Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood

ndawe · **Posted:** 13 Dec 2009 1:52 pm

Lovely.

This, the sound, of one hand clapping...

Caledfwlch · **Joined:** 01 Dec 2009 11:08 am **Posts:** 200

damiana wrote:

I will compile a list of the bishops "friends" who all parrot the same stuff ... We are going to ignore all posts that look as though they might possibly originiate from the same source. ... As some of these paranormal situations have involved the bishop its difficult to not mention his involvement but we will try not to or only as very minor points, and all other proxy infalmmatory accusations will be ignored with the provisiso the the good bishop may speak directly to anypone of us via a private post.

When you say "we", you mean you and David Farrant presumably? Neither of you have anything to do with the bishop or his work, whether that be investigatory or otherwise. Looking for excuses not to respond openly and honestly on this forum when you overstep the line is something you both have in common.

You are not in a position to "compile a list of the bishops friends". What his supporters might say or do has nothing to do with him. People are free to speak their mind and supporting him on a forum or message board does not mean they always represent the views of the bishop. You attributing to the bishop whatever anyone else might say on a forum is irresponsible and ill-advised. He might never have heard of them or know them from Adam. Even if he did know who they are it does not mean he can or would want to control what they say. This is something you have not grasped in your thirteen-year-old vendetta against the bishop.

"Paranormal situations" are not the issue, though why you feel the need to misrepresent matters which do not concern you is quite something else. What is at issue is your constant need here and elsewhere to publish what can only be described as libellous allegations about the bishop. You attribute all manner of nonsense to him without a scrap of evidence to substantiate your claims.

I strongly advise you desist and ignore this man, as he ignores you and has done so for as long as you have been in collaboration with David Farrant.

Jerry Dandridge · **Joined:** 27 Nov 2009 5:37 pm **Posts:** 75

Caledfwlch wrote:

Even if he did know who they are it does not mean he can or would want to control what they say. This is something you have not grasped in your thirteen-year-old vendetta against the bishop.

Really? So why does 'he' go running to moderators, admin and service providers at the slightest hint of 'his' credibility being questioned?
How many times has 'he' complained on this board alone?

Unless you mean he will cry like a baby if his fantasy story is laughed at, yet shows no ethical conduct if his supporters, who all choose to remain nameless and have a very similar writing style, decide to attack others on his behalf, in which case then he will keep his mouth shut.

It's like trying to debate with a spoilt child.
An idiot spoilt child who believes in spider women who turn into vampires.
Wonderful for comedy value alone.

DavidFarrant · **Joined:** 16 Nov 2009 5:32 pm **Posts:** 458

And just to further that "Caledfwich', I am not 'in collaboration' with anybody. I do not have to be. I put my own name to my posts so people can see what I've stated or answered, and have no need to hide behind aliases as a means of being nasty to people or trying to intimadate them with threats of libel. What nonsense that all is!

It was YOURSELF who invaded Barbara's posts on Robin Hood, "Camedfwich" when you had not even been mentioned. All Barbara did was to refer you to two articles which are on public record. In turn, I summarised these by saying that an 'unnamed assistant' allegedly present at Robin Hood's grave in 1990, fell head-long into a bramble bush after encountering a 'demonic wailing red-eyed hag'. Are you saying my summary was not correct? Because you seem to have fallen very silent over this and deflect the conversation away from matters not relevant to this topic.

So, I am asking you here if this statement taken from part of that article is correct or not?
That's all. Please don't introduce other irrelevant people into this. If I am wrong, please just say so and I will then apologise - but only in that order!

David Farrant

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

Mr. Dandridge, in your second to last line you have the facts in backward order. Just telling you in my concern of your getting on the bad end of a libel suit because of it.

damiana · **Joined:** 30 Nov 2009 4:40 pm **Posts:** 239

My reply whizzed off somewhere and vanished but its mostly what David says--it wasnt he who I discussed the matter with and we agreed to as far as possibly ignore any provocative posts by the bishop's "friend."

I pointed out that on many message boards a "friend " or "supporter" of a the bishop pops up with a made up name saying exactly the same as ther "friend" before him/her and saying the bishop knows nowt about it, well where are all these "friends"??? They disappear once the thread is stopped and a new one appears on a new board, saying the same. EITHER ITS THE SAME PERSON ALL THE TIME or these "friends" decide not to bother supporting the bishop, thats all I WAS SAYING, if we made a list of them and their names it would be interesting, and it begs the question why they arent all clamouring here.

