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Jabberwock,can i ask a simple question and receive a simple anwser?do you believe Sr.Emmerich`s visions to be real?

Cheese's cry'st.

Wayward, in which religious setting did jesus start His ministry in? He did not say i am here to start a brand new religion. He did say, I am here to fulfill the Prophets...(of Judaism), Had the rabbinate of His day accepted Him as their suffering Redeeming Messiah there would have been a transition of Judaic tradition + practices that would have subsumed all of today's Catholicity into Torah-Judaic practices.

I gather ya don't know anything 'boot Judaic ritual. Everything Jesus did was Torah- Judaic, it would only mean the rabbi's would lose their job as ritual butchers, 'cuz that was the purpose of the Eucharist Sacrament. The next thing would be for scrapping the entire Talmudic system which has zero-zilch-nada to do with Torah belief. Talmud is a strictly man-made set up. Jesus made that crystal clear, He was there to institute the changes necessary after His Redemption mission to compliment the Torah.

Rabbinate saw their control of Jews go down the crapper, 'cuz that meant they had to perform the new cleaned up version of Judaism like a Catholic priest does today. That's why all the minutia Sr Emmerich describes in the Last Supper would be binding on Jews forever more. I will put it to ya this way Wayward. Once the 2nd Coming activities get sorted out and the millennial kingdom on earth where Jesus will reign as an all powerful earthly king over the remnant population still alive. If a rabbi converts to Christianity he can still be a rabbi, but under a different paradigm, yes?

The 144,000 evangelyzing Jews who convert Israel to Christianity during the Great Tribulation during AntiC's reign of terror will be the folks who will be the administrators of this future Jerusalem. Judaism as we know it will cease to exist, Judaism as jesus described in His earthly ministry is gonna be the Judaism of this millennial period, 'cuz its gonna be Christianized. For a Jew to go over to Catholicism is actually a very easy thing to do, far less cumbersome than to keep track of 616 daily injunctions built into Pharisaical Talmudic Judaism today.

BTW, Wayward ask yerself this, why would Magdalen be considered a Disciple from a rabbinic view point? Women then were never rabbi's. Why is it a commandment in Talmudism along with 615 others to say each morning when ya wake up... Thank you God for not making me a woman...

I feel quite sad to see Rev Jeff get pilloried so cruelly. When I came on the forum I let folks know I am as hard core Catholic as they come. I will never modify that stance. Rev Jeff ain't yer in yer face jam it down yer throat type of guy like meek + mild ole jake. Ya gotta see the Sermon on the Mount with eyes that see. Bein' meek + mild don't mean yer a push over. Far from it. We stand on solid ground and take what ever punishment is meted out to us.

I truly feel sorry for Lovuian's misguided soul. I pray for her daily. I hope she don't go to the grave with the take she has posted. If ya look real close at the hierarchy of Heaven, it ain't a New Agey women's lib-fem operation that is dedicated to stomping the shit out of men.

Jabberguy, I have no doubt that Jesus would have known the scriptures very well, but one thing that becomes very important here, and I mentioned it earlier, is that he would have used the Septuagint. btw, I never pilloried Rev Jeff, as a matter of fact I have never badmouthed anybody. Also,btw, You do seem to know a lot about the second coming, but how do you know your idea is correct as there are as many versions of this event as there are christian churchs? Your version doesn't even seem to fit the official view of the R.C.C.s.---Bill

No Wayward, yer not guilty of putting Rev Jeff on the spot. I should have addressed that remark to its source. Ya see Roger has a bone to pick with Rev Jeff over a situation which happened wayback when. I chided the Rev Jeff in that regard due to the subject matter content of a book revolving around Magdalen and the author's insistence she is a 2,000 year later love -child of Magdalen.

I am puzzled as t why Jesus has to conform to what others wrote 'boot Him. The Septuagint IMHO was based on the notion of current lingua franca of those times yes? it was Greek or Latin, 'cuz they were in positions of power thru previous conquests. Hebrew was still quite localized.

In regards to the 2nd Coming there are many other stigmatist ecstatics who described this event. St Francis, the 1st stigmatic, left many descriptions that are in Franciscan hands. I went to a Franciscan T.O.R college in Pa and that is how I found out. The reason Sr Emmerich's descriptions are available is 'cuz German Bishops encouraged her to relate what she experienced. Had she still been in a closed convent those writings would not have been disseminated.

Ya see, a not too bright French dude, Jerome Bonaparte shut down monasteries+ convents in areas he controlled. This unfortunate event for the Catholic Church turned out to be a fortuitous blessing for mankind. What is even more remarkable is that her eyewitness account is readily available to download. If ya notice, not all ecstatic visions of stigmatic Therese Neumann or Padre Pio are available. I wonder how long it will take the Vatican to release them.

I still wonder how AntiC is gonna use all the hype generated by the kabala-gnostics when he finally shows up. He will have to squash most of what has been promulgated if he expects his own mojo to get goin', if ya get my drift.

Nova Scotia---Bill

Hmmm Nova Scotia, ah, lox + bagels with cream cheese. what at treat - yum yum.

