They didn't form an organization in and of themselves, although they commonly belonged to a small number of neo-chivalric organizations. Most notably ex-King Peter of Yugoslavia's Order of St. John and the Order of St. Lazarus. Some were also episcopi vagantes.
Very Interesting TCP Episcopi vagantes are persons who have been consecrated as Christian bishops outside the structures and canon law of the established churches, and who are not in communion with any generally recognized diocese. Also included are those who have in communion with them small groups that appear to exist solely for the bishop's sake. Those described as wandering bishops often see the term as pejorative.Many episcopi vagantes claim succession from the Old Catholic See of Utrecht, or from Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, or Eastern Catholic Churches. A few others derive their orders from Roman Catholic bishops who have consecrated their own bishops after disputes with the Holy See.(
I know most of my connections here in America goes in line with the Lazarists and the Vincentians and a bit with the Jesuits
Dubourg and associates are involved in all the sites I see...
They seem to know the myth and legend
It is like they knew a prophecy and it was embedded until that time it was to be revealed
TCP this is interestingThe Old Catholic Church is a Christian denomination originating with groups that split from the Holy See because they disagreed with essential doctrines. The church is not in communion with the Holy See, though the Union of Utrecht of Old Catholic Churches is in full communion with the Anglican Communion and a member of the World Council of Churches
The term "Old Catholic" was first used in 1853 to describe the members of the See of Utrecht who did not recognise any claimed 'infallible' papal authority. As the groups that split from the Holy See in the 1870s had no bishop, they joined Utrecht to form the Union of Utrecht.Four disputes set the stage for an independent Bishopric of Utrecht: the Concordat of Worms, the First Lateran Council and Fourth Lateran Council, and the concession of Pope Leo X. In the 12th century, there was a great Investiture Controversy where the Holy Roman Emperor and the Pope fought over who could appoint Bishops. In 1122, the Concordat of Worms was signed making peace. The Emperor renounced the right to invest ecclesiastics with ring and crosier, the symbols of their spiritual power, and guaranteed election by the canons of cathedral or abbey and free consecration. The Emperor Henry V and Pope Calixtus II ended the feud by granting one another peace.The Concordat was confirmed by the First Council of the Lateran in 1123.
two big points were the infallibility of the Pope and celibacy of priests
thing is they reject the Jesuits
Plantard said he was for revealing it...where the American contingent disagreed
Unfortunately the power has shifted here in America ...to leaning to Rome
heavily....America was the cash cow for the Vatican but that cash cow has diminished tremendously
They didn't belong to Plantard's "Priory" nor was Plantard their Grand Master. And by incorporating elements of their myth into his own, Plantard was indeed exposing it to a degree of public scrutiny they were not comfortable with at all. He sought publicity; they sought limited exposure in certain circles to avoid the glare of public scrutiny. The damage could have been contained to the French-speaking world had Baigent, Lincoln and Leigh not gotten involved. They saw Plantard as nothing but a light-seeking pest who had attached himself to Philippe de Chérisey, who was part of the inner circle. Which put Chérisey in a very uncomfortable position as the one who had brought Plantard to their periphery in the first place.
The French myth was known here in the US by the inner groups here
Like you said Baigent Lincoln and Leigh just exposed it more...but one has to wonder with the Dead Sea Scrolls found
and other archeological finds coming through ....was it better to expose it that way than officially
Pope Benedict has changed his view on condoms ...making their use allowable to prevent the spread of aids
His position on Limbo has changed
I commend the Pope for being brave here and changing his position
Like Brown says in his Angels and Demons final scene
the cardinal said it The Pope is a man therefore he makes mistakes
Think about it TCP ...this point was brought up a long time ago