little Gallows Man. It is, or used to be, believed in that country that when a hereditary thief, born of a family of thieves, or one whose mother stole while he was in her womb, is hanged on a gallows, and his seed or urine falls on the ground, the mandrake or Little Gallows Man sprouts on the spot. Others, however, say that the human progenitor of the plant must be, not a thief, but an innocent and chaste youth who has been forced by torture falsely to declare himself a thief and has consequently ended his days on a gallows. Be that as it may, the one thing about which all are agreed is that the Little Gallows Man grows under the gallows tree from the bodily droppings of a hanged man." ( Frazer, p. 9)

rain · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 5:37 pm

Roger wrote:

Not really. It was just an illustration of the absurdity of it all. But thanks for explaining it to the others anyway.

You're welcome, I try hard to use my Harry Potter Wizarding skills for Good not evil, I'm glad it's paid off. :lol:

scorpieauxgirl · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 5:42 pm

Caelum · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 7:33 pm

rain wrote:

Roger wrote:

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what do you think they were looking for?what do you think they were looking for?

Racine de Mandragore... for their homonculus recipe.

I take it you mean this:-

http://bestiary.ca/beasts/beast1098.htm

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The source of the plant has been described thus: "The human shape of the mandrake root has probably helped to foster, if it did not originate, the weird notion that the plant springs from the drippings of a man hanged on a gallows. Hence in Germany the plant bears the popular name of the Little Gallows Man. It is, or used to be, believed in that country that when a hereditary thief, born of a family of thieves, or one whose mother stole while he was in her womb, is hanged on a gallows, and his seed or urine falls on the ground, the mandrake or Little Gallows Man sprouts on the spot. Others, however, say that the human progenitor of the plant must be, not a thief, but an innocent and chaste youth who has been forced by torture falsely to declare himself a thief and has consequently ended his days on a gallows. Be that as it may, the one thing about which all are agreed is that the Little Gallows Man grows under the gallows tree from the bodily droppings of a hanged man." ( Frazer, p. 9)

I think what he actually meant was more along the lines of "Oh, Jacopo, lets! I'd love to have your homunculus, and then we could keep it like a dachshund."

Caelum · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 7:36 pm

rain wrote:

Roger wrote:

Not really. It was just an illustration of the absurdity of it all. But thanks for explaining it to the others anyway.

You're welcome, I try hard to use my Harry Potter Wizarding skills for Good not evil, I'm glad it's paid off. :lol:

It definitely paid off - familiar with Hellboy...?

Caelum · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 7:48 pm

On a more serious note, I'd love to see some input on this from Xochi Adame, or even have Andrew ask Patrice about it. Obviously this was a PR piece, probably penned by Xochi, but it makes some wild claims which are then unsubstantiated by the book itself. It also on some level makes a complete mockery of the entire subject - I would be interested in what Patrice thinks about that.

Caelum · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 7:54 pm

Roger wrote:

California definitely has an adverse effect on the human intellect.

Awww. That wasn't very friendly - I truly thought you'd be pleased by the Eco homunculus quote, as it dovetailed nicely with your point. And surely you can't fault me for being unable to resist the synchronicity of Roger the Homunculus?

rain · **Posted:** 16 Feb 2011 10:34 pm

Caelum wrote:

On a more serious note, I'd love to see some input on this from Xochi Adame, or even have Andrew ask Patrice about it. Obviously this was a PR piece, probably penned by Xochi, but it makes some wild claims which are then unsubstantiated by the book itself. It also on some level makes a complete mockery of the entire subject - I would be interested in what Patrice thinks about that.

* Now I think about it, it might be commander X not captain X that penned the Philadelphia experiment.

As for the entertainment, I think we're it, literally.

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