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Hugo,



Mmm, that might be true. Haven't really seen many takers on it here, after all. That's in spite of the nattering about newsletters and e-mails and back-and-forth nonsense alluding to it to drum up interest.



That's a good point. I know what the book is, though, but not sure how many copies the publishers have.

Dave,



Change of username, eh? So who is Hugo?

Sure, the book exists. But, to get technical, it contains a submission from Barb, among a stack of others. Suffice it to say, the book's focus is on paranoia and conspiracies.

Oh, and by the way, this "large American publisher"...care to share what other works they've published? Y'know, so the rest of us unenlightened folk can get a better idea of the kind of stuff they churn out?



Ah, settle down Dave. If Barb had been more forth coming about her original so-called "news update", then we wouldn't have this problem.

Tony, if I caught Dave's assertion correctly ... there has been pre-release reviews... its this I refer to in The Rise scenario. The Rise devotees wrote most of the flattering reviews of a book that was delayed 1 year prior to hitting the stores.

Is this the same scenario with the Robin Hood book? D + D, Inc have yet to give an honest, straightforward reply- Besides I want Dave to point me to an independent reviewer who dead-panned the book so that we get an un-biased opinion 'boot it.

Ya see, where I live anglo is not the lingua france here. I seriously doubt that book will appear here unless I make a request thru my local librarian. I did that for several books related to the RLC enigma here.

FOR 'HUGO FURST'

Here is the extract from the Robin Hood book, 'Hugo Furst'. Sorry ya missed it and were a bit slow on the up-take. It was on Page 10 - we are now on Pg 15!

Happy reading

David Farrant . . .

"PARANOIA: The Conspiracy Reader (Volume 1) Published April 2010 (180 pages).

Click here to read excerpt: http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/volume1_highlights.html

Relevant extract:

Robin Hood
Yorkshire’s Buried Treasure
by Barbara Green

Deep in the heart of an ancient woodland in West Yorkshire, hidden beneath a formidable barrier of fierce thorns and dense undergrowth, there is a hidden grave. Here rests the mortal remains of Robin Hood, the Prince of Robbers, England’s outlaw hero, bloodily slain by the Prioress of Kirklees Nunnery six hundred years ago and cast into an unhallowed grave.

Who was the evil nun and why did she commit so foul a murder? What was the role of Red Roger of Doncaster, the convent priest? Is it possible that he was really Will Scarlet, turned monk, also the prioress’s lover? Who was the prioress? Was she Dame Mary Startin, who died of the Black Death in 1350?

All that is left of this medieval whodunit is a ruined grave, hidden in deep woodland, within the derelict priory gatehouse where Robin was so gruesomely done to death. Was the famous outlaw a victim of thwarted passion, pagan sacrifice, bad nursing, accident, natural causes or – vampirism? The entire area where this horrific drama took place is shrouded in, according to one writer, “... a mystery which local people only reluctantly tried to penetrate.”

Today, Robin lies forgotten and unmourned in his lonely and desolate sepulchre, for few people know of the grave’s existence or its whereabouts. Why is this so? Should not such a monument be an international place of pilgrimage, and should Yorkshire, not Nottingham, be the centre of the famous folk hero’s legend? These are the mysteries this article attempts to unravel.

In 1983 I was asked to nurse Sir John Armytage, the 8th baronet of Kirklees Hall, in his last illness. I was the Brighouse district nurse at the time. Sir John passed away and the following year I asked Lady Armytage, his widow, if I could visit Robin Hood’s grave. Lady Armytage had inherited the estate while Sir Martin, Sir John’s son by his first wife, moved away. Shortly afterwards Lady Armytage sold the hall (which was turned into luxury flats) but kept the farm and historical sites, and went on to build a new house on the priory ruins.

In the following years I became very interested in the legend of Robin Hood, and after researching the Yorkshire connections I wrote a book called Marian’s Christmas Rose about Maid Marian with reference to Kirklees Priory. I asked Lady Armytage if I could take the book to the Kirklees Annual Garden Party in 1985. In response, Lady A and her “organiser,” Mrs. James, paid an uninvited visit to my home. Mrs. James waved the book around, complaining that it mentioned Kirklees. She stated that it could not be sold at Kirklees because it would interest people in Robin’s grave and no one was allowed to visit it. Lady A remained silent throughout this visit.

