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 Post subject: The Origo of Merovech/Meroveus the Merovingian
PostPosted: 04 Oct 2010 4:15 am 
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ATTILA, KING OF THE HUNS.


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45. Eudoxius. Bagauds. Meroveus. Alberon.
Eudoxius, a physician, had been drawn into a faction of rebels in Gaul, who, being pushed to extremities by the extortions of the nobles and clergy, had first revolted in the reign of Diocletian under the denomination of Bagauds, and had since made head under the guidance of Tibato against the Roman authority. They were everywhere defeated and severely handled, and Eudoxius was the only man of importance amongst the movers of that sedition who escaped, and he took refuge at the Hunnish court. He is described as a bad, but able, man; and from him it is supposed that Attila received much information concerning the actual state of Gaul, and encouragement to attempt its invasion. It is observable, that the organization of the faction called Bagauds seems to have been the only popular attempt to vindicate civil rights under the domination of the Western emperors.
Meroveus, against whom the arms of Attila were now directed, was the illegitimate son of Clodion, and his master of the horse. The dynasty of the Marcomirians ended with Clodion the son of Pharamond and grandson of Marcomir; and Meroveus, a traitor, an usurper, and alien to the blood royal, being illegitimate, founded a new dynasty. Fredegarius, writing in 641, says that the mother of Meroveus was bathing on the coast and was attacked by a sea-monster, who became the father of Meroveus. This fable has evident relation to his illegitimacy. The writer who there cites Fredegarius from Gregory of Tours considers the Marobudos or Maroboduus who lived in the time of Augustus and Tiberius to have been an earlier Meroveus, the former name being the Augustan, the latter the recent Gallo-Latin version of the Teutonic name Maerwu or Merwu. He also shows that the Merovingian kings called themselves by that title, (which makes it appear that they affected to be a new dynasty, and not inheritors from Clodion) by authorities dating AD 641 as above, AD 645 and 720, the last being thirty years before the restoration of the rightful heirs by the elevation of Pepin.
Mezeray states that Clodion left three sons (the eldest having died) Alberon, Regnault, and Rangcaire, who were too young to reign, and therefore the states elected Meroveus his bastard son. He boasts of his exploits in the Catalaunian victory, of which he attributes the principal honor to him, but entirely suppresses the cause of that war, which was to re-establish the rightful king whom he had expelled: and he adds incorrectly that, when firmly fixed in Gaul, he went to succor the sons of Clodion and establish them in Hainault, Brabant, and Namur; saying that on his return from that expedition he died in the tenth year of his reign in 458.
The historian Priscus, who was at the court of Attila on an embassy in 448, when Clodion was alive or on the point of death, never saw Alberon the rightful heir, who had not at that time had recourse to the Huns. At some antecedent period not ascertained, he had however seen Meroveus on an embassy at Rome, a beardless youth with long yellow hair falling over his shoulders, and he says that Aetius, having adopted him as his son and loaded him with gifts, despatched him to the emperor to acquire his friendship and enjoy his society in martial exercises. There is some obscurity however in the passage, for the word presbenúmenos, acting the part of a legate, must apply to a mission from the Francs, and could not refer to his visit at the court of Valentinian under the recommendation of the Roman general Aetius.

It seems that Priscus meant that Meroveus was at Rome as an ambassador when he saw him, and was at some subsequent period sent by Aetius to carouse with Valentinian, probably at Ravenna.

Looking to the subtle character and constant double dealing of Aetius, it can scarcely be doubted, that when he adopted Meroveus and sent him to Valentinian, he had intended to sow future dissensions in the family of Clodion, and to make use of Meroveus for the furtherance of his own schemes, whether against the inheritance of the Franc king or against the throne of Valentinian, or, as is most probable, against both: and, in directing him to be pre­sented to the emperor as the son of Clodion, with a view to the acquisition of his society and friendship, it is not likely that either Aetius or Meroveus should have put forward his illegitimacy; nor was it probable that Priscus, a Greek sophist of Constantinople, accidentally seeing this beardless young Franc at Rome, should have been informed at the time of his spurious birth. When Meroveus seized the throne and expelled Alberon who fled to the Huns, it was a matter of notoriety to all Europe that Alberon was the rightful heir and eldest son of Clodion, and if Priscus was not aware of the illegitimacy of Meroveus, he must have concluded that he was younger than him to whom the inheritance appertained. His silence as to the name of the banished king is proof that he had not very ample information concerning the transaction, and perhaps only knew the little which he states; and, living at Constantinople far from the scene of action, he may have fallen very naturally into an error on the point of seniority. If Meroveus had succeeded to the throne of his lawful father, though to the prejudice of an elder brother, his accession would not have been that of a new dynasty, and, instead of being called Merovingian kings, he and his descendants would from the first have been named after Pharamond the sire or Marcomir the grandsire of Clodion.

The brief expression therefore of Priscus, that the elder son of Clodion sought the assistance of the Huns, the younger that of Aetius, is insufficient to outweigh the far greater probability of the fact as related by other writers, that Meroveus was in fact the oldest, though not the legitimate, son of Clodion. The lineal genealogy runs thus:— 1. Marcomir.—2. Pharamond.—3. Clodion who died 448.—4. Alberon, d.491.—5. Wambert, d. 529—6. Ambert, d. 570. (collateral Wambert 2.)—7. Arnold, d. 601.—8. St. Arnulf, d. 641.—9. Ansegisus, d. 685.— 10. Pepin, d. 714.—11. Charles Martell, d. 741.—12. Pepin, d. 768.—13. Charlemagne, and so on, till the occupation of the throne by Hugh Capet in 987, when the Marcomirian line became extinct.
John Bertels abbot of Epternach collected all the traditions and chronicles he could find in the convents of Luxemberg and Ardennes. He states that Clodion Capillatus married Basina daughter of Widelph duke of the Thuringians, probably sister to Basinus who was duke when Attila was in Thuringia. She bore him four sons, Phrison, Alberon or Auberon, Reginald, and Rauchas. Phrison died very young of an arrow-shot, and the grief of that loss hastened the death of his father. Clodion by his will appointed his bastard son Meroveus, who was his master of the horse, to be regent and guardian of his sons.

For some years he acted with fidelity, but when the Roman arms were pressing on the Francs, he tendered his resignation, declining the responsibility of administering the affairs of another person in such a crisis, and knowing that his authority and skill were necessary at the moment. The result was conformable to his expectations. The Francs proclaimed him king, and he took the crown, whereupon queen Basina sent her three sons for safety to Thuringia. Some years afterwards Alberon took counsel how he should recover his rights and destroy Meroveus and his progeny; Meroveus at the same time meditating the like against him and his kindred.

