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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010 12:21 pm 
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hehehehe...that's funny rot thar (right there)...and I don't even know what she said...what's a punter?


In the UK, it's generally slang for "customer" - but would only be used in the context of being a customer in a bar or restaurant or club, or some such place, and not in a shop, or bank, for example. The word punt is a boating term, so I've no idea where the expression comes from.


Sorry, I just remembered - punt is also used as slang for bet - as in, I'll have a punt on that horse. I guess the expression must derive from that, in some way.


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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010 12:51 pm 
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aha! I do believe bar customer would be it.

Being purely redneck american the picture I had in my early morning minds-eye was of an extremely drunk guy (beergoggles) in a (american) football uniform (punter) chasing after said female who's out gantin' for it.

I've had more coffee since then.

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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
PostPosted: 14 Aug 2010 12:21 am 
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"Gantin(g)".......never heard of it. Etymology Sheila...or anyone?
Not sure if it will fit into strine, but I might give it a go.

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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
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richard.webster wrote:
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hehehehe...that's funny rot thar (right there)...and I don't even know what she said...what's a punter?


In the UK, it's generally slang for "customer" - but would only be used in the context of being a customer in a bar or restaurant or club, or some such place, and not in a shop, or bank, for example. The word punt is a boating term, so I've no idea where the expression comes from.



A 'punt' was originally a wager or point in the card game Faro or Pharoah (see, on topic!) thus a 'Punter' was someone in the act of laying said wager.

Any one for Kalooki ?
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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
PostPosted: 14 Aug 2010 8:00 am 
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Ganting:

Origin: West of Scotland, Glasgow.
Definition: To be in dire need of sexual satisfaction.
Etymology: your guess is as good as mine.

It is true that anyone can be ganting for anything at anytime, however the true use of the word is in the context of a highly unattractive female out looking for it.


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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
PostPosted: 16 Aug 2010 12:10 am 
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Sheila wrote:
Ganting:

Origin: West of Scotland, Glasgow.
Definition: To be in dire need of sexual satisfaction.
Etymology: your guess is as good as mine.

It is true that anyone can be ganting for anything at anytime, however the true use of the word is in the context of a highly unattractive female out looking for it.


Thanks Sheila....that would be a "Sue Brugly" over here.

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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
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Sheila wrote:
Ganting:

Origin: West of Scotland, Glasgow.
Definition: To be in dire need of sexual satisfaction.
Etymology: your guess is as good as mine.

It is true that anyone can be ganting for anything at anytime, however the true use of the word is in the context of a highly unattractive female out looking for it.


:lol: In my part of the world the word is Gaggin....as in "gaggin for it" :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2010 4:29 pm 
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tingra wrote:
Sheila wrote:
Ganting:

Origin: West of Scotland, Glasgow.
Definition: To be in dire need of sexual satisfaction.
Etymology: your guess is as good as mine.

It is true that anyone can be ganting for anything at anytime, however the true use of the word is in the context of a highly unattractive female out looking for it.


:lol: In my part of the world the word is Gaggin....as in "gaggin for it" :lol: :lol:


So I guess "heatherin to you" in the song, 500 miles, would be like ganting, maybe, cause that's all I could come up with, not being familiar with Scottish terms.


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 Post subject: Yuya
PostPosted: 24 Aug 2010 2:22 am 
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 Post subject: Tuya
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 Post subject: Miss Egypt
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 Post subject: Tut
PostPosted: 26 Aug 2010 2:19 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Tut
PostPosted: 26 Aug 2010 4:17 am 
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Renne wrote:
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Jeweled pectoral from King Tut`s treasure.


Interesting.
That object in the center is called a djed pillar. In itself the subject of various theories.


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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
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Renne, please forgive me for not looking it up myself....the masks...are they from the same country? The people they represent seem to be from 2 distinct races. The facial features from each mask are totally different from the other.

Ah...the djed pillar....could it be technology that we are just now developing ourselves? I think they knew how to travel through worm holes.

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 Post subject: Ushabtis
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Ushabtis from the tomb of Yuya and Tuya - from the same era, just before King Tut.

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 Post subject: Djed
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An artist`s interpretation of the Djed Pillar, "The Djed Pillar - Upholder of the Heavens".

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 Post subject: Tuya
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 Post subject: Re: Akhenaten
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 3:32 am 
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Renne wrote:
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The Pharoah Akhenaten - very handsome, like Joseph.


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Akhenaten

Any comment on his, to put it gently, unusual appearance?

These folks do.

