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Is this a veiled reference to cemeteries bein' used for midnight revelers, with their BYOBB 'thamg', what type of 'spirits' are they usually?, single malt. double malt? blended?

This is the quote I have ïn mind..."You have stated elsewhere on Arcadia that you don't believe in ghosts, but here you are talking about "spirits that protect the graveyard." Who or what are these "spirits"? Where is the evidence for their existence at Highgate Cemetery?

I explained to you in a PM that you have the wrong person as I am nothing to with the "Grail Church" or "conservative Catholicism".

The least you could have done is withdraw your false assumption.

Also, I can see no evidence on the forum of what you privately told me about how you view both sides in the debate.

"I explained to you in a PM that you have the wrong person."

But Roger didn't say you were anybody else, "Caledfwich", so how could he have the wrong person?

David Farrant

Hahahahaha,

Nice one David

For Caledfwich . I do not think i am being inconsistent .I am suggesting there could be other explainations for the apparantly sinister goings on in highgate cemetery, and also the strange experience iwent through in a cemetery near where i live.Why shouldnt there be spirits or guardian forces that protect graveyards? Why does everything have to be evil? Its a very old place.Who are we to call evil all the strange and many primeval forces that surround it?These forces have been there probably,since the beginning of time and will be there long after we have gone.You only get your knickers in a twist because you are frightened of what you dont understand .What is the point of this "nest of vampires"?Why are they there?Did any of them have a job or purpose?No seriously they must have had a purpose other than going round biting people.I mean thats hardly an end in itself is it? what did they do when they werent biting necks,sit around chatting and smoking fags? The bishop could have started off more sensibly by trying to find out why they were there,instead of reacting hysterically.You talk of vampires and demons and evil,How incredibly negative ! It is a miserable ,pessimistic view of life. If you go around looking for these things im not surprised you find them .You certainly look hard enough. Hasnt anyone ever told you life reflects back at you what you give out? If you didnt look for evil you wouldn find it.

Why are you making your alternative, irrelevant suggestion when you were not alive at the time and therefore did not research or investigate the case while those who did, eg Peter Underwood, Bishop Manchester and others, supported the vampire theory. The bishop and his associates actually made discovery of the vampire. As did others. Then there are the witnesses and victims. What they described (filtering out the fraudulent) was a vampire. Why do you feel compelled to say that there must be another explanation when there was no other explanation at the time?

Why shouldn't there be "spirits or guardian forces"? I am not saying there shouldn't be such forces, but would such forces attack and kill? That is what the Highgate Vampire did.

The question you should be asking is: Why shouldn't there be vampires?

Obviously not everything is evil, but vampires by definition are.

I am not frightened of what I don't understand. You are frightened of what I do understand.

"What is the point of this nest of vampires?" you ask. To someone, like yourself, who does not believe in such things it would have little point. To someone who believes in their existence they are demonic and evil. They parody what is angelic and good and they do so with evil intent. This would make sense to a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu and some others. But clearly not to you.

You speak about vampires as if they are humans with human attributes. They are not. They are considered to be demons with demonic attributes.

How did Bishop Manchester "react hysterically"? You offer no explanation for this slur. You say he should have found out what they were. He did. He even wrote a book about them explaining in detail precisely what vampires are. I recommend it to you. The book is called The Vampire Hunter's Handbook.

What I find more "miserable" and "pessimistic" is to live a blinkered life in perpetual ignorance. Rose-tinted spectacles will not help when dealing with evil when it comes knocking at your door. You don't need to seek evil. It invariably finds you. The victims of the Highgate Vampire didn't go looking for it.

It found them!

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Gustav Jung

Out of curiousity, Caled, have you actually ever encountered any vampires, yourself?

Out of curiousity, Hogg, have you actually answered any of my questions relating to you getting another member banned?

When you do, I might consider repsonding to yours.

Yes, I have, repeatedly. Now, over to you.

No, you haven't, repeatedly. Now, over to you.

Ok, so I'll take that as a...no.

That's right, Hogg, ... no, you haven't answered any of my questions relating to you getting another member banned.

And until you do ...

