Arcadia Discussion Zone

So Caelum, are you a Santa Cruz cold-water surfer?

"Caelum" means "sky" in Latin, right? Santa Cruz rocks.

Sorry, Renne, I am just now seeing your post! I do indeed immerse myself regularly in the frigid ocean here, but I am an avid bodysurfer, rather than a board surfer. Caelum does mean "sky" in Latin leading to "ciel" in French and "cieling" in English.

You must read "Surfer" magazine Caelum, what do you think of the guys who surf the

"thick and ugly" waves at this deep ocean site? It`s off the coast of West Africa - right?

I don't read Surfer magazine, or anything else about surfing - I just get in the water every day as I have since I was a tot...

Did you at least see the film of the deep ocean Big Wave Riders produced by I-MAX?
Surf photography has really changed since the `60s with the speed and new technology
- those photogs are right in the waves.



Getting back to Patrice - surf and sand - have you ever heard of the booming dunes?
The quartz crystal sand makes a booming sound as it moves which reminds me of Patrice`s
F-sharp tone. The singing sand is said to produce the lowest note on the organ keyboard.

Is the Lamb a plant or an animal? Maybe it's a plantimal....(no, I didn't make this up)

The Scythian Lamb....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_Lamb_of_Tartary

Guillaume de Saluste, the Sieur du Bartas, writes of the vegetable lamb in his poem La Semaine (1587). In the poem, Adam wanders the Garden of Eden and is amazed by the peculiarity of the creature. Joshua Sylvester translates:[15]

But with true beasts, fast in the ground still sticking
Feeding on grass, and th’ airy moisture licking,
Such as those Borametz in Scythia bred
Of slender seeds, and with green fodder fed;
Although their bodies, noses, mouths, and eyes,
Of new-yeaned lambs have full the form and guise,
And should be very lambs, save that for foot
Within the ground they fix a living root
Which at their navel grows, and dies that day
That they have browzed the neighboring grass away.
Oh! Wondrous nature of God only good,
The beast hath root, the plant hath flesh and blood.
The nimble plant can turn it to and fro,
The nummed beast can neither stir nor goe,
The plant is leafless, branchless, void of fruit,
The beast is lustless, sexless, fireless, mute:
The plant with plants his hungry paunch doth feede,
Th’ admired beast is sowen a slender seed.


Hmmm....that would place the Scythians "in the beginning." Sure did have some weird things around back then...

That wouldn't be an "S" on the wall would it? Scythian Lamb...too funny.

DO NOT READ PAST HERE:

It could be said, that the royal Scythians are now Clan Robertson. The plant badge for Clan Robertson is....bracken/fern! Imagine that! (That isn't an R wrapped around that S, is it?)

The lamb as a plant, that would make perfect sense.

It would be an Rx plant of course and is the real bread and wine

of the Last Supper.



Detail from Abbe Sauniere`s robe, compare to the above lamb from the Mt. Bugarach church -

it`s the lamb with the 7 seals from the Book of Revelation.

the plant was known as Barometz, which looks fairly familiar; Baphomet

And the Scythian Lamb was known to have GOLDEN FLEECE...(and it comes from the correct area to be the golden fleece of old.)

The guys in the picture at the link above look a whole lot like this guy....(Yakut Shaman)




Wonder if Merlin looked like this? (gotta have a pair of them boots)
Or is it Santa Clause (maybe we really do worship the great white god at christmas)

That is Ded Moroz, who my children (from Russia) know also as Father Frost - sort of a Santa Claus figure, but a little different. He does look a little like the Patriarch though!

He's the Democrat version of Santa...

Yakut shamans attach as much iron to their costumes as possible to frighten off evil spirits

with the noise.



Siberian shaman.

From this website, an interesting guest article by Douglas Gibson entitled "Magic Squares", that makes reference to Patrice's book. Thank you, Douglas.

http://www.andrewgough.co.uk/guest_magicsquares.html

Hebrew Magic Square amulet. As a 4 square, which planet does it represent?

I think it depends on the Shaman as to what the robe is made of. The Yakut shamans are light or dark (black or white)...two different types, to perform different work. I saw one shaman's robe that was all feathers...this shaman performed work to help lost souls.

Sudoku?
Ugh!!!!!

Magic square coins, one figure represents Leo and the sun, the lower one is

a conjunction of planets. The 4-sqaure magic square is the Jupiter square. Thanks

for the info. about the Siberian shamansic traditions, I`d only studied the historic ones.



A "sigil" is actually the signature of the spirit. Some crop circle formations resemble the sigils used by

the alchemists. The Kabbalists used the sigils of the archangels.

Hey Renne, where are your coins from?

Oh...and I got a video for you....yakut shaman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArJ1cgYpERg

(If this is the video I think it is...it should show the shaman pillars next to some electrical wires....old meets new)

Thank you so much Serendipity, that was really beautiful. What fantastic costumes

they have in these modern times. You could see the old outfit hanging on the wall with

the iron clackers hanging on it. That was very therapeutic. I do think that the Girona and

Yakut traditions are very different even though they both reference "magic" and trances.

I`ll see where those magic square coins came from.

This explanation goes with the above illus. of the magic square coins:

"By the beginning of the sixteenth century, magic squares were beginning to appear in Western Europe. In 1531, Agrippa's treatise explained his beliefs in the occult significance of magic squares, and their relationship to the heavenly bodies. 8 years later, Cardano published a paper in which he showed the order of the squares reversed from that of Agrippa.
During the rest of the sixteenth and all of the seventeenth centuries medallions, amulets, and coins were all the rage in western Europe. To the left is the thumbnail of an image from an early eighteenth century newspaper.
Below are thumbnails of a series of 7 coins which each show one of the magic squares from 3 to 9. I do not show the reverse of each coin.
These images were kindly supplied to me by Paul Heimbach, a German artist who has worked extensively with magic squares." His website is at

http://www.artype.de/quadrate/index.html



A 3-D magic square "Frost Cube" art piece.

Renne, very interesting on the magic squares.

I just I would update a bit on the music stimulation of altered states of consciousness - give me a bit, just got busy.

Oh yes, that great prayer bowl and the importance of it. That much preparation and guidance

is needed for a quest like that. I`m reading "The Portal" for a 2nd time and just went through the

cave at Cadaques. Sound was a big part of that site!



Tibetan singing bowl, water can be used to alter the pitch. This technique is also used in pueblo

water drums, the metal bowl base is filled with water before the leather drumhead it tied on.

I downloaded sequencia awhile back when we were talking about music affecting our bodies. I wanted to try it out.

http://www.oursounduniverse.com/music_samples.html

Music therapy as vibrations, very interesting. The Girona lady Cabalist friend of Andrew and Patrice

passed away yesterday, she was blonde (older) and very strong looking - I wonder....

Is this the lady that took her on the initiates journey?

.......and did Patrice have 2 sons or 2 daughters??? The book contradicts itself, unless I'm mistaken because I have crammed so much info into my brain in too short a time. In her "Acceptance" portion of the journey did she not want to accept what had happened to her daughter by her son in law??? I thought I read somewhere else about her two young sons.......sorry I may be wrong....but could someone steer me in the right direction.

Thanks