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PostPosted: 08 Jun 2010 11:19 pm 
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Thanks for sharing those experiences; all three sound very different in character. This one must have been absolutely terrifying. :shock:

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The first was when I was expecting my Daughter many moons ago. I was walking up the stairs to the bathroom in my former boyfriends’ house, which was in almost complete darkness. As I turned to the left at the top of the stairs I turned around and saw a man crouching at the bottom of the stairs outside the bedroom. He was silhouetted against the darkness, but I could see that he was solid and had form but I couldn’t see any features. He looked deep in thought, but then realised I was there, looked up at me suddenly, and jumped, as if surprised. He then scurried up the stairs on all fours, and disappeared into the darkness. He made no noise.


These sort of experiences, I think, tend to fall into two categories; things one see that appear so out of the ordinary - the headless horseman, for example - that one recognises them as being paranormal at the time that one sees them; and experiences such as the one you recount in the second example, that seem normal and mundane at the time, but which one subsequently recognises as having been paranormal in nature, because there is no other rational explanation.

My experience fell into this second category.

I was walking down this steep hill in the village I grew up in, very late at night.

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As you can see, there is a blind corner at the bottom of the hill, with the view around it screened by the angle of curve and the hedgerow. As I started to walk down the hill, the figure of a man came around the corner at the bottom. I didn't recognise him, but it was too dark to make out any features anyway, but definitely a human shape. I carried on walking down the hill as he walked up it, and as we approached each other, given the darkness, and being of an easily spooked disposition, I started to feel quite trepidatious, and slowed down. When we were about a dozen or so feet away from each other I stopped, and was about to call out to see who it was - hoping it was a neighbour or something. But then he stopped too, then turned around and started walking back down the hill. I followed him. He turned the blind corner at the bottom, and I continued to follow, reaching the corner only seconds after him.

I don't have a photo of the next part of the lane, but it's quite a long stretch on a gentle incline, but with steep hedgerows on either side, as on the hill. Anyway, I was only seconds, a few feet, behind the guy, and he had completely vanished. There was literally nowhere he could have gone in that time, and if he'd crashed through the hedgerow I would have heard him. So it was only at that point, subsequent to seeing the figure, that I realised something out of the ordinary had occurred.

I ran all the way home.

Some time after that, I was told that the cottage at the top of the hill (Well Cottage, btw, to pick up on your water theme), the entrance to which you can just see on the centre-left edge of the picture, was believed to be haunted.

So that's why I think I might have seen an apparition that night. But that's quite a mild experience, really, although it frightened me at the time, and nothing to compare with your apparition running up the stairs on all fours. If that had happened to me, I think I'd still be in therapy today.


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What i find most interesting about the incident is the interaction between us. Usually when one hears of a ghostly encounter the apparition usually does what it does without acknowledging its surroundings, but this was very different. He was clearly surprised to see me, and responded to my presence.


That struck me as odd too, because that aspect of apparitions being seemingly oblivious to their surroundings tends to suggest one of the more plausible explanations for their existence - that what we're experiencing when we see them may be some sort of dimensional glitch, some tear in the fabric of space and time that allows us a glimpse of something happening outside of our reality. I don't understand the maths and physics of something like that at all, and I find it difficult to get my head around on any level, but I suppose I'm saying that when we witness something like that, somehow, in some way, we might be looking at a moment in time, rather than looking at something in our own reality. For example, I've heard about apparition sighting cases where the ghostly figure has been seen moving above the ground, as if flying, but when the site where the incident occurred was analysed historically, it was seen that in the past the level of the ground was different, or there was a raised path there or something. So I do think that is one possible explanation for apparitions, though there are obviously others.

But your experience seems so different to that, because the thing you saw reacted to you, and actually ran away from you, which makes me wonder if what you saw wasn't an apparition, but some other kind of otherworldly being. Some sort of sprite or goblin, maybe? The part about it moving on all fours made me think of a satyr, or some sort of half-human, half-beast type creature.

