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She has tried cannabis, LSD, magic mushrooms, mescaline, cocaine, ecstacy, MDMA, ketamine, DMT and nitrous oxide.

The only Sufi I ever had time for was Sufi Tucker the big black shamanmamma of days gone by - boy could she shake it. Take you to the promised land no trouble.

Thanks for the input Paula.
apropos of Tryptophan...a good reason to cut Turkey meat out from your diet btw.

some say this is the symbol for the pineal gland

Wasn't it Descartes who said the Pineal gland was the seat of the soul
The first description of the pineal gland and the first speculations about its functions are to be found in the voluminous writings of Galen (ca. 130-ca. 210 AD), the Greek medical doctor and philosopher who spent the greatest part of his life in Rome and whose system dominated medical thinking until the seventeenth century.

Galen discussed the pineal gland in the eighth book of his anatomical work On the usefulness of the parts of the body. He explained that it owes its name (Greek: kônarion, Latin: glandula pinealis) to its resemblance in shape and size to the nuts found in the cones of the stone pine (Greek: kônos, Latin: pinus pinea). He called it a gland because of its appearance and said that it has the same function as all other glands of the body, namely to serve as a support for blood vessels.

Second, he thought that these ventricles were filled with “psychic pneuma,” a fine, volatile, airy or vaporous substance which he described as “the first instrument of the soul.” (See Rocca 2003 for a detailed description of Galen's views about the anatomy and physiology of the brain.)

The pineal gland played an important role in Descartes' account because it was involved in sensation, imagination, memory and the causation of bodily movements. Unfortunately, however, some of Descartes' basic anatomical and physiological assumptions were totally mistaken, not only by our standards, but also in light of what was already known in his time. It is important to keep this in mind, for otherwise his account cannot be understood. First, Descartes thought that the pineal gland is suspended in the middle of the ventricles (Figure 6). But it is not, as Galen had already pointed out (see above)

this knowledge of the Pineal Gland was out long ago
and Rome would be the perfect place
they would like to be the gatekeepers
who has access to the soul Realm

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pineal-gland/

BTW.
Allegro also wrote about the Dead Sea Scrolls:
http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Sea-Scrolls-Christian-Myth/dp/0879757574/ref=pd_sim_b_3

Non loin de l’église existait également un cloître, toujours en place par ailleurs, mais qui, en cette époque pleine d’inattendues étrangetés, avait une utilité pour le moins répugnante. Il avait en effet la singulière particularité de servir tout à la fois d’ossuaire et de fosse commune. Le cloître avait été aménagé à la façon d’une tombe horrible ; jonché de cadavres en putréfaction, ce lieu avait pour objet de faciliter la communication des confrères de La Sang avec les âmes des morts, d’être une porte donnant sur le monde des défunts, et servait de « terre sacrée », où l’on offrait toute sortes de sacrifices et d’offrandes rituelles afin d’apaiser les âmes tourmentées… Les confrères parcouraient ce lieu en tous sens en proférant des incantations, ou en se flagellant en rémission des péchés des âmes prisonnières du Purgatoire.

Not far from the church there also existed a cloister, still there by the way, but in those days full of unexpected oddities and actually being used for something quite repugnant. Having in effect, the singular characteristic of serving as both the ossuary and the common mass grave both at the same time. The cloister of the monastery was built in the manner of a horrible tomb; littered with rotting corpses, this place was designed to facilitate the communication of the La Sanch Brotherhood with the souls of the dead, designed be a door to the world of the departed and serving as the "holy ground", where was offered all sorts of sacrifices and ritual offerings to appease the tormented souls ... The brothers walked this area in all directions uttering incantations and flagellating themselves in remission for the sins of the souls trapped in Purgatory.

Not far from the church there also existed a cloister, still there by the way, but in those days full of unexpected oddities and actually being used for something quite repugnant. Having in effect, the singular characteristic of serving as both the ossuary and the common mass grave both at the same time. The cloister of the monastery was built in the manner of a horrible tomb; littered with rotting corpses, this place was designed to facilitate the communication of the La Sanch Brotherhood with the souls of the dead, designed be a door to the world of the departed and serving as the "holy ground", where was offered all sorts of sacrifices and ritual offerings to appease the tormented souls ... The brothers walked this area in all directions uttering incantations and flagellating themselves in remission for the sins of the souls trapped in Purgatory.

Hi Sheila, if the bodies were taken back to the La Sanch monastery and left to rot. Then what happened to the money collected by La Sanch on their walks with the condemned ??
Also do you have the source for the above quote please?
Regards
Nic

What "monastery"...? La Sanch is and always has been a lay confraternity! Who writes this crap?

TCP

The cloister of the monastery was built in the manner of a horrible tomb; littered with rotting corpses,

Which is precisely why I asked Sheila for a reference to the above quote Tim.
Regards
Nic

Hi there Nic and a good morning to you, the quote is from page 1 of this thread back in February...
and the answer to TCP's question can be found there as well.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2706&start=0

welcome back nic

Hi there Nic and a good morning to you, the quote is from page 1 of this thread back in February...
and the answer to TCP's question can be found there as well.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2706&start=0

oooh, you got your post script in..just in time.

Around 1699, La Sang of Girona flourished and underwent a restructuring by enlisting a second brotherhood which up until then had remained independent. This was l’Archiconfrérie de l’Egorgement de Saint Jean-Baptiste (The arch-confraternity of the Decapitation? of St. John the Baptist), who then disappeared, dissolved in favour of La Sanch. La Sanch, renovated and strengthened by new colleagues, endowed themselves that year with a church, l’Església del Carme (The Church of Carmel, adjacent to the Carmelite Convent where La Sanch of Girona were founded), whose slow construction was commenced with the chapel of "Immaculate Blood" and followed by a second, that of the Saints Anne and Martha. Eight years later, the Chapel of the "Immaculate Blood" was extended by a small structure built opposite which was dedicated to St. Julie. From 1720 to 1726, the ensemble would be completed by a choir or chancel, an altar and choir stalls, which were quickly joined by the foundations and walls of the chapels of "La Pietat", "Sant Albert" (of Jerusalem ), "Sant Pere de Luxembourg", "Sant Cosme i Sant Damià" (the twins, Saints Cosmas and Damien, who are very interesting btw) as well as that of "Sant Eloi". Not far from the church there also existed a cloister, that's still there by the way, and i bet it surrounds a garden with a well/water supply in the middle! but in those days full of unexpected oddities and actually being used for something quite repugnant. Having in effect, the singular characteristic of serving as both the ossuary and the common mass grave both at the same time. The cloister of the monastery was built in the manner of a horrible tomb; littered with rotting corpses, this place was designed to facilitate the communication of the La Sanch Brotherhood with the souls of the dead, designed be a door to the world of the departed and serving as the "holy ground", where was offered all sorts of sacrifices and ritual offerings to appease the tormented souls ... The brothers walked this area in all directions uttering incantations and flagellating themselves in remission for the sins of the souls trapped in Purgatory.