In 1985, I formed the Yorkshire Robin Hood Society (YRHS) with a friend, Ruth Harrington. Lady Armytage was invited to become a Patron but declined, saying she was “too busy.” Later, Ruth and I were filmed by the BBC programme Look North, but we had to go to Shibden Park as Lady Armytage would not let us film on site. The following year Ruth and I visited the Nottingham Medieval Market to sell my book, Marian Christmas Rose, which caused a ruckus. We were reported to the Sheriff of Nottingham. In 1987, Ruth and I were filmed by TV for a programme called FAX in Wakefield library because we were again refused permission at Kirklees. This film was never broadcast.

Later in the year we visited London in order to meet John Pope de Locksley of the London Robin Hood Club. Content removed

The following year I was filmed again, with another member, Evelyn Friend, by the BBC for a programme called People. Once more, the Yorkshire Robin Hood Society was not allowed to go to the grave, though the film crew was allowed, provided they kept the location secret. When the film was broadcast, Evelyn and I were furious to find that all our comments about the grave had been edited out, and we were left talking about trivial things – Evelyn’s most memorable line being, “I am Robin Hood in drag.” ...

Continued in PARANOIA: The Conspiracy Reader, Volume 1."

Seems like ya got a bit confused again 'Hugo Furst'. Maybe too much Swedish lager again!?

David Farrant

Dave, when I read that when it was posted, my take was, Damiana was hyping her text. That ain't a review of the book by a dis-interested person reading that book. It is a typical amazon plug ya see for every book amazon is flogging. The amazon reviews are a joke, the world's worst kept secret.

I had exceptionally high hopes of a scholarly critique of this Robin Hood book. Compare that article damiana wrote to how Hollyweird is flogging Robin Hood nowadaze...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4454676/r ... eaturette/

BTW Dave, Swedish beer is lo-octane, say 1,2 up to 2.2 % alky by volume, barely 'nuff to get a fly hi. All it does is get ya bloated and trottin' off to the loo. Now had ya said Danish beer, yer in an all together world. Carlsberg Elephant beer comes in 11% alky vol strength.

"Now had ya said Danish beer, yer in an all together world. Carlsberg Elephant beer comes in 11% alky vol strength."

Sorry, I stand corrected on that. You can buy Danish beer in London. In fact, I drink it myself!

By the way, in case you're wondering why Barbarba has'nt posted, its because she's down in London at the moment . . . just thought you might like to know!

David Farrant

Dave, have ya ever read an over hyped book? This particular book discusses quite a few themes ya find on this forum. When ya read my attempt to critique it, ye'll get an idea as to what I expect from a critique...

My Odyssey--- to manage to read expectant one

Ya will find that topic under other theories

Dave, That ain't the point I raised dude. All I asked ya to do was check out how I agonized over reading a book that dealt with things this forum was set up to discuss in the 1st place.

The next part of my query was, when will that amareekin book show up on this side on the pond? I can't read it if it ain't available, yes? How can anybody discuss its literary merits, otherwise?

"The next part of my query was, when will that amareekin book show up on this side on the pond? I can't read it if it ain't available, yes? How can anybody discuss its literary merits, otherwise?"

Your queries about the Robin Hood book all amount to the same thing 'Hugo Furst' - queries which I have already answered. To save advertising the book, I invited people here to PM myself and I would give them the title, author and ISBN. You must have missed that as well. At the same time, I also sent a copy of this book information to Arcadia to repuditate a false information been given here that I was in any way responsible for the book's publication.

The 'archangel M' published an extract here giving the full publcation details.

I also mentioned that the book was available on Amazon inviting people to check.

So there you have your own answer. the information is already here on page 10 I believe). If you can't find that, I suggest you look on Amazon.

Whatever, I am not in the business of acting as some 'advertising service' for American publishers. So if you really want the book, just go out and order it. But please stop wasting my time asking questions which have already been clearly answered.

David Farrant

Dave, have ya any awareness as to how expensive it is to buy an amareekin book and have it sent here, ten have to pay more tan what thast book cost in postal fees, import duties, etc?

I am aware of all these technicalities, but that don't answer the query, when will that book be buyable to the UK public? Ya see, I can go to Gumtree and see what folk want for it, after that read it once and wanna unload it.

If that book gets dumped onto Gumtree in a large volume, that sez more 'boot its intrinsic worth, yes? I use that standard whenever I buy a book here. If its that readily available on the 2nd hand market, its worth at best, 10P, 200P if it has a more durable cover and backing, whereby the pages don't all fall out the moment ya open it.

Ya see Dave, its all of these practical details as well, yes? It ain't just a matter of, ok folks ya can get that UK theme book from an amareekin outlet. Do ya realize what an insult that is if a UK themed book can't get published by a UK vanity publisher. Is it really that badly written?