Good that you saw it off, though, whatever it was. That's encouraging, I feel. :wink:


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The third features a kitchen. I was staying at a very old cottage in Glastonbury for a week with my Daughter and boyfriend, the cottage used to form part of the abbey if I recall. It was quite late at night and my boyfriend and I had a bit of an argument (strangely enough about esoterica) and as our ‘discussion’ escalated there was a crashing sound from the kitchen. When we went to investigate we discovered that the lid of the ceramic tea pot on the welsh dresser had smashed onto the floor. The problem was that the teapot hadn’t moved and was still sitting on the shelf exactly where it had been all day. Somehow the lid had unhooked itself, missed the kitchen surface, and landed on the floor. I’ve never been able to explain this.


That one sounds like classic poltergeist activity. From my limited understanding of these cases, they seem to divide into two broad categories - phenomenon that attach themselves to places, and those that attach themselves to people, and follow them from location to location, which must be incredibly frightening and distressing for those concerned. At least one can just leave a bad place. But thankfully your experience sounds like it was in the first category, and was related to the place where you were staying. It must have been quite startling, though hopefully it might have helped you win the argument about esoterica! Bit of a clincher, I would have thought.

I'm interested that it happened in Glastonbury, which has something of a reputation for paranormal events of one kind or another, particularly in the vicinity of the Abbey and Magdalene Street. With that in mind, you say you were staying in a very old cottage that may once have formed part of the Abbey, so that made me wonder a bit.

One possibility to consider is the notion that there is a connection between poltergeist activity and places believed to be areas of earth energy, such as ley lines and telluric currents. Incidentally, just to move this over to RLC for a moment, some have claimed that the area around the village is a source of such energy, and that this might explain the siting of megaliths there, and other intriguing features in the landscape. There have also been some interesting ideas put forward about the high iron content in the ground there (you'll see lots of red earth, when you go), and how this might have caused people in the past with a facility for such things to detect certain "energies" beneath them, leading them to believe the area was sacred in some way.

But returning to Glastonbury, its location on a well known ley line - the tor is on the St Michael line, discovered by John Michell - may be a possible explanation for the sort of peculiar incident you describe.

According to the psychic and author Craig Hamilton-Parker:

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Some psychics say that poltergeist activity comes not from spirits or the powers of psychokinesis but from telluric rays emitted from the earth's core. They believe that these “earth fields” can be detected by dowsing. Underground rock strata, streams, and springs distort these rays and result in areas of “geopathic stress” that are harmful to humans and some animals. At these places, the earth energy is high and poltergeist activity is likely to occur.
Dowsers also believe that the megalithic standing stones were designed to mark the lines of these earth fields. Named “ley lines” by dowser Alfred Watkins, they crisscross the world and converge on Glastonbury and Stonehenge in the UK and the pyramid of Cheops in Egypt. Studies have shown that many of the most famous cases of poltergeist activity have happened in buildings that have been built exactly on the intersection of two major ley lines.


Hamilton-Parker also raises the possibility that certain people with what he terms "an extraordinarily high energy field" have the ability to summon up such entities. He writes:

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It may be the case that poltergeist activity is not caused by spirits but by earth energies, or by living people with an extraordinarily-high energy field. Returning to the Buddhist theme, it is recognized in Tibetan Bön (a form of indigenous Tibetan shamanism that was absorbed into Buddhism) that some ghosts can be deliberately created using special meditation techniques. In particular, the meditating monk may create a Tulpa spirit that can be used, like a sort of genie, act as the servant of the monk. Although these “beings” are only thought forms, they can occasionally run out of control and cause problems, acting in a manner similar to a poltergeist. However, if the monk ceases to meditate upon the Tulpa, its energy gradually disintegrates and it dissolves once again into non-existence.


Anyway, all good food for thought, as ever. But I do find it interesting that the incident you described occurred in Glastonbury.


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Richard this was all addressed on the David Farrant 17 questions thread. While I realise it's a lot to get through I'm sure if anyone wanted to they could do a search and check. I even c&p'd all of the wiki article on Tulpa's so whosoever was interested could access it in one place so they could follow the conversation and the thoughts on Tulpa's.
The water relationship and the poltergeists were also discussed. Again probably a lot to weigh through but a quick search would come up results or Crow could just read the thread.