BTW; what does 'George' the alleged 'dragon - but not vamp slayer' have to do with strange goin's in Abner? Was he involved in them as well? What role did 'george' have on the forum that yer so hot + bothered 'boot?

Problem is, Caled, that I have discussed why I wasn't overly thrilled with George's messages. But you keep ignoring the fact that I can't discuss them much here. I even quoted extracts from his post, as I mentioned, but these were censored. So exactly how much do you want me to say about it.

Plus, the guy's (rightfully) banned. Get a grip. It's also funny that you're holding your own views on vampires hostage, in lieu of an inane discussion on someone you don't even profess to know. And now, after saying that I should be ignored, you're still responding to me, and have even resorted to a PM! Jeez, have you flipped or what.

jabbs,



That's a bloody good question.

Tony, do ya get a sort of deja vu 'thang' when ya focus on a problem and the source of that problem suddenly crops up? I mean, this 'george' dude for instance. Its obvious to me Tony, yer on the right track and the folks 'george' apparently is in cahoots with don't wanna see their mojo stolen out from underneath their feet. Be so kind Tony and progress with yer original take on this.

When their mojo don't work no more, they will need more than just a lil' bit of inspiration from the 'spirit' of Chuck berry, if ya get my drift. BTW; are there any so-called rock stars planted in Abner cemetery? There are so many dead stars these daze I can imagine the trendier cemeteries might even have a special section for them to do improvised spooky jam sessions, hey, that's what their life style was all 'boot, yes?

Just read the demonic inspired lyrics of the goth-metal bands.

Hahaha let's say I have my suspicions, which is why I've asked the mods to look into it. Whether or not they have or will, remains to be seen.

One thing's for sure, he certainly seems personally offended by that clown getting the boot!



Not too sure on that one, but Highgate's got its fair share of dead celebs. Like a bloke named Karl Marx, for instance!



Oh, I have. And heard some of their stuff, too. Let's say that level of screeching ain't exactly my cup of tea!

"Oh yes I have! "

"Oh no you've not !"

"Oh yes I have "

"Oh no you've not "

what next ?


"Look behind you !!!"

It's the


This thread is priceless !

"Ladies 'n' gentlemen, welcome to the Highgate Vampire Panto !!!!!"

Pilrig, have ya got an encore to top that? ... hehehe.,, yer superb humor shinin' thru again, good man, Pilrig.

Yeah, I check these threads out down here once in awhile, andI have to admit they are hilarious.---Bill

jabbs,



Funny that you mention that...take a look at who magically re-appeared recently!

Wayward, yer seein' ole jake as he once't was gettin' his humor mojo back into high gear again. Its kinda hard if ya don't come across a sharp witted guy like Tony. Had it not been for him we couldn't have had this friendly chat 'tween us. Pilrig has also come to the rescue on many occasions as well, good man Pilrig.

At 1st I thought this portion of the forum was gonna be a stuck in the middle of a mud-slingin' match, which it gets to be in parts, but I saw the opening for a dose of humor to be injected and give other folks a chance to participate in all of the mud slingin'. Why should D + D, Inc hog it all.

Interestingly 'nuff, folk who pride themself on havin' a sense of humor as a national trait display the least amount of it, how come? can ya figure that one out Bill?

IMHO, the goodly folks of Oz got a good start in life with bein' exposed to Irish gallows humor for most of their life, hehehe

Pilrig to the rescue ? Well when I was a kid I was a fan of Thunderbirds - International Rescue

But God bless Andrew for his initial interview with Bishop Sean Manchester and setting up the Highgate Vampire forum. I've never came across anything like it. No, I don't mean the puir auld vampire, who must be felling a little neglected, but the mud-slinging and feuding. Hilarious. I'm sure that when we're feeling a wee bit sad and depressed a tonic would be to click onto the Highgate forum or the Baldry's cat site for some welcome levity and mirth.

Pilrig, is it considered in bad taste to bring a cut lunch and have an impromtu picnic in a UK cemetery? Like the troopies in Afghan?

If a spook wants to scarf it up, will it settle for spam, wonderful spam?...
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