"I am aware of all these technicalities, but that don't answer the query, when will that book be buyable to the UK public? Ya see, I can go to Gumtree and see what folk want for it, after that read it once and wanna unload it."

As I have no control in the distribution or the marketing of the book, I can't answer that as I simply don't know. So you'll just have to find out from the publishers. Surely you know how to send an email. That doesn't cost anything, yes?

David Farrant

Dear Barbara (Damiana):

It was very nice to see you and your daughter and granddaughter the other day, though I was a little bit disappointed that during the whole of the time that I was with you, I never heard you use the word 'dickipoggy'. I hope in particular that Jade enjoyed the Tower of London and other sights. I also hope that you made it home without difficulty, though I suppose the Icelandic volcano will not have affected motorcars.

I am slightly puzzled by what you mean about having a genealogy proving descent from Jesus. I do know that Pope de Locksley sent the authors of 'The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail' a genealogy intended to prove his own descent from both Jesus Christ and Robin Hood, and also, under another name, a photograph of himself apparently floating in the air and clinging to a football post, "to keep from drifting away", but I don't think that is what you meant. Please explain.

Gareth J Medway

Gareth, are you aware of a woman, an amareekin livin' in LaLa Land, where else, who claims to be the current iteration of bein' a love child of Jesus + Magdalen? She wrote a book which deals with the RLC enigma as a backdrop to her drama, its called The Expected One.

I started a topic you will find under Other Theories on this forum, Its called my Odyssey..., its a critique of the text and the author's claim. If you are into that type of reading. The author is a friend of Andrew, the guy who has this forum.

Hi Gareth and David--I have just got back--well last night--my cat had suddenly fallen ill yesterday and I had to rush him to the vets when I got back--my neighbour was looking after him and noticed he was a bit"off colour" yesterday but as I was coming back the next day she didnt phone to worry me, but he was quite poorly when I arrived home and is now in the animal hospital--more later when the vet rings. So I have just opened over 200 e mails! Mostly rubbish. Sorry about the short visit, but with having my grandaughter we coudl not stop long, more of that in a private e mail. We founf JPL'S London Horror Tours leaflet in the pub near the Tower, he mentioned David running after vampires in Highgate Cemetary! an also that eh was descended from soem other famous person, I forget who it was till I check the leaflet again, but he also says he si descended from Robin Hood, he didnt mention the lord chief vampire hunter though, wonder why!

anyhow will write later, David seems to have made an attempt to sort those boys heads out but is Mission Impossible--if you mention the book you are advertising and if you don't mention it you are in the wrong also!

tata damiana

Damiana I also have a very olde cat but I doubt this forum wants to know the daily status on our Cornish Rex. I hope yer trip went well, Dave was kindly 'nuff to mention yr bein' out of the 'Net, so welcome back to the fray.

I hope ya peruse the posts of the vamp topics to get a feel for what is bein' discussed. It'd be nice of ya to solve a lil' conundrum Dave is perplexed in dealing with regardin' a yankee published book 'boot a bloke icon, called Robin Hood.

BTW, if that amareekin publisher is located below the Mason-Dixon line he be's a rebel, y'awl, he ain't no damn yankee, hehehe

A lot of Americans and Canadians are well into the Kirklees situation, that is one of my beefs--that esteemed Yankee professors and suchlike were allowed to visit the grave when locals were told to go away and not be a nuisance! Whatever way you look at it that aint right and the only reason it happened was because these "esteemed " people could not be fobbed off without creating bad publicity, also Tony Robinson and Princess Anne and Scream Team who state they paid megabucks.

Doe that help?

Damiana

Damiana thanx for the rely. The gripe I have with them amareekin publishers is unless they know they can unload a title by the 100s thery won't ship to smaller markets.

Here in Sweden the competition of getting a book published and sold by a Swedish author automagically marginalizes most foreign writers here. There is Ad Libris, an agency set up by the Swedish state to get foreign language books into the Swedish library system. It does this on a yearly basis. If a request for a specific author, like a Nobel Prize winner in literature for example, the author with the most requested gets hi priority

I mentioned to Dave, most likely the only way I will ever see that book is to wait 'til it gets flogged on Gumtree. Once it shows up I will ask me bruvver who lives outside Manchester to buy it, then send it to me. He doesn't follow this forum so he has idea as to what we discuss. More than likely if he buys that book it will make the rounds in his own family first, than his missus will send it on to her family, maybe I will see it in say a year after he buys it for me.