With these views Alberon married Argotta daughter of Theodemir king of the Goths, formed a strict alliance with the Goths, Vandals, Bohems, and Ostrogoths, and by their aid recovered possession of Arduenna, Lower Alsatia, Brabantia, Cameracum, and Turnacum, and obtained the title of Rex Cameracensis. His chief residence however was in the Nemus Carbonarium, a part of the forest of Ardennes, where he sacrificed to idols and fortified Mons Hannoniae (Mons in Hainault), as an asylum against the malice of Meroveus. Argotta bore him Wambert, who married a daughter of the emperor Zeno.
A lieutenant under Clovis conquered Brabant and Flanders about the year 492, and took king Alberon and his two brothers prisoners, whom the French king barbarously slew with his own hand, as soon as they were brought into his presence. He afterwards affected remorse, and endeavored to allure Wambert into his power, in order to cut off the last remnant of Clodion’s legitimate heirs. Wambert was however too wary, and placed his sons Wambert and Anselbert (or Ambert), under the safeguard of Theodoric king of Italy and the emperor Zeno who made them senators of the Eastern empire.
About AD 520 Wambert recovered Ardennes and Hainault, to which possessions the senator Wambert the second succeeded on his death in 528, by favor of Childebert king of Paris, who also gave Anselbert the marquisate of Moselle and Scheld, of which the seat of government was on the latter river. The senator Wambert, who espoused St. Clotilda daughter of Almeric king of Italy, was succeeded by a third Wambert his son.
Such is the statement of Bertels. The only inaccuracy, which appears on the face of it, is that the events, which took place between the death of Clodion in 448, and the flight of Alberon to the Huns previous to Attila’s invasion of Gaul in 451, a space of only three years, appear to be extended over a longer, though indefinite, period. With this limitation, that Meroveus could not have continued faithful above two years, and that Alberon immediately sought assistance to recover his rights, there is no reason to doubt that the account of Bertels is substantially correct. He was unacquainted with the writings of Priscus, and appears to have known nothing about Attila and his Huns; yet, except what relates to the inferior age of Meroveus, he affords collateral evidence from quite different sources, which is confirmed by the account of the Greek sophist; for it is evident that the Goths, with whom Bertels states Alberon to have made alliance, were the great confederacy of nations headed by Attila and brought by him on the occasion of the disputed succession of Clodion into the celebrated field of Chalons.
The Thuringian writers of the middle ages make mention of the movements of Attila, and state that he was in Thuringia and at Eisenach. The Danish writer, professor Suhm, referring to the Thuringian authors, states his disbelief of the existence of Eisenach in the days of Attila, and thinks that Erfurt, anciently called Bicurgium, was the place intended. Sidonius Apollinaris mentions Toringus (the Thuringian) amongst the people who invaded Belgium under the command of Attila. German histories unknown to Bertelius and only seen in MS. by Lazius, affirm that Attila held a diet of his kings and dukes in Thuringia before he set out to invade Gaul. Putting these concurrent accounts together, it seems that Attila held a diet in Thuringia, where he heard the plaint of queen Basina and her sons, and proceeded to act thereupon. Henning in his Universal Genealogy gives the following statement: Clodio crinitus had, by …, Meroveus, who married Verica daughter of Guntraum king of Sweden, and died AD 458, and by Basina daughter of Widelph king of Thuringia Albero or Alberic from whom the Carolingians are descended, Rauches or Roches lord of Cambray, and Reginald king of the Eburi who married Wamberga daughter of Alaric the first king of the Visigoths in Spain. Albero warred under Attila, hoping to recover the scepter of his father, of which his brother Meroveus had taken forcible possession. Being defeated he retreated to his own people, (meaning his Belgic or Cameracan subjects) being careful not to fall into the hands of Meroveus, and died about 491.

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 Post subject: Re: The Origo of Merovech/Meroveus the Merovingian
PostPosted: 04 Oct 2010 5:26 am 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovech

Merovech (c.415- c.458) (Latin: Meroveus or Merovius) is the semi-legendary founder of the Merovingian dynasty of the Salian Franks (although Chlodio may in fact be the founder), which later became the dominant Frankish tribe. He allegedly lived in the first half of the fifth century. His name is a Latinization of a form close to the Old High German given name Marwig, lit. "famed fight" (cf. māri "famous" + wīg "fight") compare modern Dutch mare "renowned" and vecht "fight".[1] The first Frankish royal dynasty called themselves Merovingians ("descendants of Meroveus") after him.

There is little information about him in the later histories of the Franks. Gregory of Tours only names him once as the father of Childeric I while putting doubt on his descent from Chlodio.[2] Many admit today that this formulation finds its explanation in a legend reported by Fredegar.[3] The Chronicle of Fredegar interpolated on this reference by Gregory by adding Merovech was the son of the queen, Chlodio's wife; but his father was a sea-god, bistea Neptuni.[4] No other historical evidence exists that Merovech ever lived. Some researchers have noted that Merovech, the Frankish chieftain, may have been the namesake of a certain god or demigod honored by the Franks prior to their conversion to Christianity. It has been suggested Merovech refers to or is reminiscent to the Dutch river Merwede,[5] nowadays part of the Rhine-Meus-Scheldt delta but historically a main subsidiary of the Rhine, in the area where, according to Roman historians, the Salian Franks once dwelled. Another theory[6] considers this legend to be the creation of a mythological past needed to back up the fast-rising Frankish rule in Western Europe.

According to another legend, Merovech was conceived when Pharamond's wife encountered a Quinotaur, a sea monster which could change shapes while swimming. Though never stated, it is implied that she was impregnated by it. This legend was related by Fredegar in the seventh century and may have been known earlier. The legend is probably a back-formation or folk etymology used to explain the Salian Franks' origin as a sea coast dwelling people and was based on the name itself. The "Mero-" or "Mer-" element in the name suggests a sea or ocean (see Old English "mere," Latin "mare," or even the Modern English word "mermaid", etc.). The "Salian" in "Salian Franks" may be a reference to salt, a reminder of their pre-migration home on the shores of the North Sea (alternatively, it may refer to the Isala or IJssel river behind which their homeland, the Salland, may have been located). The legend could also be explained in a much easier way. The sea monster could have been a foreign conqueror, coming from the sea, taking the dead king's (Chlodio or Pharamond) wife to legitimise his rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinotaur

The Quinotaur is a mythical sea creature mentioned in the 7th century Frankish Chronicle of Fredegar. Referred to as "bestea Neptuni Quinotauri similis",[1] (the beast of Neptune which resembles a Quinotaur) it was held to have fathered Meroveus by attacking the wife of the Frankish king Chlodio and thus to have sired the line of Merovingian kings.

The name translates from Latin as "bull with five horns", whose attributes have commonly been interpreted as the incorporated symbols of the sea god Neptune with his trident, and the horns of a mythical bull or Minotaur. It is not known whether the legend merged both elements by itself or whether this merger should be attributed to the Christian author.[2] The clerical Latinity of the name does not indicate whether it is a translation of some genuine Frankish creature or a coining.

The suggested rape and subsequent family relation of this monster attributed to Frankish mythology, correspond to both the Indo-European etymology of Neptune (from PIE '*nepots', "grandson" or "nephew", compare also the Indic and Avestan 'Apam Napat', "grandson/nephew of the water")[3] and to bull-related fertility myths in Greek mythology, where for example the Phoenician princess Europa was abducted by the god Zeus, in the form of a white bull, that swam her to Crete.

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Gerard de Sede implied this Quinotaur was a creature from Sirius, linking the Merovingians to the Nommos of Robert Temple's Sirius Mystery in La Race Fabuleuse.

I've always said it's odd people often ignore this theory of "Merovingian significance" in favor of BLL's "Jesus-MM bloodline". At least de Sede put it in print; it wasn't the result of a guess from a brainstorming session.

However, given the importance of Sirius in the oeuvre of Surrealism, Oulipo, etc., I've always felt this aspect, like many others, should be taken non-literally, and as a cue to other questions and linkages.

But, there's also this.
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This depiction of a "Quinotaur" was drawn by Sir Francis Dashwood, notorious founder of the Hellfire Club, and co-conspirator of Arch-Mason, Ben Franklin. It is believed to have been drawn on Dashwood's first trip to Italy, and based on a statue from the palace of Nero.

http://phoenicia.org/europa.html

Europa was the beautiful daughter of the Phoenician king of Tyre, Agenor. Zeus, the King of the gods according to Greek mythology, saw Europa as she was gathering flowers by the sea and immediately fell in love with her.