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Richard this was all addressed on the David Farrant 17 questions thread. While I realise it's a lot to get through I'm sure if anyone wanted to they could do a search and check. I even c&p'd all of the wiki article on Tulpa's so whosoever was interested could access it in one place so they could follow the conversation and the thoughts on Tulpa's.
The water relationship and the poltergeists were also discussed. Again probably a lot to weigh through but a quick search would come up results or Crow could just read the thread.


Thanks, Rain. The article about Tulpas to which you refer is on Page 33 of the "David Farrant 17 Questions" thread. As you say, there is a lot to go through on there, due to all the bickering that characterised so much of that topic, but worth having a look for the odd gem like that, and the references to water and poltergeists.


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Richard this was all addressed on the David Farrant 17 questions thread. While I realise it's a lot to get through I'm sure if anyone wanted to they could do a search and check. I even c&p'd all of the wiki article on Tulpa's so whosoever was interested could access it in one place so they could follow the conversation and the thoughts on Tulpa's.
The water relationship and the poltergeists were also discussed. Again probably a lot to weigh through but a quick search would come up results or Crow could just read the thread.


Thanks, Rain. The article about Tulpas to which you refer is on Page 33 of the "David Farrant 17 Questions" thread. As you say, there is a lot to go through on there, due to all the bickering that characterised so much of that topic, but worth having a look for the odd gem like that, and the references to water and poltergeists.


:lol: True, but that is probably one of the best threads for me personally because I had all those stored up questions and I got to ask David, who has decades of experience and probably thousands of case studies to draw upon. A lot of responses required some incredible thought. It was hard I think for him to answer under the conditions he was under and also refine his experience into one post. For instance the question I also had about the "invisible smell" that only the dogs seemed to be able to see. He knew instantly that kind of apparition had no form or appearance based on his experience which I didn't think to add at the time. The other questions also for me had a very good Eastern theogical basis in that he explained the karma within the confines of the Eastern thought on existence and moral constraints after death, which I personally was very impressed with and required some thought.

Anyway, I digress, in answer to the question "Were These Paranormal Experiences Or Not?" Let me aske you a question Crow.

When you had the experiences did you immediately think hallacinations, if so - did you take any steps to seek medical advice. If not, why not?

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We've known each other since we were girls, and i wonder if this was just a case of a bit of telepathy, if such a thing exists. It's also interesting to note that when we were together, we used to be able to turn street lights off as we passed underneath, but this only ever happened after visiting a mutual friend who was dying at the time. We both used to feel extremely drained of energy afterwards, and maybe this was our way of replenishing the stocks as it where.


I think the telepathy angle is interesting. I mean, it's a whole subject on its own, but in the sense that it shows how little we really understand about the human mind, compared to other bits of us, and also because it possibly underlines that some people perhaps have more of an affinity for picking up on this sort of thing than others, are more attuned to it, if you will, more receptive, have brains that operate at slightly different frequencies to the norm.

But the part about the street lights was what really struck me. Because something like this happened to me, late last year, and oddly enough, my intention on logging on had been to write about it, but to use it as a counter-balancing argument to the various ones above, as a way of demonstrating how things that might at the time seem bizarre and extraordinary, can prove to have mundane and rational explanations. Because I wasn't aware of this as a phenomenon. And then I saw that and it made me think about it in a different way, but I feel my experience is going to seem rather trivial compared to something with such a sad and serious story behind it. And that happened more than once.

Anyway, it did strike me as bizarre at the time, and then I sort of rationalised it away, but I did take a picture of the street lamp in question, back in the spring when this topic was created on the Forum, and was going to write about it then, but didn't.

This is a path leading onto College Street in Winchester, where I live. The buildings in the middle distance are part of Winchester College Boys School; on the right, out of sight, are the grounds of the ruined Wolvsey Castle, which are encircled by a magnificent high wall, which forms the other border to this wide walkway. I walk along this street every day to and from work, so it's a very familiar place to me.