The point bein' I seriously doubt that book will be available on the open UK book market unless some major book buyer gets a good bulk purchase. Then it will have to be shipped by boat due to the airline slow down.

Princess Anne ?

Barb,



You're referring to the bloke listed as the "head of the junior department of the Highgate Vampire Society", so David should be very familiar with him.

Among other things, he also claims to be a possible reincarnation of Jack the Ripper.

Oh, and then there's those nudie pics floating about, performing some kinda occult ceremony with Dave. It was also on his behalf, that Dave sent off voodoo dolls to the coppers, which helped him land a stint in jail.

If the "head of the junior department of the Highgate Vampire Society" is happy to say Dave buggered about the cemetery looking for vampires, who are you to argue?

Hugo,



Agreed. Why aren't these "chinwags" kept in PM? By pure coincidence, I imagine, they always manage to slip in some kind of promotion and/or a dig at certain folk on here. Like that "mission impossible" gobbledygook.



That doesn't surprise me in the slightest, Hugo, considering Dave even gives his own book five stars, under his former Secretary/ex's name, no less. Also, what Dave posted was simply a cut-n-paste job of the text itself. Yet to see an actual review of said article.

Dave,



Um, I think you might be the one confused, Dave. It's not a "Robin Hood book", as you refer to it, but a book about conspiracies. Barbara's entry on Robin Hood is one of several contributions on differing subjects.

Try not to get too far ahead of yourself in your attempts to belittle people, Dave.

Speaking of which, I do find it funny that you're so keen on promoting the book, specifically, Barbara's contribution. It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that you're a) her friend b) you feature in the article itself, would it?

Dave,



Yes, like talking about an imaginary Robin Hood book.

Out of curiousity, Dave, in his capacity as the head of the junior department of the Highgate Vampire Society, what kind of services does John provide the Society with? What does he do?

"Yes, like talking about an imaginary Robin Hood book."

Think he's referring to the one that's just been published in America! Just ignore him Barbara, the man has obviously got 'a screw loose somewhere'!

David

Dave,



Screws loose? Speak for yourself!

The American book is about conspiracies, not Robin Hood. You even copy-n-pasted the extract from Barb's article and provided the link.

Geez, you really are loosing the plot, aren't you...especially as I wasn't addressing Barbara, but yourself.

Of course, this is coming from a guy who admits he "hardly ever read books unless these might be sent to me for review purposess". Obviously, your reliability as a "reviewer" even in this capacity (when you're not using someone else's name to promote your own books) is pretty suspect, considering you can't even read forum posts or webpages properly!

So, why don't you do the decent thing and apologise to me and Hugo for your errors and insults concerning this imaginary Robin Hood book, eh?

"So, why don't you do the decent thing and apologise to me and Hugo for your errors and insults concerning this imaginary Robin Hood book, eh?"

FOR BARBARA,

Get this! No, Don't reply! Lets remember all this is from a person who believes (on his own admission) that ghosts and/or 'vampires' are really 'sent by the devil' as demons' to fool the living that they are really the souls or spirits of those since departed!

Need I say more? And this 'nut' is now raving about a material book that does really exist in the land of the living - albeit in America. Gosh, I know thre are a lot of nutters around, but his assertions really 'take the cake'!!

David

PS Get back on my Blog - like to hear Laura's opinion!

Ah, I shoulda known better than to expect you to apologise for being wrong and making personal attacks against myself.



Yep, and? Many, many Christians believe the same thing. The vampire bit you threw in was a hell of an exaggeration considering I've also said I don't believe in vampires. Once again, you've showed that your reading comprehension is pretty limited!

Also, your mocking of my beliefs is pretty funny considering that you believe in "psychic entities with vampire like characteristics", use magic circles in paranormal investigations and exorcised the spirit of a legendary from property you trespassed on.

Oh, and someone who claims the Highgate vampire is "still active". Keep the laughs and simple-mindedness rolling along, Dave!



Actually, you do need to say more. For example, you should have the decency to admit you were wrong. You should also learn to read what you actually promote rather than attack people willy-nilly. It makes you look like a clown.

The book, again, is not about Robin Hood. It's about conspiracies. It's an anthology of writings on different conspiracies, one of which, is Barb's concerning the so-called conspiracy to prevent access to Robin's alleged grave in Kirklees. Want more proof? Here's a portion of the book's description:



If you're gonna call me a nut, at least get your bloody facts straight.

On the plus side, it shows your capability as a "researcher" and "investigator", so, again, keep up the good work.