Yes please take a shower and cool off
but I admit that imagery can give a girl a fright
I maybe scarred for life
Lets get on with it please
Lets go to that Chinon Parchment that just handily was found by the lil girl who now I believe works for the Vatican
It wasn't Clement who betrayed the Templars it was that Capetian Phillip
Clement absolved the Templars but alas Philip roasted them on a open fire cruelly
Torture is used to extract information ...look at America we use it
but guess what we found
Torture is useless
Now granted Clement was under duress but it wasn't Phillip who tortured them it was the Dominicans (Inquisition)
Phillip did take care of those IOU'S though
The Templars were absolved and yet they burned
But did Phillip get that Templar treasure?
I don't think so
And would one think of Masonry (Like Albert Pike said)as a religion founded long ago by Euclid and Socrates
Masons have a Temple and they worship the One Great Architect(All seeing Eye of RA) and rituals
So what came first Masonry or the Templars?....those Egyptian Pyramids had a few stonemasons working on them
And Clement (Papacy) isn't so innocent
the pushing for the other kings to place the Templars under arrest
At a congress of 114 bishops called by Clement four years after the first arrests, the bishops of Spain, England, Germany, Denmark, Ireland and Scotland wanted the Templars to be allowed to defend themselves. Only one Italian prelate and three French ones voted against. The pope closed the session. In 1312, 54 Templars, knights who had volunteered to defend the order were declared relapsed heretics and burnt alive on a “slow” fire before the trials had even started.
But the King Of England and Portugal balked as well as others
they didn't believe it
But Clement who absolved the Templars sent a Papal Bull demanding they be tried
Edward seized their lands but he treated them without torture
but that wasn't enough
Clement demanded torture and Papal law was above English civil lawWe hear that you forbid torture as contrary to the laws of your land… I command you at once to submit those men to torture.
so Edward complied
but I don't think the Bruce did ...Papal law didn't work on him
The Knights Templar in Portugal just changed their name
Founded in 1318, the Military Order of Christ (previously Real Ordem dos Cavaleiros de Nosso Senhor Jesus Cristo) was the heritage of the Knights Templar in Portugal, after the suppression of the Templars in 1312.
King Denis negotiated with Pope Clement's successor John XXII for the new order's recognition and right to inherit the Templar assets and property.
its an example how the Order continued under another name
But the reason the torture in other countries was the Papacy was looking for something that they didn't get in their Torture chamber
the Templar Treasure
Torture never works
Just let me hear where the wrong parts of the story are and some backing up of this would help too
once your out of the shower