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One evening in late December last year, I'm walking home (towards the camera), about six o'clock, and it's obviously dark, and the street lights are on, and just as I pass under the street lamp, it goes out. Seems like nothing more than an odd little coincidence, and I promptly put it out of my mind.

The very next morning, I'm walking along there in the other direction, about six-thirty am, and it's still pitch dark, and all the other lamps along the route are still on, apart from the one that had failed as I passed beneath it the night before, which was still off, as one would expect, since the bulb had only failed the previous evening. But as I walk back underneath it, and I mean right that instant, it comes back on. And stays on. Which did seem rather unusual, to say the least. And I did try going back in the other direction, to see if I could make it go off again, but to no avail. But I was still very intrigued by it.

But then, as I said above, I sort of rationalised it away. The lights on that path, and the streets around it, are controlled by a timer that gets adjusted during the year according to the hours of daylight. Often when I walk along there in the early spring, when it's getting lighter, the lights all go out together. So I explained it away by assuming that due to some faulty wiring or switch in the lamp, it's timer had malfunctioned, causing it to go on and off intermittently, but at long enough intervals for this not to happen more than once in the time it takes to walk along there, and by sheer chance it happened twice in succession as I passed beneath it. The odds of that happening are probably fairly long, but the odds of that being the explanation behind it, I feel, are probably extremely short.

So I very much doubt there was anything to it, but now I'm wondering about it a tiny bit more. But your experience sounds vastly more plausible as a genuine psychic occurence. And during difficult times, perhaps, when the mind is experiencing strong emotions such as sadness, such effects might be accentuated.

But I think it does maybe come back to this notion of some people simply being better attuned to pick up on this sort of thing than others, either by training their brain, or just being internally wired that way. And how little we really understand about the mind, and the energy it possibly transmits, without us necessarily realising it.


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But the part about the street lights was what really struck me ... Because I wasn't aware of this as a phenomenon.


I really should have looked this up when it originally happened; there's actually been quite a lot written about it. There's even a term for it - Street Light Interference Phenomenon.

According to Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_light_interference

All very rational sounding, and it definitely deals with mine, I think, but I still reckon seeing something like this happen more than once, and in the company of the same person, does make one wonder a bit.


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Anyway, I digress, in answer to the question "Were These Paranormal Experiences Or Not?" Let me aske you a question Crow.

When you had the experiences did you immediately think hallacinations, if so - did you take any steps to seek medical advice. If not, why not?


No. I don't think seeing or experiencing something out of the ordinary always requires a trip to the doctors. If this were a repetitive occurance i would be the first in that waiting room, trust me. Do bear in mind that they happened years apart too. I find your comment interesting though, and thanks for the tip on David Farants thread, i'll have a read later on.



Then from the looks of it you probably believe these were paranormal experiences. And you've answered your own question. Although I do have a post out there somewhere on standing waves producing/simulating paranormal experiences of those in the vicinity. With accompanying experiment with pipe organs.

Poltergiest activity, temporal loops and tulpas are all considered different categories. So I don't think there is a blanket explanation for what you've seen. Paranormal or not.

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Hi Richard, edited this as you've already found out about it. I personally think it is due to our own electrical charge, and probably not paranormal in the true sense of the word. The phenomena certainly has its sceptics, but here's an article i found that might interest you:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-511680/Electricity-Woman-amazing-powers-causes-lights-flicker-gets-stressed.html


Thank you, and yes, I think there definitely could be an "in-between" sort of solution to this; not strictly speaking paranormal, as you say, but not always down to malfunctioning sodium bulbs, either. Given the electrical impulses in our brain, it's surely not that great a leap to imagine these interacting in some way with electrical appliances, particularly at times of emotional intensity, say.

That said, to balance that, the article makes a good point about "observer bias" playing a part in some of these cases.

But I thought the specific case of the woman in the article was quite persuasive and believable.