Overwhelmed by love for Europa, Zeus transformed himself into the form of a magnificent white bull and appeared in the sea shore where Europa was playing with her maidens. The great bull walked gently over to where Europa stood and knelt at her feet. The appearance and movements of the bull were so gentle that Europa spread flowers about his neck and dared to climb upon his back overcoming her natural fear of the great animal.

But suddenly, the bull rushed over the sea abducting Europa. Only then the bull revealed its true identity and took Europa to the Mediterranean island of Crete. There, Zeus cast off the shape of the white bull, and back into his human form, made Europa his lover beneath a simple cypress tree. Europa became the first queen of Crete and had by Zeus three sons: King Minos of Crete, King Rhadamanthus of the Cyclades Islands, and, according to some legends, Prince Sarpedon of Lycia. She later married the king of Crete, who adopted her sons, and she was worshiped under the name of Hellotis in Crete, where the festival Hellotia was held in her honour. At last, Zeus reproduced the shape of the white bull, used by Zeus to seduce Europa, in the stars. Even today we can recognize its shape in the constellation Taurus.

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Who was Europa?

Some say that the father of this Phoenician princess was Agenor, but others say that it was Phoenix, who some claim was her brother. Her mother is unknown.

Agenor was by birth an Egyptian, but he departed to Phoenicia and reigned there. According to some Agenor is the son of Poseidon & Libya, but others say that his parents were Belus & Anchinoe. King Belus of Egypt was son of Poseidon & Libya, and was also the father of Aegyptus and Danaus. His mother Libya was, in turn, daughter of Epaphus & Memphis, and King Epaphus of Egypt, from whom sprang the Libyans and the Ethiopians, was the founder of the city of Memphis in Egypt and the son of Zeus & Io, the girl who was once turned into a cow, but who is one of the Three Main Ancestors. If Phoenix would be considered to be the father of Europa, everything would amount to the same, because Phoenix, after whom Phoenicia is called, is said to be the son either of Agenor or of Belus, and we would, also in this way, arrive to Io. Nothing is known about Europa's presumptive mothers.

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Agenor's name may also be the source of the "Aegean".

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Notes on the Tribe of Benjamin, the Left Hand of Israel

The ‘pagan tribe of Israel’, devotees of Great Baal and Asherah

Earliest History

Habiru, essentially ‘gypsies’, a generic term for Semitic nomads used by both the Egyptians and Canaanites, move into Palestine, and later Egypt, from Mesopotamia. One particularly dangerous ‘raiding band’ known as the Ben Yamin. Said to be nomadic ‘Baal worshippers’ whose territorial routes were blocked when land is enclosed by first city dwellers. This event is also the source of the Cain and Abel myth.

Even in biblical times : ‘Benjamin shall ravin [as] a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil’.
The wolf is regarded by some as the totemic animal of the tribe (just as the lion is for Judah).

Habiru settle in Palestine. Some become mercenaries of the Asiatic Hyksos army which invades Palestine from north.

Hyksos invade Egypt and become its new rulers. Habiru incorporated. Confederal State formed from several semi-autonomous local kingdoms (some Hyksos, and other Semites, some still native Egyptian, including Kingdom of Thebes).

Theban Egyptians, under ultra-nationalistic Priesthood of Amun, overthrow and expel Hyksos and all foreigners, particularly Semites. Reunify country under a traditional centralised Imperial State. Possibly other Egyptians support Hyksos against Thebans (including an Anti-Amunist ‘Atenist’ aristocrat called Moses?) and expelled with them.

The ‘Hebrews’ arrive in Palestine.

’Manetho, an Egyptian priest who lived around 250 BC, recounted that according to the Egyptian records, the Hebrews of the Exodus were known as Hyksos, and as Bernal noted, ever since late antiquity, writers have seen links between them and the Greek legends of the arrival of Cadmus and Danaus in Arcadia. To Heccataeus of Abdera, a Greek historian of the fourth century BC, the Egyptian expulsion of the Hyksos, the Israelite Exodus, and Danaus’ landing in Arcadia, were three parallel versions of the same story. Referring to the Egyptians he says’:

‘The natives of the land surmised that unless they removed the foreigners their troubles would never be resolved. At once, therefore, the aliens were driven from the country but the most outstanding and active among them banded together and, as some say, were cast ashore in Greece and certain other regions; their teachers were notable men, among them being Danaus and Cadmus. But the greater number were driven into what is now called Judea, which is not far from Egypt and at that time was utterly uninhabited. The colony was headed by a man called Moses’.

History

The tribe of Benjamin gains territory – Jericho, Jerusalem, Bethhoglah, Zelah, Eleph, Gibeath and Kirjath. But not always violently it seems, unlike other tribes.

’Now the cities of the tribe of the children of Benjamin according to their families were Jericho, and Bethhoglah, and the valley of Keziz’. ’They also took Jebu (Jerusalem). And the children of Benjamin did not drive out the (pagan) Jebusites that inhabited Jerusalem; but the Jebusites dwell with the children of Benjamin in Jerusalem unto this day’.

"Zelah, Eleph and Jebusi, which is Jerusalem, Gibeath and Kirjath; fourteen cities with their villages. This is the inheritance of the children of Benjamin according to their families." - Joshua 18:28

Tribe of the Left Hand Path?

In Judaic mythology : ‘The Tribe of Benjamin stood unique among the Tribes of Israel in certain respects. The only son born within the borders of Canaan, Benjamin was also, therefore, the only son of Jacob not joining Jacob-Israel in making a symbolic, and perhaps prophetic, bow before Esau and his four-hundred warriors upon their return to the land of Canaan. Rachel had died giving birth to him. As she was dying she named him "Benoni", meaning "son of my sorrow", but this name was changed to "Benjamin", meaning "son of the right hand" by Jacob afterwards. This might have been as a result of Benjamin as a small boy lifting his left hand to Jacob's right hand when learning to walk. The left hand was not the one generally used for such contacts as it was, by convention, reserved to the less-sanitary requirements of life, and thus the act would be noted. Curiously, Scripture mentions of Benjamin's descendants, a number of these notable for the characteristic of being left-handed’.

The Benjaminites were believed to have introduced the orgiastic Golden Calf cult to Israel (a Baal or Asherah cult). Their tribal festival is believed to have been Dec 23rd. (*)

The Tribe of Benjamin (Benjaminites) was divided into three (or four) clans:

Belah (Belaites), ‘Destroyers’; Ahiram (Ahiramites), ‘Brothers of Craft’ (Freemasonry is packed with Benjaminite motifs); and Ashbel (Ashbelites), ‘People of the Ancient Fire’. A possible division of warrior, craftsman/farmer and priest specialisations?

Becher (Becherites), ‘the First Born’, seems to be a forth Clan that either died out or emigrated(?)

The Families of the Belah Clan were : Ard (Ardites), ‘the Fallen Ones’ and Naaman (Naamites), ‘the Beautiful Ones’.

The Families of the Ahiram Clan appear to be : Huppim (Huppimites), ‘Those of Seashore’, Muppim (Muppimites), ‘Those of the Mouth’, Shuppim (Shuppimites),?

The Families of the Ashbel Clan appear to be: Rosh (Roshites) ‘Those of the Head, Gera (Gerites), ‘Those of Enmity’, Ehi (Ehites), ‘Those Who Praise’.

Israel - Benjaminite War

When the Levites led a ‘revenge attack’ on the ‘children of Belial’, the Canaanite worshippers of Belial, an old name for Astarte, they were defended by their neighbours the Tribe of Benjamin, who were also suspected of goddess worship. A war began which Israel eventually won. Though the Benjaminites were saved from annihilation (900 out of 26,000) and allowed to take Canaanite wives to repopulate their cities.