But we have decided to ignore these distractions, caldefetch, please send private messages if you want to maon we are not here to discuss the bishops over inflated ego,

damiana

Caledfwlch · **Joined:** 01 Dec 2009 11:08 am **Posts:** 200

DavidFarrant wrote:

It was YOURSELF who invaded Barbara's posts on Robin Hood, "Camedfwich" when you had not even been mentioned. All Barbara did was to refer you to two articles which are on public record. In turn, I summarised these by saying that an 'unnamed assistant' allegedly present at Robin Hood's grave in 1990, fell head-long into a bramble bush after encountering a 'demonic wailing red-eyed hag'. Are you saying my summary was not correct? Because you seem to have fallen very silent over this and deflect the conversation away from matters not relevant to this topic.

I have neither seen nor commented on your summary which, as you have it above, is not far removed from the bishop's account. This is light years from what damiana published on this forum.

damiana wrote:

At least Mr M had the courage to ride north confront the Kirklees evil, according to his s tory, though it didnt seem to do much good at the end of the day! They all ended up running away--its in his published account--but he vowed to come back one day and defeat it--instead of which, according to his blog, he claims to have "reached and understanding" with her ladyship.

The bishop's vigil was just that and was not intended to solve the problem overnight.

They did not "all end up running away". This is pure fabrication on the part of damiana.

The bishop did not "vow to come back one day and defeat it".

These are damiana's own inventions.

Caledfwlch · **Joined:** 01 Dec 2009 11:08 am **Posts:** 200

damiana wrote:

I pointed out that on many message boards a "friend " or "supporter" of a the bishop pops up with a made up name saying exactly the same as ther "friend" before him/her and saying the bishop knows nowt about it.

I wonder who that reminds me of? Let me think for a split second.

Could it be damiana popping up all over the web in support of her friend David Farrant, saying exactly the same things she's been spreading all over the place ever since she came into possession of a computer? She repeats the same old nonsense over and again. David Farrant, of course, knows nothing about it, despite the fact that much of the malice aimed at the bishop which damiana repeats can be found on his blogs, boards and in his self-published booklets.

Jerry Dandridge · **Joined:** 27 Nov 2009 5:37 pm **Posts:** 75

TCJ wrote:

Mr. Dandridge, in your second to last line you have the facts in backward order. Just telling you in my concern of your getting on the bad end of a libel suit because of it.

You're too kind sir, but I feel that the error has been logged and a lengthy legal battle will ensue as a result.

Did you know that the bishop has an 'organization' that deals with lycanthropes?
Cue endless supply of "Where wolf?" jokes.

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

Didn't know that about the Lycans. Someone might care for a vacation, the weather is just beautiful this time of year and we have much side work involving HooDoo's and one could pick up some extra money and fame.
Interesting reads on the listed links below of a similar nature to this thread but of a different culture.
http://www.southern-spirits.com/

1825:

Quote:

I have at different times of the night felt a singular sensation, such as people generally call the night-mare: I would feel her coming towards me, and endeavouring to make a noise, which I could quite plainly at first; but the nearer she approached me the more faintly I would cry out. I called to her, aunt Frankee, aunt Frankee, as plain as I could, until she got upon me and began to exercise her enchantments on me. I was then entirely speechless; making a noise like one apparently choking, or strangling.

damiana · **Joined:** 30 Nov 2009 4:40 pm **Posts:** 239

I have found the Kirklees Vampire article and the ley lines chart--my friend will be able to enhance for posting hopefully, the RHG GRAVE orgy posts are still lurking in my files, I seem to remember the subject came up around 3 years ago so they are out there in the filing system somewhere--unfortunately MSN shut down and I scrapped some of my boards, though kept some on Multiply. Not that its so important, but obviously I woldnt make up a silly story like that, I described the visit in the Bottomley Witch project and that was that. Next week I shall be contacting the counciller about the Red Monkey film--I have already contacted Red Monkey films to inform them that I now have proof of the truth--as long suspected, but there has been no reply. After all, what can they say? They ended up as cap dofffers after all. They could still release the film if they took the Kirklees bit out or fuzzed up our faces, so it must have been some warning!

Well I hope we can pursue the ley lines now I have managed to find the map, I hope that Crimson Dove will be able to help us with her expertise when it appears,

tata for now

Damiana

jabberwock · **Posted:** 14 Dec 2009 1:34 am

damiana, I have tried to follow all of the he said-she said stuff, but it all bolis down to having 1st hand knowlege of the actual location under discussion, yes?

i was taken to several spots supposedly used by Robin Hood, in the 60s, by a family who saw it all as just a series of tales to spin durin' the long dreary, drizzly winter nights of olden times. I ask in this manner 'cuz ya said this next line I have extracted....