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Hi Richard, edited this as you've already found out about it. I personally think it is due to our own electrical charge, and probably not paranormal in the true sense of the word. The phenomena certainly has its sceptics, but here's an article i found that might interest you:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... essed.html

Just to link the theory of electricity and water, could the use of "Holy Water" in exorcisms etc be connected? Kind of using positive charged energy to remove ( banish ) these ghosts/spirits which as Richard mentioned could be
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Who knows? Just a thought that occurred to me.
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This is truly uncanny. i haven't perused this category for quite some time. My cursor stopped on it and voila, here I am. Now for the interetin' stuff. I mentioned in the Farrant hi-jinx topics 'boot a haunted room in a hotel here in Helsingborg. The local paper heard 'boot it and decided to see if they could experience what dozens of SAS air hostesses have over a very long period of time.

The room in question has a spooky history to it, a jealous wife, suspectin' hubby was 2-timin' her, followed him and caught him inflagrante in a tryst. The wife didn't attack hubby, she attacked the ho'. The hubby joins in and they trundle the dead body out of the hotel sight unseen.

The body of the ho' has never been found. The couple were charged but not prosecuted 'cuz their was no body to be found as evidence. The hotel folks saw the man + the ho' go in, they saw the man + wifey leave together. Since this happened nearly 100 years ago, hotel guests over this period of time complained they were 'spooked' by the presence of a female 'gestalt' based on body contours given in descriptions by hotel guests who experienced this 'presence'. It was not there when the lights were on in the room.

As time went by and SAS signed a contract with the hotel for the room to be reserved for Air hostesses, the SAS women experienced more than just a presence. Some complained they were tossed out of bed onto the floor. After a while word got out SAS hostesses refused to use tat room, and were giver another to use.

Folks who have more recently used that room reported hearing rattling sounds, a 'presemce', etc, When the local newspaper took all these renditions into account they wired the room with the latest sound and motion detectors they could obtain. When they listened to the tapes they heard the rumble of the air vent circulation motor in the attic overhead, the air vents were of an exhaust type whereby air got sucked out of the room. The staff workin' down in the basement where food for the restaurant was prepared, dish washers, etc, this ambient noise rumbled thru the vent system at low level, but was detectable in that 'spooked' room.

What has not been adequately explained is the instances where sensible, experienced women, used to staying in hotels all over the planet were tossed out of bed. It happened to several women who made a helluva fuss 'boot it to the hotel, 'cuz they thought it was an attempted rape. The hotel set up hallway observation cameras many years back as a security measure and since the outside hall way was always illuminated the camera had a clear view. There was nobody on the playback tapes.

I asked Richard and others to do a simple test. This has to do with how sensitive yer body is to electrical fields, or conversely, if yer body actually radiates a weak electrical signal. Just get a voltage test meter with 2 prongs. Place them slightly apart on the palm of yer hand. if yer like me the needle indicator don't budge. When ya do an ECG on me the signal intensity is on the low side. I have what are called slow switch muscle fibers. I have a slow heart beat rate, a low blood pressure rate.

Athletes are good subjects to test 'cuz scrawny marathon runners also have moderate twitch muscle fibers, low blood pressure, low heart beat rates. Sprinters, high jumpers, hurdlers, pole vaulters have fast twitch muscle fibers, above normal range heart beats and blood pressure. When ya do an ECG on an athlete their electrical output signal is quite pronounced.

I mention this, 'cuz when yer put in a high stress situation,yer adrenalin surge kicks in. hormones are activated to give yer muscles additional energy, this is accomplished via energized nerve fibers. Dogs detect these enhanced states, this means yer generatin' an electrical signal. Folks with hi-electric signal output who walk by a TV set and cause TV signal interference, make flourescent bulbs to blink, trigger off automatic sensors of all sorts, like automatic opening garage doors.