As the Davidic record tells it:

‘Now therefore deliver up to us the men, the children of Belial, which are in Gibeah, that we may put them to death, and put away evil from Israel. But the children of Benjamin would not hearken to the voice of their brethren the children of Israel’

‘But the children of Benjamin gathered themselves together out of the cities unto Gibeah, to go out to battle against the children of Israel’.
‘And the children of Benjamin were numbered at that time out of the cities twenty and six thousand men that drew sword, beside the inhabitants of Gibeah, which were numbered seven hundred chosen men’. ‘And the men of Israel, beside Benjamin, were numbered four hundred thousand men that drew sword: all these were men of war’.

‘And the children of Israel arose, and went up to the house of God, and asked counsel of God, and said, Which of us shall go up first to the battle against the children of Benjamin? And the LORD said, Judah shall go up first’.

‘And the men of Israel went out to battle against Benjamin; and the men of Israel put themselves in array to fight against them at Gibeah’.
‘And the children of Benjamin came forth out of Gibeah, and destroyed down to the ground of the Israelites that day twenty and two thousand men’.

'And the children of Benjamin went out against the people, and were drawn away from the city; and they began to smite of the people, and kill, as at other times, about thirty men of Israel'.

'And the children of Benjamin said, They are smitten down before us, as at the first. But the children of Israel said, Let us flee, and draw them from the city unto the highways'.

'And the LORD smote Benjamin before Israel: and the children of Israel destroyed of the Benjamites that day twenty and five thousand and an hundred men: all these drew the sword. And the men of Israel turned again upon the children of Benjamin, and smote them with the edge of the sword, as well the men of [every] city, as the beast, and all that came to hand: also they set on fire all the cities that they came to'.

'So the children of Benjamin saw that they were smitten: for the men of Israel gave place to the Benjamites, because they trusted unto the ambushers which they had set beside Gibeah' . BOOK OF JUDGES

The Benjaminites were said to have been saved by the blessing of God on them.

’The Tribe of Benjamin had been singled out for a very special and exalted blessing, when in Deuteronomy 33:12, Moses pronounced blessings on the patriarchs of each of the twelve tribes. Of Benjamin, Moses said, "The beloved of the Lord shall dwell in safety by him; and the Lord shall cover him all the day long, and he shall dwell between his shoulders." ‘ This last point was identified as a special ‘birthmark’ on members of the tribe, similar to that of Cain, it is given various forms in different accounts, one of which was a ‘red cross between the shoulders’.

The Tribe of Benjamin later produced the first elected King of Israel, Saul, a Judge from the smallest family, of the smallest clan, of the smallest tribe, to organise the tribes of Israel against the invading Aegean Philistines, but he battles against the priests of Yahweh. He is later deposed by the religious maniac King David and his private army of Philistine mercenaries, who founds the Dynasty of Judah and unites Israel into a Nation against all other local peoples. Later the tiny remnant of the Tribe of Benjamin together with the larger Tribe of Judah form the new Kingdom of Judah, the remaining ten tribes created the Kingdom of Israel which breaks away.

Even in Christian times, certain Jews, including Paul, were declaring themselves to be Israelites as well as Jews, principally through descent from the tribe of Benjamin, and were seeking unity with other ‘lost tribes’ of Israel (Gentiles). In some traditions Mary Magdalene was also said to be of the tribe of Benjamin and a goddess cultist.

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Many tales exist of the ‘lost Tribes of Israel’ surviving amongst Gentiles and intermarrying with them. Most are spurious, but the tales connecting the Greeks and the Benjaminites are at least not as easy to dismiss. Apart from the fact that there is little reference to Benjamites leaving Palestine (though this may have occurred during the war) or directly from Egypt before they arrived.

Robert Graves argued that the founder of the second dynasty of Argos, in Arcadia, Danaos the Libyan, son of Belos the Egyptian, was actually Danaiel the Phoenician, son of Beliel of the Hyksos, drawing on the sources mentioned earlier, and the Semitic origin of the names (as, os or ios and al, el or iel being the divine suffixes in Indo-European and Semitic languages respectively), supporting this with the facts that the Argives (people of Argos) introduced an ‘aggressive Aphrodite’ to Arcadia, who sounds very much like Astarte, and established the pre-eminence of a goddess cult there, and that Pan also became a popular deity in Arcadia around the same time (Graves identifies Pan with Baal). Another connection is also made by others(?) through the alleged totemic animal of the ‘Danaans’ (the Greek name for the Hellenic Argives descended from Danaos) and of the Benjaminites which is said to have been the wolf (linking in the obvious Hebraic connotations of the names Daniel and Belial). Circumstantially, Graves also pointed to the influence of the Phoenicians on Greek culture (most obviously their alphabet), a fact only just being acknowledged today.

The most literal interpretation of this light evidence would be a migration of Semitic Hyksos from Egypt to North Africa (the original meaning of Libya) and from there to Argos in Greece, with perhaps Benjamites prominent in the immigration. However there seems to be no evidence of Hyksos entering North Africa or of North African influence in Arcadia in this period. A possible alternative is thus that Libya / North Africa actually refers to Carthage, the Phoenician colony in North Africa, or a similar place, the only prominent Semitic people in North Africa at the time, with which the ancient Greeks had more direct contact with than the Palestinian Phoenicians. The Phoenicians were an advanced ‘tribe’ of Canaanite Palestinians, and would thus have probably seen themselves as Canaanite first and Phoenician second (this would match other tribal structures elsewhere, such as people-‘nation’-tribe-clan-family). A similar attitude seems to have existed in the Benjaminite alliance with Canaan, both perhaps seeing themselves as primarily a Palestinian people, and Canaanite or Israelite Palestinian only secondly (unlike the other Israelite tribes who saw themselves as separate). And according to many contemporary sources nearly all Palestinians then were either of Hyksos-Habiru descent or ruled by people of Hyksos-Habiru descent. So the Libyan origin of Danaos might either be a mistake for a Phoenician origin made at a later telling of the story, or an indication that the Palestinian immigrants came via Phoenician colonies.

Even more controversially it was also argued from all this that the ‘Danaans’ formed a separate tribe in Greece and that one branch of it became the Celtic ‘Tuatha de Danaan’, which was why some Celts claimed to be of Greek or Trojan descent! Others associated Danaiel with a member of the tribe of Benjamin in exile and Beliel with his clan of Belah. It should be noted however that Heccataeus of Abdera did not claim this, but rather that the original Danaans and the Israelites were both descended from the Hyksos.

The mythos was later extended to the Merovingian Franks and others (said to be of part Celtic descent). These were said to have a taboo about cutting their hair (as did, allegedly, the ancient Arcadians and Nazarites of Israel) and to have had a strange birthmark, identified with the ‘red cross of Benjamin’. This ‘red cross’ has even been claimed as the origin of the Knights Templar symbol (with or without the Merovingians as carriers)!

‘Bernal indicated that, according to their own mythological accounts, the Greeks were descended in large part from Danaus and Cadmus, two legendary personages recognized as Phoenicians, that is, from the people of Palestine, that resulted from the extensive intermarriage between Canaanites and Hebrews, and who had established colonies throughout the ancient Mediterranean’.

Jewish Maccabean tradition also claimed that the Jews and certain Greeks were both sons of Abraham (though not necessarily of Israel). One text (Maccabees I) however states the Spartans were closely related to the Jews. The Spartans though were arch enemies of the Argives-Danaans, but they did intermarry with them and adopt some of their culture, such as a warlike Aphrodite (Astarte). An identification between the warlike nationalistic Maccabees and the warlike nationalistic Spartans may have had a political motive as well of course (strengthened by intense rivalry with Hellenism).