...Lady Armytage however, had been in touch with the Bishop of Wakefield and he was the one who gave the vicar his orders. What harm could a blessing have done--sirely it begs the question why it was refused and it is pathetic that the Church buckled so wimpishly, no wonder they have no converts.

When ya say 'the Church', how zakly do ya mean that? It definitely can't be a ref to a fixed bldg, it can't be a ref to a named Bishop of any given Diocese, it can't be the Hierarchy who put that Bishop in the Diocese, so that leaves only the parishioners who make up any given religious belief, they are 'The Church', yes?

I wonder which particular sect do ya have in mind, 'cuz Sean is removed Bishop of a religious sect he called olde catholic, whatever that means. It ain't connected to the Anglicans, it ain't connected to the Vatican or Roman Catholic Rite. so now I have come full cycle and wonder, again, which specific 'The Church' do ya mean? Ya gotta remember this forum is read all over the world. I am in Sweden. We have a state church of sweden here, started like the Anglican's when some way back when King went of a plunderin' spree + stole whatever assets he could from religious groups he saw as enemies.

That ain't zakly a very Christian thing to do against another Christian, yes? and then to add to this blasphemy by usin' the status of bein' King to appoint yes men lackeys to be so-called Bishops, is what all of these State created 'churches' or heretical religious sects more appropriately, yes?

I await yer voluminous reply as to how a blend of conventional so-called Christian affiliated heretically based sects interface with a very definitely heathen-pagan vampire scenario in these circumstances. Was Robin Hood a supposed Catholic? a supposed heretic pagan? an atheist? He had a renegade Friar in his midst who is always portrayed as bein' grossly obese, which contradicts his vow of poverty, or is this just an added touch of built-in anti-religiosity?

damiana · **Joined:** 30 Nov 2009 4:40 pm **Posts:** 239

It as the Church of England, Anglican, know to be very, well, watereddown religion I would say, bothered with social stuff,flower ladies and cups of tea on the vicarage lawn, doffing cats to the local knobs, not exactly fired up with zeal against evil. I am now Roman Catholic so would not attend anything dickipoggy as theya re a lot stricter, howver, I say attend, I have never been INVOLVED--the worst I have done is go to the Spiritualist Church in the past and to be honest I thought it rather silly, all the messages and what not, did not impress.Though I did get a few rather intriguing messages, I have to confess. I have been, however, accused of being a witch and doing dickipoggy ceremonies by a certain person. Though I havent as yet located the JPL visit to the grave messages, I do have messages saved which say these things. Robin was a Roman Catholic and devoted to the Virgin Mary--he was not like that spooky Robin of Sherwood pagan Robin Hood. He was murdered by an apostate nun and priest and died without the last rites of the Church, and buied in unconsecrated ground--on the crossing of ley lines--no wonder the site is haunted1

damiana

jabberwock · **Posted:** 14 Dec 2009 1:58 pm

Howdy damiana, thanx for the timely reply. I am left in a bit of a quandry and when I checked into what it was, namely... what does dickipoggy mean, well I was surprised a native born bloke asks the same thing on this forum.

This is what I mean...-
David Farrant- Psychic investigator. - Page 11 - JREF Forum - [ Översätt den här sidan ]
40 inlägg - 12 författare - Senaste inlägget: 1 maj 2007
And what's "dickipoggy" mean? Yeah, I admit that I want to know, too! .... What does dikkipoggy mean? Firstly, I don't think this is an ...
forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=72719&page=11 - Cachad
Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter - Page 4 - JREF Forum - [ Översätt den här sidan ]
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While this does unfortunately mean that there may be no final ..... in the same boat with old Manchersterkins and his dickipoggy church and ...
forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=71335&page=4 - Cachad
The Cat's Miaow: Puddin: "I'm more popular than Jesus" - [ Översätt den här sidan ]
21 Jul 2009 ... I cant imagine why bonky had such a dickipoggy over it--well as you know I saw it before it went .... I mean, what does she really expect? ...
baldrycat.blogspot.com/.../puddin-im-more-popular-than-jesus.html - Cachad
Fortean Times Message Board :: View topic - The grave of Robin Hood - [ Översätt den här sidan ]
Posted: 15-01-2003 20:38 Post subject: dickipoggy at robn hoods grave ... You don't, by the way,mean Professor Ogrelan do you, when you say Oggie fan? he ...
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You say that discussion should proceed in a professional manner; does that mean that we're not allowed humorous ripostes? ...
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What does dikkipoggy mean? .... It had to have been the talk of nice legs in green tights and dickipoggy that did it in. ...
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Farrant: “Well, I mean it certainly wasn't human.” David Farrant wore a black mackintosh (just as he still does forty years later!) during the interview and ...
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Its orthography does not correspond to the written forms of Middle English .... Dickipoggy is a Yorkshire word and means something life hanky panky--if that ...
www.theparacast.com/forum/robin-hoods-h ... t1787.html - Cachad
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2 Dec 2009 ... Does that mean I'm descended from a famous vampire hunter? ... did support the YRHS for many years until he did a dickipoggy over d farrant, ...
www.andrewgough.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2434... - Cachad

