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it's handed you on a plate and yet you turn your noses up...you're all quite happy to fanny around with inconsequentialities and ignore the fact that the "object" that Constantine based the future of the Christian church on.... had absolutely nothing to do with religion.

Sheila, will you please stop being rude all the time?

I have told you many times that until i *see* this artifact, and see it properly associated with an 'object' that 'Constantine based the future of the Christian chruch on' , that i see no point in going over all this ground about what it looks like, who had it etc etc.

Perhaps i feel that you are 'quite happy to fanny around with inconsequentialities' ....regarding this object? But i am not rude to you about what you post, right?

I also do not accept that the object in question could raise the dead or whatever else people 'believe', and i do not think Sauniere partook in a 'cult of the dead' ritual, on evidence provided at the moment.

Ok?

I mean, is it ok to hold a different opinion than the one you hold? Can we talk about other things other than that?

What is it Sheila this object?. Is it a sculpture of the Devil's phallus. Judging by the behaviour of the Church of Rome that would be most apt.

I'm with Sandy on this one. Let's examine evidence we can actually see and evaluate.

TCP

It concerns the episcopi vagantes - the "wandering bishops" with verifiable apostolic lineage but with tenuous (at best) connections to bona fide churches. A phenomena that started back in Saunière's time but continues to this day, and was really going "whole-hog" in the 1960s and 1970s when much of the groundwork was being laid out for the launch of the RLC myth. I've got to consult my notes before I start giving more in-depth info though. Sorry to tease.

TCP

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Can I give you a bit of advice based on my own experience, Sheila? What people enjoy most about this little enigma of ours is the endless opportunity for speculation; it's good mental exercise. The minute anyone offers the answers "on a plate" it is generally rejected. For that reason alone, I doubt that any "solution" will ever be broadly accepted. It kills the fun.

TCP

I don't think you were being rude, Sheila. Maybe a little exasperated is all.

TCP

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sorry if you see me as being rude but it wasn't meant to be

Sorry sheila, maybe i was exasperated too!!!

Its just that i tire of hearing that the solution to the whole Sauniere enigma is this *crista*.
Based on what?

Supposition. The same as everyone elses theories, right?

And yes, i have read all the texts you have, and know that Constantine went to the Lendit etc etc ...and i read all the texts by Cherisey etc etc .... but i do not claim to *know* 100% what was goin on 100 years ago with Sauniere.

the episcopi vagantes - the "wandering bishops" with verifiable apostolic lineage

ok, i'll look into it.

you maybe need to do some investigation into what the Marquis was actually searching for

I spend alot of time investigating Cherisey.
And i talk to people who knew him.

And i dont go with the 'cult of the dead' theory, just yet ...

How do you, in fact, not know, that Cherisey is hoodwinking you in your ideas?

But how do you know that what you have determined is accurate? What tangible evidence do you have at hand that might substantiate your ideas as to what Chérisey was up to?

TCP

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Trouble with whom?

And if I have no idea what you're referring to, how can I "choose" to ignore it?

TCP

“A history seen through two stained glasses, the Tarot in the order and the song (of good king Dagobert) in the disorder, if one refers to the version given by Grande ‘Universal Larousse’ of the 19th century…….The reader who would like to discover a second CIRCUIT (NdA Cromleck) under circuit can restore the chapters in the order of the verses. Other structures were considered that we leave to the reader the joy of discovering himself……..As you will see, friendly reader, if you will be also intelligent (malignant) qu’ Amédée.


"The doctors prescribed me a cure in Rennes les Bains; obsolete thermal spa located on the meridian line zero. I was going to discover over there that if I had a cast, it was to avoid the look of the others whilst at the same time deal with the evasion of that secretly”

“Two contrary desires share my heart, glory to publish all that at the great day, and to jealously keep this treasure without ever saying anything. My whole life needs to hesitate and I awake in the same moment that I die….. By the celibacy which is imposed on them the priests are the best guards of treasures than one can conceive…..A priest, because it is concerned [with] Sky and Earth, must meditate on the relationships of astronomy with the geography…..With the difference in the phenomena which should be seen to believe, Cromleck of RLB [Rennes les Bains] is seen only when one believes in it, nothing is really proven there, not even the roulers or hones it posed which will appear readily to the whims of nature.”

"the parish of Rennes-les-Bains guards the heart of Roseline".

"My dear Roseline, who died on 6 August 1967, the Feast of the Transfiguration, while leaving the Zero Meridian by car." (p. 108).

Quotes from Philippe de Cherisey.

Doesn't look like he was interested in a physical object to me.

I take it you know what Roulers and Hones are.

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The million dollar question: whasse name of sse girlfriend and whasse gotta do with sse RLC enigma?

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I don't know why I just remembered this.


This isn't off-topic, I don't suppose but does anyone remember the urban myth that Charlie Chaplin (yep, patrice's ex father-in-law) had money out that if anyone could produce a seance to contact his dead-mother. (was that in the stargate conspiracy ) but I remember when I was little watching a old hollywood movie in which he tries to contact his passed mother.
And that he said he did magic but there was sometimes more to what he did, he couldn't explain how some things happened.

BTW I know he was a freemason.

The Madonna Oriflamma with two Chrismons, by Nicholas Roerich :
http://www.agniart.com/eng/item-38503~Fine-art-posters~Roerich-Nicholas~Madonna-Oriflamma-Fine-art-print-A3

BTW.
Roerich was the one who first wrote about Jesus surviving crucification and living on in Asia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Roerich

Well Roseline died whilst leaving Rennes les Bains. If you leave Rennes les Bains today to travel north you'll find a roman baths and there you'll find a meridian marker placed there in the year 2000.

Thomas Plantard de St Clair was inaugurated as Priory of Sion Grand Master on 6th August 1989.

At precisely 10 o'clock solar time.

The Feast of the Transfiguration is the Celtic festival of Lughnasagh and Lughnasagh is a Cross Quarter Day i.e. The middle of the Astronomical summer.

The Transfiguration of Jesus took place on Mount Tabor. The locals of the Ariege call Montsegur Mount Tabor.

Montsegur was a Solar Temple prior to the Cathars, who were only there for 44 years.

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