Tony, puh-leeze let me know if this holds true for Oz as well. I have never heard of a haunted Catholic cemetery, they all seem to be public or a protestant sect connected Church cemetery datin' way-way back. Its seems to ba an anglo 'thang' as well. Îs there an extensive literature 'boot spooky hauntings in other countries without a Catholic cemetery tradition?
Hmm, that's a good point. The Catholics have a long tradition of hauntings, though. But as to Catholic cemeteries, specifically...not sure. Oz has a decent serve of allegedly haunted places, though. Here's a few of 'em
For Anthony.I take your point.Perhaps its better to refer to it as the highgate"entity".And yes it would seem that they dont like people trespassing on their land. But the point is ,does that necessarily make them evil?
No, it wouldn't. But I'm just wondering exactly what nature of being these things are, in the context you're giving. For instance, in my case, I believe in two supernatural sources, if you will and both "sides" emanate from one or the other: God or the devil. That's the context of my belief. So, in terms of the supernatural, I view such beings as coming from one or the other. How about you?
As for what they are im still trying to work it out.I have asked David on "17 questions with" whether it could have been something evoked from years ago.No one knows what these things really are .
Well, see, I believe in the possibility of invocation, meself. Such acts are like a beacon to evil spirits, however. And there's certainly evidence that Highgate was a bit of a breeding ground for occultists. At least some of this was obviously spurred on by the publicity generated off two of its "investigators".
People like the writer Dion Fortune wrote about things called "thought forms" and "elementals .Things that originate in our own minds,then take on alife of their own.
Yes, I've heard of these things. The Theosophists were big on elementals and thought forms or tulpas
, come from the Tibeteans.
Crowley and a friend once claimed(whether or not it was true) to have created a magic"child" that appeared,after it had been evoked by using his own lifeforce and the aid of magical invocations.
A "moonchild", yes. Crowley was heavily into the dark arts, if you will. Interestingly, a lot of his writings inspired Wicca. Take the Wiccan Rede, for instance. It's based on one of his credos.
People have claimed to see doubles and doppelgangers.Once someone did an experiment to see if they could create a "ghost".For weeks a group of people began to talk about the"ghost"as if it was real.then strange things started happenning,inthe house.This entity really didseem to take on life of its own.I think the highgate entity could be anything.I dont think this view is blinkered at all.
Ah, yes, you're referring to the Philip Aylesford Experiment
That's an interesting interpretation. The Highgate "entity" as though form. But do you believe that people can manufacture such paranormal phenomena?
What hyporcrisy! from somebody who seems to have forgotten his own admissions that he believes all ghosts (including 'vampires') are really all demons sent by the devil to fool the living that they are really the spirits of departed people. Personally, I never heard so much nonsense in all my life; but we should remember, that it was 'he' that stated this, not myself!
Yes, Dave, y'see, much like you, I'm supernaturally biased. There's a perspective and context for my supernatural beliefs. Whereas I have a Christian background, you have an occult/Wiccan one. Hence your use of "magic circles" and so on to conduct your "cases".
I referred to my beliefs, after you asked me about them. Criticising me for holding such views is also criticising many Christians who believe the same thing.
In view of this, Clarmonde I think you are entitled to ask: just what 'connection' he sees!?
And she can do that if she likes. I've already disclosed my views re: supernaturalism.
A 'vampire' on one hand or a 'protective entity on the other', he raves; seemingly forgetting that there could be little difference (if any) between these and the demonic entities he claims were 'sent by the devil'! The mind truely boggles! And all this from a person who persistently criticises others for using the word 'vampire'!
Yep, so I'm merely discussing clar's views and sharing my own. For some reason, you seem to have a problem with open discussion.
As to persistently criticising "others" for using the term "vampire", I think you mean I've criticised your
use of it. And there's a context for that, as well. Here's what it is: you constantly whinge that the media
gave you a vampire association, whereas it's obvious you gave it to yourself
. And not only that, you continue to exploit it. I'll also mention that you borrowed its usage from your mortal nemesis, to boot. The one who first promoted the vampire angle.
And besides, it's not like you don't
believe in vampires, you just don't believe in a certain type
. That's why you're so keen to emphasise the bloodsucking corpse
variety. Your interviews page, which I linked to for clarmonde's benefit, reveals the truth of the matter.
Take no notice Clarmonde. It is not even worthy of a reply!
Well, I'll leave that up to her. I think she's more than capable of making up her own mind and engaging in discussion, and not succumb to rants like yours.