A Brief History of Argos

The first Argives were a community of Mycenaeans in eastern Arcadia. Their ruling house died out and was replaced by a foreign noble from North Africa (or a Phoenician colony there) called Danaos, who brought his clan with him. From these people came the Danaans, who repopelated and revitalised Arcadia, introducing Astarte - Asherah as an oriental Aphrodite (later as Artemis and Hera) as well as Baal - Pan and other Asiatic deities. With the fall of Mycenae Argos went into decline but was rejuvenated following the Dorian invasion and became a major Greek City. It developed an intense emnity towards Sparta.

'Argos, a city in the northern Peloponnesos, played an important role in early Greek legend and in the Classical period was famous for its sculptors. Argos may have issued coins from as early as the sixth century B.C., but it was not until after its expansion of c. 468 B.C. that its major coinage begins. The wolf is a frequent type on the smaller denominations of Argive coinage. It is a symbol of Apollo Lykeios, Apollo, as wolf god, who had long had a cult at Argos. On the reverse is the abbreviated name of the city, and beneath it a club, a reference to the pre-eminent Argive hero Herakles’.

‘Here the Spartans proved their martial ascendancy, defeating the Argives who were forced to withdraw and concede control of the plain. In their shame, the Argive priests decreed that no Argive should wear his hair long until Thyreae was recovered. According to Herodotus, the Spartans henceforth mocked the Argives by wearing their hair long’.

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‘Another distinctive feature of Argives and Danaans may be fairly uniform use of white shields, possibly with a hydra (water-snake) symbol, which is associated with the Argos after Herakles killed a water-snake at Lerna. Argos is referred to in Homer's Illiad as the Kingdom of Diomedes and it gave Herakles, Perseus, Jason and the Argonauts and the Hydra to Greek myth’. The cult of Dionysos, which tended to absorb all orgiastic and shamanic rites, was also strong amongst the Argives in later centuries.

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(*) 23rd December: Feast Date of Dagobert II

BTW, it is also the date on which fans of Seinfeld celebrate Festivus.

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Tying it all together ... the sea-bull of Europa, the sea-bull of the Quinotaur, and the Benjaminites.... yes, there is more speculation here than "history" but I'm tracking mythological themes, not historical events ... but I suspect in the background may be actual migrations of peoples ... (Semites to Greece/the Mediterranean and then to Europe)...

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In the same period, the nautical tribe of Dan was spreading. A branch of the Phoenicians (Canaanites) called the Pelasgians, were called the Danuna by the Egyptians and the Danaoi by Homer. This group of people lived in Greece and on Crete, were part of the Minoan culture, reigned by priestkings and they also had an androgynous goddess called Anu or Danu. They were also the ancestors of the legendary Tuatha de Danaan of Ireland. Part of the Danuna changed the name Anu into Io (the white goddess), a word which is still the root of our word for god (Io, Jove) and used in names as John. These were the Ionians who colonised the group of islands that we now know as the Ionian Islands in Greece. The religious capital of the Danuna was Argos on the Greek peninsula called the Peleponessos. Here stood the Io temple.

The Pelasgians were named after their king Pelasgus I, the first king of Arcadia (Peleponessos). The name Arcadia would get into use after the rule of his follower Arcas I. From that moment on these people were called the Arcadians. The Egyptian knowledge of Thot, also known as the Hermetica, was very popular in early Greece and in the Minoan culture. The number of Thot is 8 (Cosmic balance - as above so below) and was symbolised by the octopus (see the Minoan vase on the photo on the left). There were great contacts between Egypt and Greece, especially Crete. Greece was therefore already well ploughed earth for the growth of philosophy, made famous by the later Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristotle. When the Egyptian Thot became the Greek Hermes, they even had him born in Arcadia and melted with the ancient god Pan.

After the Phoenicians had taken Argos, the mythical journey of the Argonauts took place to Colchis, where they had to find the Golden Fleece. The Order of the Golden Fleece is one of the highest awards in the world and is given mainly to the high nobility. The order was founded in 1430 by Philip the Just of Burgudy as a sort of neo-templar group. The order was dedicated to the holy virgin and St. Andrew.

The people of Danuna, now called the Arcadians, would journey to far away places like Denmark, Great-Britain and Ireland (from ca. 13th century BC). Their Zodiac sign is Scorpio (Eagle). They are said to have named the river Jordan early in Dan's history, and on their journey from the Mediterranean they also named the river Danube.

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Origin of the Merovingians

The Merovingian dynasty has a mysterious origin. Legends tell us of a special bloodline which would connect them to biblical tribes. Like the old Nazoreans, they didn't shave the hair on their heads. They would be descended from the Arcadians. And, they had the right to be kings when they reached the age of 12. The name Merovingian started with king Merovech, son of Clodio. With him, this mysterious bloodline started. Merovech (447-458) would be the son of an ancient seamonster called the Quinotaur according to a 7th century legend. His mother, the wife of Clodio, would have mated with this creature while bathing in the Mediterranean. There is so little known about Merovech, that one would believe that his history was wiped from the annals. Let us go back in time and see what may have happened.

The Arcadians

The Arcadians were a special people, who lived on the Peleponessos peninsula in Greece. The province of Arcadia is an area where shepherds live. In the Renaissance, for some reason, the theme 'Shepherds of Arcadia' was a favourite topic, especially for paintings, and usually along with the phrase 'Et in Arcadia ego'. The old god of Arcadia was Pan, the protector of the shepherds. This is also the old god of the biblical tribe of Dan, who is known to have spread quite a bit, they even reached the Balkan and northwestern Europe. Also this tribe of Dan lived in Arcadia. After a fight with the other tribes of Israel, the tribe of Benjamin would join them in Arcadia. Fragments of this historical happening have been found in several writings.

The name Arcadia is based on the Ursus Minor starsystem, the Little Bear, called Arcas, after the legendary king of Arcadia, Arcas I. The Little Bear is together with the Great Bear and the Pole Star (Polaris is the tale's end of the Little Bear) important for navigation. The Polestar was seen as the pillar around which the universe turned and compared to the Djed pillar and the Osiris Pillar. The stars gave them light and direction and so also they, the Arcadians, would give light and direction and be pillars on which the society could turn and rest.

After the eruption of the Santorini vulcano, there was a period of cultural shifts. The powers of the Minoan empire were weakening and the Mycenean and Dorian cultures were becoming more and more important. As the tribe of Dan was nautical, they probably decided to move away by sea. They sailed by Samos to the Turkish coast and settled on the land which was called Dardania after them. Also the Dardanelles were named after them. The kingdom of Dardania would become very powerful and around 1300 BC Troy was founded. The royal house of Troy would soon become very powerful. Their kings were legendary and claimed descendence from Hermes (Mercurius). Even the Romans said they descended from the Troyan king Aeneas.

After the Troyan war, many had to flee. And so also the Dardani arrived in the Balkan area of Europe. They settled in Pannonia around 1200 BC and are known as a Tracian-Illyrian tribe. According to Dionysius of Halicarnassus (2nd century) the Dardani were indeed from Arcadia.

When we look at the earliest data known about the origin of the Franks, we read that they were originally from Pannonia and according to their own story they even founded Troy. So there must be some kind of link between the Dardani and the Franks. It wasn't until 11 BC that they were called 'Franks' after their great leader Franco. The Franks would also live in Friesland, Gelderland and the lower Rhine delta area of southern Germany and the Netherlands.