In the electronics industry these folks are a hazard and can cause computers to malfunction. There is static electricity snaps ya get by walkin' on a wool carpet then touch metal. Hi-charged folk create visible sparks and loud snaps. Since, the presence of metal oxides, aluminum or iron in soil and a hi-electrical field person walk over an area with a divining rod, they get activity, folk like me never get. IMHO Ms Crow dependin' on yer religious upbringin', be it voodoo, pagan-heathen, Christian yer attuned to another wordly presence. Yer body electrical system didn't come across as bein' overwhelmed, means yer confident that it wasn't life threatenin'.

Atheists who debunk religion, the afterlife, etc are less oft to discuss paranormal situations like yours. When debunkers, cynics, atheists experience an other worldly experience its 'cuz they are also seekin' therapy. That is what I saw in clinical practice. Drugs + alcohol play a role as well, especially hallucinogenics. I bring up the psyche element 'cuz its when whatever ya experience overwhelms yer learned expectations of things other worldly and it scares ya to yer very core, therapy is helpful in helpin' ya rebuild the associative mental reflexes ya learned from childhood to help ya adapt to the adult world yer parents were hopin' they prepared ya for. if anything, religion acts like a very effective buffer in helpin' ya deal with yer own demons.

Folk who have what Freud termed neuroses, is so termed, 'cuz they are learned adaptive behaviors that get triggered thru response of yer nervous system. Psychoses are named 'cuz of where those behaviors manifest themself. Can a neurotic be psychotic, you betcha, The same for a psychopath or sociopath to exhibit neurotic tendencies. In the instances ya mentioned Ms Crow, you came across calm, cool, collected, but let's hope that was the way it was when they originally happened, and ya didn't get an unexpected brown stain in yer knickers

I spook me own missus, 'cuz for whatever canny reason, I hear a phone ring in the house, I know who its for and say so before pickin' up the receiver. When its a call from Florida from her now deceased bro's widow, Kat, I tell her, its Kat and automagically hand her the phone without even sayin' hello. Is this psychic, I don't think so, I consider it to be what I call a SWAG, a Scientific Wild Ass Guess. In any given set of circumstance a probability calculation kicks in on the part of most folk.

Ya hear folk say, I could 'feel' it, it was a 'hunch' I got, etc. In the cases Ms Crow mentions, she displayed typical irish gallows humor in that if its yer time to go don't make a big scene out of it. I have a hard time imaginin' Ms Crow could ever be a drama queen and play it up to the hilt, I am sure her sense of humor would kick in and would be on the floor laughin' herself silly.

One query for either Richard or Ms Crow, could somebody be just takin' the mickey?, testin' to see if ya can take a prank played on ya? In the scene where Richard described walkin' down a lane, had he had his dog with him and the dog growled, that'd mean sumbuddy definitely was there.

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Good Lord. Ms Crow’s posts have disappeared.

I’m sure I saw them. Did anybody else see them?

Or were they just a series of apparitions?

Did anybody hear a dog growl?

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Wombat wrote:
Good Lord. Ms Crow’s posts have disappeared.

I’m sure I saw them. Did anybody else see them?

Or were they just a series of apparitions?

Did anybody hear a dog growl?

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Using my detective skills(clicking - checking dates - and adding 2+2 to get 100) I would say Ms Crow deleted them after her experience with Renne nicking one her photo's without attribrition or permission off another website.

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Giggling away here Rain, but you're absolutely right. Was very hacked off with Renne over that, and i'm just being a bit more circumspect with what i post as of now. Whilst Facebook is a great networking and social tool, it does allow the unscrupulous to just help themselves to other peoples' work.

Hope you guys have a great Christmas, and manage to kick back and relax. :D xx

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Merry Christmas to you too, Crow.

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Giggling away here Rain, but you're absolutely right. Was very hacked off with Renne over that, and i'm just being a bit more circumspect with what i post as of now. Whilst Facebook is a great networking and social tool, it does allow the unscrupulous to just help themselves to other peoples' work.

Hope you guys have a great Christmas, and manage to kick back and relax. xx

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Hi Crow, glad to hear you are ok, and a very merry Christmas from me too :D
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Thank you Rain. Thank you Crow.

Another mystery solved.

Merry Christmas from me too.

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