Now back to reality. Does that mean we have to excavate Treasure Island to find the graal there?, hehehe Ya see once upon a time when the forum was a real la la land with quite an active menagerie of caricatures, Nova Scotia had its own local presence on the forum.

Sad but true he is a forgotten presence, 'cept some of his old posts are still left lying around here somewhere. Anymore surprises to find in, on or under Nova Scotia?

yep! IMHO there is Jabberguy. This other N.S. guy, was that the one called Will? If so I have read some of his posts.---Bill

emmm, I should have put the English translation: Parsifal is asking Gurnemanz "Who is the Grail ?"

Oops!

Wayward, the guy I have in mind went by the handle of jb1717, he was the forum's resident expert etch-a-sketch specialist. he loved makin' phantasmagorical geometric patterns on a wide variety of objects.

Yeah Jake, where is Brian? Does anyone know? Shame he isn't about anymore, I miss his posts
Regards
Nic

BTW, Eginolf what kind of Austrian cheese is this ya mention?...Cheese's cry'st. I have had fondue, raclette, emmerthaler, this is a new variety to me.

Is it stored in caves like these?...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... istan.html

Is Austria gonna be a future haven for these cheese lovers?`

Nic, from what I can recall Brian made the fatuous mistake of sayin' he's gonna set up a competin' forum on yahoo and Andrew decided OK, and that was it, Brian became history.

The weird thing is there is no listing of his forum in yahoo groups, So it seems that idea was never brought to fruition. If he did set up sum fin ha has kept it a close held secret.

Thanks Jake, I think I may have been on holiday at the time. I take it that you are joking about the "Cheese's cry'st" being a real cheese, or has the penny not dropped with Eginolf's gag?
Regards
Nic

O.K., then who was Will on the Oak Island thread? He had supposedly found a body in a tube underwater between two islands, I think they were Birch and Oak, but not for sure.---Bill

Answer A:- some random loony who likes to make up stories
Answer B:- A genuine researcher working for a multi-million dollar company ( secret society ), who couldn't say anymore for fear of his life.
You decide?
Regards
Nic

Yeah Nic I know what happens when chair-mans speek anglo. I spent 17 years in chair-many.

"Mary Magdalene"-- sorry, I just thought I'd wake up Jabberguy.---Bill

Wayward, how can a mere mortal like Magdalen be elevated to the Divine + Sacred? She didn't ascend to heaven, bodily, yet. She has to wait for the 2nd Coming like the rest of us to be an integral body + soul unit again.

She definitely ain't present in a Consecrated Host either, so that eliminates that spin, yes?

Nope! I didn't say she was divine, just that she was represented as the Holy Graal. As for her being divine I don't know enough about that, but remember, as late as the 4th century many Christians didn't even consider Jesus divine. The three different trains of thought argured at the council of Nicea in 325 AD, were 1, that Jesus was only a man and not divine at all, 2, the Arian view, taught by Arius, that Jesus and God were two seperate persons although Jesus was divine and then the view that won out, 3, Jesus and God were one person. We of course know that the doctrine of Trinity came a little later.---Bill

Oh yeah, and after Constantine officially condemned Arianism, he later embraced it and died a baptized Arian.---Bill

i wonder if Constantine had to wait 'til mommy died so that he could go back to bein' a naughty boy again, hehehe. As ya well know, since John was the last Apostle to die, He would be livin' proof that his message/gospel of Jesus bein' Divine would meet all distractors. Even the 1st generation of Disciples that included Paul would know of His Divinity. That tells me the kabala-gnostic-rabbinate wasted no time tryin' to spin as many heresies as they could. In case ya forgot 'boot the rabbi I mentioned earlier on who stated very emphatically, all heresies came from this kabala-gnostic rabbinate.

The ability to infiltrate the early Church was incredibly easy. The hard thing was for them to overcome eyewitness testimony of the 1st 2 generations of Disciples. Paul's epistles were written with this concept in mind for the faithful to test all things.

I will see if the Masters Forum is still able to be accessed and if so I will download the article that rabbi wrote.

OK Wayward, I'm back I had to do a lil' bit of checkin' and I was able to access the Masters forum, but not be able to download.

This is what I did find in my searchin', just for yer edification...
http://jesus-messiah.com/html/greek-3.html
http://jesus-messiah.com/html/talmud.html
http://jesus-messiah.com/apologetics/je ... lmud2.html
http://yahwehism.com/
http://www.samliquidation.com/section16b.htm

It seems, IMHO, that Reckart is doin' what Brother Nathaniel is doin'. In cse ya haven't come across Bro Nathaniel I will dig up his website for ya as well. They both are doin' what Ziopedia is doin*. In fact ya need to read masada.com and their D I R T List to get an idea as to why the kabala-gnostc oriented folks are hated by their fella tribesmen who toe the zionist line. It ain't a pretty picture.lemme tell ya.

Tis is a sample of what ziopedia cranks out...
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/columnist.asp?ID=23

Jake, point me to where it is on Masters & i'll see if i can get it for you.