"The syndrome is dominantly inherited, which means that an abnormal gene from one parent is all that is required for the syndrome to be inherited."

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Likenesses produced at the beginning of his reign show him with a relatively normal face and physique. Sorta debunks the theory he suffered a genetic disorder.


fair enough.

Is there an update?


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 Post subject: White
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2010 12:56 am 
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He`s built like a white guy, also, he came to power after a famine so his physical build demonstrates that

he and his people were well fed during his reign. Has anyone seen the new "National Geographic" magazine?

Zahi Hawass wrote the cover story on his take on the Tut DNA - which is the official Egyptian govt. line.

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 Post subject: Re: King Tut's DNA Results
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2010 3:19 pm 
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Renne wrote:
Has anyone seen the new "National Geographic" magazine?
Zahi Hawass wrote the cover story on his take on the Tut DNA - which is the official Egyptian govt. line.


This is the article, "King Tut's Family Secrets", from the September 2010 issue of the National Geographic; text by Zahi Hawass.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/ ... awass-text

Fine gallery of photos, by Kenneth Garrett:

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/ ... hotography

And a sidebar to the main piece entitled "The Risks and Rewards of Royal Incest", by David Dobbs.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/ ... dobbs-text

Off topic, and nothing to do with King Tut, but for those who might be interested, another article from the current issue, on the natural splendour of Fraser Island, off the coast of Queensland; "Sands of Time", by Roff Smith.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/ ... smith-text

With some beautiful pictures, by Peter Essick.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/ ... hotography

Full table of contents for September here:

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/ ... f-contents


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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
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Thanks for "The Risks and Rewards of Royal Incest" Richard, a short & to the point article.

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Royal incest occurs mainly in societies where rulers have tremendous power and no peers, except the gods. Since gods marry each other, so should royals.


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 Post subject: Re: King Tut`s DNA Results
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So what about isolated rural communities of "peasants" and remote islands such as Pitcairn? These people are hardly the peers of Divine personages except in the Biblical sense of man being made in the image of God if you subscribe to that belief.

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 Post subject: Ahmose
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Queen Ahmose-Nefertari 18th Dynasty.

Pharoah Joseph married Asenath, daughter of the High Priest at On.

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 Post subject: Re: Akhenaten
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Thorstein wrote:
Renne wrote:
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The Pharoah Akhenaten - very handsome, like Joseph.


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Akhenaten

Any comment on his, to put it gently, unusual appearance?

These folks do.

"The syndrome is dominantly inherited, which means that an abnormal gene from one parent is all that is required for the syndrome to be inherited."

rs2008 wrote:
Likenesses produced at the beginning of his reign show him with a relatively normal face and physique. Sorta debunks the theory he suffered a genetic disorder.


fair enough.

Is there an update?



I have a theory :idea:

On the stomach (and on the armbands) you see two cartouches which represent royal names. They may also represent titles or roles.

Akhenaten's rule was noted for it's loss of the lunar calendar but what if this was merely the fact that he swallowed and became both lunar and solar calendar?

The lunar calender was associated with the female so he became hermaphroditic with the primary worship of the solar calender becoming dominant.

He/she shows engorgement in his/her facial features as a proportionate response to this role and his hidden belief (or secondary belief struture) as lunar calender role of keeping track of the flooding of the nile, religious practices and admin.

The distended stomach with the prominent navel could also represent the omphalos- (Greek navel). A worldwide belief in the power of the omphalos-sacred stone that may have some connection to the calender.

When his reign came to end the records (the cartouches) of Akhenaten's name were destroyed enmasse.
Are the cartouches representive of the fact that the lunar calender did not dissappear but was combined and then suppressed to became a secondary feature of Akhenaten's rule but did not dissappear as evidenced by it's reinstatement after his death?

Also why destroy the calender that allows for the practice of religious events & administration(the knowledge of his kingdom), something that would have been required to reinforce his position. In order to consolidate power wouldn't Akhenaten require control of it instead?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A64718797
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After Akhenaten's death his heir Tutankhamun (or more likely the boy pharaoh's advisor, Nefertiti's father Ay) restored the old religious order and reinstated the stellar and lunar calendars. Akhenaten was denounced as a heretic and all records mentioning his name were destroyed. The companion piece to the now-famous Queen Nefertiti's bust had its face caved in. Only a few statues of Akhenaten, such as the one in Cairo's Egyptian Museum of Antiquities, remain intact.


So the question still remains as to whether his features are a representation of a genetic disorder but I wanted to offer another explanation of the relatively unusual and abstract features in the stonework depicting Akhenaten and his unusual role.

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