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Benjamin

The Benjaminites also had a special reverence for the cow, bull or calf, of which they carried small images. This has its roots in the Phoenician (Canaanite) culture. The bull cult, which was also professed in the Minoan realm, is also based on the Mother Goddess and both Mother Goddesses (cow, bull, calf and Anu) were both male and female. The trinity of the bull, the cow and the calf is also shown in the myth of Osiris, Isis and Horus. The fact that Akhnaton ca 1350 BC would allow the Minoan bull cult together with his Aton cult, probably to please his wife Nefertiti who was from Crete, does attract attention. The worship of the golden calf (around 1350 BC) is a chapter of the biblical Exodus story, when Aaron allowed this cult but Moses became really upset.

Because certain cultural aspects of people, such as idols, names and symbolism, can reveal the origin of their ancestors, we must especially take notice of names like Ursus (bear), idols of a bull, cow or calf (preferably in gold), images of bees and rituals like those of the Zadok priests. The most important Zadok ritual is the thanksgiving ritual for the Mother Goddess for her food and water, for which bread was broken and wine was shared. At first, this ritual was only for the Zadok priests; now the ancient ritual of Melchizedek is bend and known as the Eucharist (derived from the Greek word for Thanksgiving), better known as the Holy Consecration, and this ritual is now only allowed to catholic priests.

Around the year 1000 BC the Phoenicians (Canaanites) and the Arcadians navigated to realms overseas, colonies were founded and traces of ancient Phoenician can be found in the Irish-Celtic language. So it is clear that these people were widely spread over Europe. It is therefore very possible that the ancient colonists of Europe originated from biblical tribes such as Benjamin and Dan. The Mythological Europe wasn't just abducted by Zeus in the image of a bull without having a symbolic meaning.

That there were Merovingian kings who had additional names such as Ursus, were burried with golden bees and images of a bull or cow, could support their connection with Benjamin and/or Dan. Their right to rule could be compared to Benjamin's right to rule. But this mysterious dynasty begins only with Merovech, son of the Quinotaur, a seamonster who could get into any shape. Merovech succeeded his (step?)father Clodio and became the first of a dynasty that would be called the "Merovingians", the fisherkings. A dynasty starts with a certain bloodline, and is therefore family bound. We could assume that the father of Merovech was not Clodio, but someone else. Or, Clodio's wife was the one to introduce the new bloodline. And because a seamonster is no option, we must look elsewhere for an explanation. In the myth, Merovech had two fathers, so perhaps it symbolises two bloodlines coming together leading to Merovech. The term seamonster may point towards someone originally coming from overseas. The name Quinotaur also contains the word 'taur' which means bull and this could point towards the bull cult of the Minoans. The word resembles Minotaur, the mythical half man half bull of Minoan Crete. Is there perhaps a symbolic connection between these two myths?

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Thanks Seeker for those two nice articles there with lots of useful info. In particular, the symbolism of the Minoan octopus caught my eye.
So whats with the seven dots between its tentacles on the Hautpoule gravestone?

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Hi Professor,

Very interesting posts. It would be enlightening to know the source documentation for some of the above claims.

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The Benjaminites were believed to have introduced the orgiastic Golden Calf cult to Israel (a Baal or Asherah cult). Their tribal festival is believed to have been Dec 23rd.


Where did the author get this? Is it ancient, dark age, medieval, Renaissance, revivalist, or modern lore?

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The Merovingian dynasty has a mysterious origin. Legends tell us of a special bloodline which would connect them to biblical tribes.


Are these 'legends' modern (ish) or historical?

The 'goddess' connection is particularly interesting for obvious reasons, and I've written about it elsewhere. The interesting thing about the Benjaminites is they provide both a Jewish and pagan theme for use in the Priory Documents.

As for the Quinotuar, would it be reasonable to translate it as a 'sea-bull'?

What interests me about the Quinotuar is the attempt by some eschatological anti-Semites to link it with Leviathan, for obvious reasons…

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As for the Quinotuar, would it be reasonable to translate it as a 'sea-bull'?


It's a bull with five horns. BTW, I've searched through both scholarly works and genre books on this subject, and I've yet to see a good explanation for why the Quinotaur would be identified as having, particularly, five horns. Of course, you have a certain crowd that sees a reference to the ten-horned Beast from the sea of Revelation, and they would argue five is half of ten. Maybe a half-way windup to the Antichrist.

What makes it a sea creature is Fredegar calls it a "beast of Neptune" and says it raped Chlodio's wife while she was in the water. Merovech's name invokes the sea itself.

Dunno. The majority of the genre books are still consumed with the idea that means the Merovingians were descended from Mary Magdalene, that the bloodline was getting a "Jesus-MM infusion", the "fishy" infusion coming from Jesus = ICHTHYS (that's where the BLL trio first came up with their idea). Only a few people, most notably Elizabeth van Buren, seem to have followed Gerard de Sede's 1973 argument in LRF that the creature was really extra-terrestrial (he said it came from Sirius and was an aquatic being like Robert K. Temple's Nommos) and that was the source of the unusual Merovingian bloodline.

(BTW, I've always found it a bit interesting de Sede is arguing that in 1973 at the same time Robert Anton Wilson, Philip K. Dick, and Timothy Leary also claimed they were getting messages from Sirius - and let's not get into Uri Geller, Andrija Puharich, and the Stargate Conspiracy - but we digress.)

Here's what I think I'm looking at.

1) Fredegar's story seems to be deliberately modelled on the earlier tale of the rape of Europa.
2) I don't know whether or not it's true that the Merovingians were descended from Benjaminites by way of Arcadia (this is essentially what the "peedox" really say when you get down to it, throw out all the other accumulated baggage)
However
3) The earlier story of the myth of Europa seems to be a indication that there was some type of ... "culture movement" if not migration from Phoenicia (Semitic/Middle Eastern) to Minos (Hellenic/Mediterranean) to continental Europe.... that European civilization is rooted in such a movement of ideas and/or people.
4) Whether or not the story in the "peedox" is literally true, it's essentially describing the same pattern/movement.

Now yes, sure enough, the Minoan civilization was a bull-culture, and gave us the story of the Minotaur and the labyrinth.

From the palace at Knossos

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull-leaping

Bull-leaping is still practiced in the south west of France, where it is traditionally known as the Course Landaise (although young cows are used instead of bulls). The town of Mont-de-Marsan in Gascony is renowned for its fine sauteurs or "leapers" and écarteurs ("dodgers") dressed in brocaded waistcoats. They compete in teams, attempting to use their wide repertoire of skillful evasions and acrobatic leaps to avoid the cow's charges.

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1) Fredegar's story seems to be deliberately modelled on the earlier tale of the rape of Europa.


Except for the fact that the Greek myth wasn't created to establish paternity for a tribal chieftain.

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2) I don't know whether or not it's true that the Merovingians were descended from Benjaminites by way of Arcadia (this is essentially what the "peedox" really say when you get down to it, throw out all the other accumulated baggage)


It wasn't the origin myth that the Franks developed for themselves. Surely if there was any longevity of provenance for the myth, it would have been recorded somewhere other than the Priory docs?

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3) The earlier story of the myth of Europa seems to be a indication that there was some type of ... "culture movement" if not migration from Phoenicia (Semitic/Middle Eastern) to Minos (Hellenic/Mediterranean) to continental Europe.... that European civilization is rooted in such a movement of ideas and/or people.


Which is no great revelation. I suppose it's useful for filling the voids created by breaks in oral history and a dearth of records left by Europeans themselves, nature abhorring a vacuum and all. Hence the massive theoretical shifts of entire peoples from this location to that location and back again, to position them in the right places to absorb or to disperse whatever knowledge or genetic material we need them to in order to close the gaps we cannot tolerate.

