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I speak for myselve! Ben or Bill are old enough to do it themselve!
We have been often together in RLC-Ben,Bruce,Bill,etc. so I think I´m able to get my own picture of this story!
Bruce just want to diffame Ben, it´s obvious, can´t you see that?

it's not really obvious to me (anyway)
Ben has been sitting on what would prove to be a monumental discovey for over 10 years and it's not as if he's kept it secret. What's he waiting for? Is it all about the money he can get? When you have to try and "sell" something it seems to me it's because there aren't that many buyers...but hang on we're supposed to be talking about the possible tomb of Jesus... and nothing's really being done about it?
Is it any wonder that the vast majority of people now doubt the whole episode?

Hello Bruce
Is the body not real? And the body's hands in the position it is?
Was that faked and how?
Do they have significance to the Magdalene kneeling at the altar at Rennes Chateau?

I'd be interested in your comments on that?

THE money making machine for the "team" is not the "tomb" itself or the books "Ben" is writing but mucho mas the magic stick device to cut a loose shroud remotely through that hole....man, I do hope he got the patent rights for it! I would buy one!

PS: greetings from Sidi Baba

It's quite good actually ! ( my fiver is in the post, Bruce ? ). Enjoy the popcorn too !

Enough of the levity, we shouldn't forget that there was a female corpse in the tomb/polystyrene cave. Perhaps she - MM or not - or her mortal remains be treated with a smidgeon of dignity ?

Does it not stand to reason that if the tomb is a "polystyrene cave", then the body could also be a "polystyrene" corpse??
Regards
Nic

OK! What can I say-you are getting toooooooo mad for any discussion....

Pat,your basically telling us Bruce is lying to us all..ok maybe he is.But his words sure seem a bit more on point than yours.Can you anwser this,Why is Ben delaying all of this...you seem to be his right hand man,so I will assume you know the anwser.Its rather funny how Hammott never gives updates on this direct matter on his website either..

It was polystyrene that was used to block the passage in the ceiling of the

cave, it wasn`t a cave made of polystyrene.

Anyone who aligns himself with TD, has no credibility with me.

That's false, Mr. Burgess. One-fifth of the population of Europe is hardly rare. Haplogroup I is one of the oldest DNA mutations found in Europe, having migrated there some 20,000 to 28,000 years ago in the wake of the last Ice Age. And it is no stranger to the Pyrenees.

TCP

How do we know the corpse is female? As I recall from the Q&A both before (at the Bodhi Tree) and after the screening (Laemmle Sunset) here in LA, Mr. Burgess and Ms. Barnett indicated that the Canadian laboratory had only sampled mtDNA from the corpse - which everyone has, regardless of gender. In fact, I asked if nuclear DNA had been sampled in order to determine the presence of a Y chromosome, and Ms. Barnett indicated they hadn't, and had chosen to go with mtDNA because it yielded "better results". One result that wouldn't yield is gender.

TCP

It's plain to see how VAM avoids any comment concerning Ben's credibility.

Not at all, Pat. Bruce is answering ANY and EVERY question - as Ben is hiding in noble silence.

... to find out himself WHO really is inside that stone coffin?

THE most important discovery of our age ... tired of waiting of coming out ... only Ben doesn't want it to be out.

There's Batman, then Superman, then Spiderman ... AND hence came TOMBMAN. Forgot?

I wonder where Wonder-Warthog went?

No comment!

VAM

which is of course impossible or highly unlikely

No! Bruce doesn´t answer EVERY question! Is anybody in contact with JZ Knight???? She would tell you what de did with her, and which deal they worked out! Bruce wanted to steal the Body, bring it out of France and wanted to sell it to her! I caught them digging in exactly this cave Ben told Bruce it would be the tomb. Thats the truth!
After he realized Ben didn´t give him the right location he said to him:"I will wear you down!" And THIS here is exactly what he wanted! To destroy Bens credibility! If you realize one of your closest partners is going to take you for a ride would you be open hearted and minded to people you dont know???? NO YOU WOULDN`T!
I know storys about Bruce you wouldn´t believe! But for the moment I think this doesn´t have to go public! But it depends on Bruces´ further steps if I will tell or not! Normally I´m not the one judging about people but I will if he doesn´t stop to attack Ben because of his vengance...
So once again Ben has good reasons to act like he is doing! For the moment he can´t tell more but it will go public one day! Anb be sure it won´t be an american team which nuzzels in European history whithout having any idea of it- just makin profit out of it !!! (caution-my private opinion/not Bens)

can you tell us why you think Bruce would want to destroy Ben's credability, Pat?
Ben has already a book out in print to claim he discovered this tomb. Why would Bruce want to steal the body and ruin Ben when he's done a film about said tomb with Ben as the discoveror.
Bruce is unlikely to be able to claim to be discoverer of this body he wanted to buy if there's already a book and film out saying who is.
That just does not make any sense



but he has gone public - he's just not backed up what he's said as yet

Because he couldn´t create enough money with the BL-movie! Thats
simple but the truth!
JZ Knight wanted to have the body for her institution,sect, or church-call it however you will...

but can you see where I'm coming from? It's already out in the ether that Ben "found" this tomb - how would Bruce reconcile this?

hang on...can I guess from this



that you're implying that Bruce was going to sell the body on to a sect, not release his film and then claim Ben was a liar? Coz that would be pretty stupid doing it after releasing the film

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Pat, Your loyalty to Ben is is very laudable and I can understand what motivates it as I used to have a Labrador.
However, as you make it clear you are not empowered to speak for Bill and Ben your opinion isn't entirely relevant to this thread.
What would be more pertinent to the discussion would be for them to answer this challenge to their probity themselves. Perhaps when you report back you might suggest that their contribution will hold rather more weight than yours?
Given the subjects he has covered in the past I suspect that Bruce may not feel too intimidated by your rather thinly veiled threats, however, thats for him to decide.

TD.

My dear boy, the continuity girl was in truth some high class ditzy Doreen with a bad English degree and not a single clue as to how to go about matching the scene. She went out, met a nice man who gave her a quiet afternoon freebasing some badass coke. Hurriedly, on the way home after readjusting her attire, she pops into Abdul's corner shop and acquires a copious quantity of acoutrements that seemed roughly OK. She'd largely spent the budget on the coke, but a fiver's worth of Abdul's kit set that straight.

The articles don't just amble, they morph around like a claymation. While running around the room, a book changes into a box, objects change their scale, some disappear, some dry out and lose all trace of their staining. A new sheet has to be found and a new cross painted onto it, not quite the same as it was before.

As for Ben later cutting the shroud off and desecrating what is said by him to be Mary Magdalene, how will he ever live with himself for butchering such an important venue and personality? All that foam and landslides and destruction. It's nuts. Never happened.

I used to make Pepper's Ghosts, I've made four, for various museums around the world. These are nasty fellahs, because if you want to match scenes, you know that one is seen straight on, through the mirror, and the other via the mirror, so you have to make it exactly the same but in reverse. So I know what it's like trying to match one thing up exactly with another. When I worked on 'Alien' imagine my surprise and delight when Ridley Scott decided later he wanted two more space suits, exactly the same as the three full-sized ones made a month before, but 4/5ths the size, so he could shoot kids in close up to look like adults at a distance. Dig those DVDs out and see if you can tell, readers.

Just trying to say I do know what I am looking at and it is two different scenes. So will DRAC dig both of them up? No, because it is a joke.