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4) Whether or not the story in the "peedox" is literally true, it's essentially describing the same pattern/movement.


See #3.

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Now yes, sure enough, the Minoan civilization was a bull-culture, and gave us the story of the Minotaur and the labyrinth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull-leaping

Bull-leaping is still practiced in the south west of France, where it is traditionally known as the Course Landaise (although young cows are used instead of bulls). The town of Mont-de-Marsan in Gascony is renowned for its fine sauteurs or "leapers" and écarteurs ("dodgers") dressed in brocaded waistcoats. They compete in teams, attempting to use their wide repertoire of skillful evasions and acrobatic leaps to avoid the cow's charges.


Case in point...

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Which is no great revelation. I suppose it's useful for filling the voids created by breaks in oral history and a dearth of records left by Europeans themselves, nature abhorring a vacuum and all. Hence the massive theoretical shifts of entire peoples from this location to that location and back again, to position them in the right places to absorb or to disperse whatever knowledge or genetic material we need them to in order to close the gaps we cannot tolerate.


Dunno. Again, I'm not trying to overstate anything, I think. Certainly it does appear the case that there was cultural interchange between Phoenicia, Minos, and Europe - that much can be seen in the archaeological record.

Can't say exactly why, but at the moment, I'm thinking about Minotaurs and labyrinths at the moment. Just am. I wish my process of looking at things was purely rational and easy to explicate, but I have to be honest and admit at moments it may be more "primary process".

BTW, I think the main thing the "peedox" cribbed from, it seems, for its Benjamite-Arcadia theory (if not getting them to sire the Merovingians) is Robert Graves. He certainly seems to be the source of the theory for December 23rd being the festival of the Benjaminites, and their embrace of some of the pagan practices of their Canaanite/Phoenician neighbors. I have one of his books where he discusses the significant overlaps between Hellenic and Judaic mythology -- even in the period prior to Judea being under direct Hellenistic influence post-Alexander the Great -- he points out a lot of the overlaps between the Biblical tales and similar Greek myths.

But, of course, he was a poet and mythographer, not a historian, or archaeologist.

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Here we have the benjamites bypassing arcadia - and winding up in Germany and Italy.

The Legends of the Jews Volume 4, Volume 4 By Louis Ginzberg


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THE CRIME OF THE BENJAMITES




A part of the money which Delilah received from the Philistine lords as the price of Samson's secret, she gave to her son Micah, and he used it to make an idol for himself. This sin was the more unpardonable as Micah owed his life to a miracle performed by Moses. During the times of the Egyptian oppression, if the prescribed number of bricks was not furnished by the Israelites, their children were used as building material. Such would have been Micah's fate, if he had not been saved in a miraculous way. Moses wrote down the Name of God, and put the words on Micah's body. The dead boy came to life, and Moses drew him out of the wall of which he made a part. Micah did not show himself worthy of the wonder done for him. Even before the Israelites left Egypt, he made his idol, and it was he who fashioned the golden calf. At the time of Othniel the judge, he took up his abode at a distance of not more than three miles from the sanctuary at Shiloh, 129 and won over the grandson of Moses to officiate as priest before his idol.

The sanctuary which Micah erected harbored various idols. He had three images of boys, and three of calves, one lion, an eagle, a dragon, and a dove. When a man came who wanted a wife, he was directed to appeal to the dove. If riches were his desire, he worshipped the eagle. For daughters both, to the calves; to the lion for strength, and to the dragon for long life. Sacrifices and incense alike were offered to these idols, and both had to be purchased with cash money from Micah, even didrachms for a sacrifice, and one for incense.

The rapid degeneration in the family of Moses may be accounted for by the fact that Moses had married the daughter of a priest who ministered to idols. Yet, the grandson of Moses was not an idolater of ordinary calibre. His sinful conduct was not without a semblance of morality. From his grandfather he had heard the rule that a man should do "Abodah Zarah" for hire rather than be dependent upon his fellow-creatures. The meaning of "Abodah Zarah" here naturally is "strange," in the sense of "unusual" work, but he took the term in its ordinary acceptation of "service of strange gods." So far from being a whole-souled idolater, he adopted methods calculated to harm the cause of idol worship. Whenever any one came leading an animal with the intention of sacrificing it, he would say: "What good can the idol do thee? It can neither see nor hear nor speak." But as he was concerned about his won livelihood, and did not want to offend the idolaters too grossly, he would continue: "If thou bringest a dish of flour and a few eggs, it will suffice." This offering he would himself eat.

Under David he filled the position of treasurer. David appointed him because he thought that a man who was willing to become priest to an idol only in order to earn his bread, must be worthy of confidence. However sincere his repentance may have been, he relapsed into his former life when he was removed from his office by Solomon, who filled all position with new incumbents at his accession to the throne. Finally he abandoned his idolatrous ways wholly, and became so pure a man that the was favored by God with the gift of prophecy. This happened on the day on which the man of God out of Judah came to Jeroboam, for the grandson of Moses is none other than the old prophet at Beth-el who invited the man of God out of Judah to come to his house. 133

The mischief done by Micah spread further and further. Especially the Benjamites distinguished themselves for their zeal in paying homage to his idols. God therefore resolved to visit the sins of Israel and Benjamin upon them. The opportunity did not delay to come. It was not long before the Benjamites committed the outrage of Gibeah. Before the house of Bethac, a venerable old man, they imitated the disgraceful conduct of the Sodomites before the house of Lot. When the other tribes exacted amends from the Benjamites, and were denied satisfaction, bloody combats ensued. At first the Benjamites prevailed, in spit of the fact that the Urim and Thummim questioned by Phinehas had encouraged the Israelites to take up the conflict, with the words: "Up to war, I shall deliver them into your hands." After the tribes had again and again suffered defeat, they recognized the intention of God, to betray them as a punishment for their sins. They therefore ordained a day of fasting and convocation before the holy Ark, and Phinehas the son of Eleazar entreated God in their behalf: "What means this, that Thou leadest us astray? Is the deed of the Benjamites right in Thine eyes? Then why didst Thou not command us to desist from the combat? But if what our brethren have done is evil in Thy sight, then why dost Thou cause us to fall before them in battle? O God of our fathers, hearken unto my voice. Make it known this day unto Thy servant whether the war waged with Benjamin is pleasing in Thine eyes, or whether thou desirest to punish Thy people for its sins. Then the sinners among us will amend their ways. I am mindful of what happened in the days of my youth, at the time of Moses. In the zeal of my soul I slew two for the sin of Zimri, and when his well-wishers sought to kill me, Thou didst send an angel, who cut off twenty-four thousand of them and delivered me. But now eleven of Thy tribes have gone forth to do Thy bidding, to avenge and slay, and, lo, they have themselves been slain, so that they are made to believe that Thy revelations are lying and deceitful. O Lord, God of our forefathers, naught is hidden before Thee. Make it manifest why this misfortune has overtaken us."

God replied to Phinehas at great length, setting forth why eleven tribes had suffered so heavily. The Lord had wanted to punished them for having permitted Micah and his mother Delilah to pursue their evil ways undisturbed, though they were zealous beyond measure in avenging the wrong done to the woman at Gibeah. As soon as all those had perished who were guilty of having aided and abetted Micah in his idolatrous practices, whether directly or indirectly, God was willing to help them in their conflicts with the Benjamites.

So it came. In the battle fought soon after, seventy-five thousand Benjamites fell slain. Only six hundred of the tribe survived. Fearing to remain in Palestine, the small band emigrated to Italy and Germany.

At the same time the punishment promised them by God overtook the two chief sinners. Micah lost his life by fire, and his mother rotted alive; worms crawled from her body.

In spite of the great mischief caused by Micah, he had one good quality, and God permitted it to plead for him when the angel stood up against him as his accusers. He was extremely hospitable. His house always stood wide open to the wanderer, and to his hospitality he owed it that he was granted a share in the future world. In hell Micah is the first in the sixth division, which is under the guidance of the angel Hadriel, and he is the only one in the division who is spared hell tortures. Micah's sons was Jeroboam, whose golden calves were sinful far beyond anything his father had done.

In those days God spake to Phinehas: "Thou art one hundred and twenty years old, thou hast reached the natural term of man's life. Go now, betake thyself to the mountain Danaben, and remain there many years. I will command the eagles to sustain thee with food, so that thou returnest not to men until the time when thou lockest fast the clouds and openest them again. Then I will carry thee to the place where those are who were before thee, and there thou wilt tarry until I visit the world, and bring thee thither to taste of death."

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The majority of the genre books are still consumed with the idea that means the Merovingians were descended from Mary Magdalene, that the bloodline was getting a ‘Jesus-MM infusion’, the ‘fishy’ infusion coming from Jesus = ICHTHYS (that’s where the BLL trio first came up with their idea). Only a few people, most notably Elizabeth van Buren, seem to have followed Gerard de Sède’s 1973 argument in LRF that the creature was really extra-terrestrial (he said it came from Sirius and was an aquatic being like Robert K. Temple's Nommos) and that was the source of the unusual Merovingian bloodline.

(BTW, I've always found it a bit interesting de Sède is arguing that in 1973 at the same time Robert Anton Wilson, Philip K. Dick, and Timothy Leary also claimed they were getting messages from Sirius - and let's not get into Uri Geller, Andrija Puharich, and the Stargate Conspiracy - but we digress.)


I find it very interesting. It has ONI written all over it IMHO. And I still say that ‘Hawthorne Abendsen’ was somehow associated with RAW, if not RAW himself! But we digress…

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And I still say that ‘Hawthorne Abendsen’ was somehow associated with RAW, if not RAW himself! But we digress…


DasGoat WAS "Hawthorne Abendsen" ... he told me as much ... RAW, BTW, dissects and dismisses the Abendsen "Homintern" theory in one of his books, forget which one.

("Abendsen," of course, was the protagonist of PKD's novel The Man in the High Castle).

I find the whole "Abendsen" theory kind of cranky, just a novel form of homophobia.

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"The imaginary is something that tends to become true." De Sede

Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky

The ancient Egyptians based their calendar on the heliacal rising of Sirius and devised a method of telling the time at night based on the heliacal risings of 36 stars called decan stars (one for each 10° segment of the 360° circle of the zodiac/calendar).

The heliacal rising of Sirius marked the flooding of the Nile in Ancient Egypt and the "Dog Days" of summer for the Ancient Greeks, while to the Polynesians it marked winter and was an important star for navigation around the Pacific Ocean.
The hieroglyph for Sothis features a star and a triangle. Sothis was identified with the great goddess Isis, who formed a part of a trinity with her husband Osiris and their son Horus, while the 70-day period symbolised the passing of Isis and Osiris through the duat (Egyptian underworld).

In 1844 German astronomer Friedrich Bessel deduced from changes in the proper motion of Sirius that it had an unseen companion.[31] Nearly two decades later, on January 31, 1862, American telescope-maker and astronomer Alvan Graham Clark first observed the faint companion, which is now called Sirius B, or affectionately "the Pup".

Sothis, and her husband, the god Sah, came to be viewed as manifestations of Isis and Osiris. She was represented as a woman with a star on top of her headdress, or as a seated cow with a plant between her horns (just as Seshat's hieroglyph might have been a flower or a star) as depicted on an ivory tablet of King Djer.

The Dogon also believe that approximately 5,000 years ago, Amphibious Gods, called Nommo, came to Earth in three legged space ships from the Sirius Star System. They have described perfectly the DNA pattern made by this elliptical orbit created by the two stars as they rotate make around each other. They believe Sirius to be the axis of the universe, and from it all matter and all souls are produced in a great spiral motion

So De Sede may have heard of the Dogon legend
http://www.crystalinks.com/sirius.html

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So De Sede may have heard of the Dogon legend
http://www.crystalinks.com/sirius.html

Sorry Lovuian, but I don't see any connection between de Sede and the Dogon.
Read this if you are a believer in the Dogon - Sirius link.
http://www.skepdic.com/dogon.html
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Hi Professor,

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I find the whole "Abendsen" theory kind of cranky, just a novel form of homophobia.


Absolutely cranky. Personally, I'm tempted to think of it as another ‘détournement’. A caricature of radical feminism if you will...

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Sorry Lovuian, but I don't see any connection between de Sede and the Dogon.


Well, there is de Sede's 1973 book - la race fabuleuse: extra-terrestres et mythologie merovingienne

In it, he declares that 'descendants of aliens once reigned over France'... See the earlier post by Seeker1...

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Hi Nic,
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Sorry Lovuian, but I don't see any connection between de Sede and the Dogon.

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Well, there is de Sede's 1973 book - la race fabuleuse: extra-terrestres et mythologie merovingienne

In it, he declares that 'descendants of aliens once reigned over France'... See the earlier post by Seeker1...

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Hi Spartacus and apologies Lovuian, I'm not really familiar with de Sede's other works outside RLC. Do you think that this book has any direct links to the POS? Or is de Sede just expanding on the Merovingian mythology of Merovech etc and adding in the 70's lust for all things ET? Shades of David Icke and Jim Morrison's Lizard king.
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La Race Fabuleuse, published 1973
http://space-ovni.xooit.fr/t217-La-race ... e-Sede.htm

Not known very well in the Anglophone world; never translated from the original French.

I first read about it in one of the original articles written about the Priory of Sion in Gnosis magazine -- by Robert Anton Wilson (would have been around 1995 or so IIRC). Don't know if RAW himself reads French; maybe somebody translated for him.

I know from that article LRF says the Quinotaur was an extraterrestrial from the Sirius star system (*). However, RAW also points out that in the book, de Sede comments on how it used to rain frogs at Stenay, which shows he was also a Fortean. I think it was RAW who also first mentioned Michel Lamy's works -- also none have been translated.

(*) Personally, shouldn't we give up this speculation until we actually find habitable planets in the binary star system? Cart before the horse, I say.

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Actually only getting started there. I never had any faith in the way the myths were interpreted which led me to believe the premise was wrong. But now... I still think the myths are misleading but the general premise - of outside intervention - has some merit.

There is also the concept that Atlantis never sunk but still exists to the west beyond the horizon yet beyond mankind's ability to see. That was the proposal of J.R.R. Tolkien and it always makes me wonder.

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(*) Personally, shouldn't we give up this speculation until we actually find habitable planets in the binary star system? Cart before the horse, I say.


hmmm ....or we waiting for the future to catch up with the past :idea:

We just fought WWII over a group of super race humans who came from Atlantis

Were the Atlanteans from the heavens?
I was just wondering if De Sede had tapped into the Dogon legend which recently has theories they were
manipulated in the legends...

There still is the Mayan astrology accuracy as well as the Persians
the Heavens were where the gods lived

As they find more exoplanets in the hundreds in a small part of the universe that may support life
step by step we get closer to the conclusion that life maybe found on other planets

And the Old Testament has some interesting stories in it with the Nephilim and the visitations from the heavens
Ezekiel's encounters as well as Enoch.

Then there is artwork
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