So after havin' read thru several of these links I still have no clue. I mentioned before damiana, this is an internationally read website. The use of a local colloquialism needs to be addressed and defined, as I have attempted, as Dave Farrant attempted. Whenever I use a colloquialism I usually frame it in a manner of lampoonery so that the meaning comes thru by means of the analogy I create for it. At times the' ly-dees' on the forum objects to my at times coarse sense of humor, but the Irish gallows sense of humor in me sez, better to have a coarse sense of humor than to have no sense of humor at all.

Perhaps it'd be easier for me to just pm ya with my take on it. At least if it shocks ya a bit, ya may realize a word thrown out willy-nilly is up for interp grabs, yes?

baldrycat · **Posted:** 14 Dec 2009 2:59 pm

Actually the word "dickipoggy" showing up on a Manchester/Farrant forum argument signals the beginning of the end of the thread - not unlike the Seven Signs of The Apocalypse...

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

Damiana, just quote Baldrycat, "I'm not telling!"

damiana · **Joined:** 30 Nov 2009 4:40 pm **Posts:** 239

It can man anything you want it to, but as a clue the whole story of the Highgate and Kirklees Vampire is "dickipoggy"---there is a dickipoggy church and a dickipoggy bishop, there is soemthing dickipoggy going on at Kirklees and a certain person throws a dickipoggy tantrum at the slightest thing etc etc,

damiana

jabberwock · **Posted:** 14 Dec 2009 7:37 pm

damiana, does the conventional phrase in acronym form FUBAR or FUBAB cover all of these possibilities? If so then I get yer drift.

I wasn't 'boot to ask what, where or how yer supposed to use the dicki portion of that word, hehehe

Jerry Dandridge · **Joined:** 27 Nov 2009 5:37 pm **Posts:** 75

I'm not a fan of dikkipoggy. Rubbish word.

FUBAR however, is one I'm very familiar with along with SNAFU.

damiana · **Joined:** 30 Nov 2009 4:40 pm **Posts:** 239

Tickertiboo, you tomnoddys

baldrycat · **Posted:** 14 Dec 2009 9:17 pm

damiana wrote:

Tickertiboo, you tomnoddys

Translation: "It's all good, you idiots"

crimson_dove · **Joined:** 25 Jul 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1468

damiana wrote:

I have found the Kirklees Vampire article and the ley lines chart--my friend will be able to enhance for posting hopefully, the RHG GRAVE orgy posts are still lurking in my files, I seem to remember the subject came up around 3 years ago so they are out there in the filing system somewhere--unfortunately MSN shut down and I scrapped some of my boards, though kept some on Multiply. Not that its so important, but obviously I woldnt make up a silly story like that, I described the visit in the Bottomley Witch project and that was that. Next week I shall be contacting the counciller about the Red Monkey film--I have already contacted Red Monkey films to inform them that I now have proof of the truth--as long suspected, but there has been no reply. After all, what can they say? They ended up as cap dofffers after all. They could still release the film if they took the Kirklees bit out or fuzzed up our faces, so it must have been some warning!

Well I hope we can pursue the ley lines now I have managed to find the map, I hope that Crimson Dove will be able to help us with her expertise when it appears,

tata for now

Damiana

damiana, my name is paula...i sign my name as such always.

i do Not have expertise in ley lines...none. if you read my posts, i am just beginning my research into this topic.
sorry to disappoint...

Pilrig · **Posted:** 15 Dec 2009 12:31 am

damiana wrote:

It as the Church of England, Anglican, know to be very, well, watereddown religion I would say, bothered with social stuff,flower ladies and cups of tea on the vicarage lawn, doffing cats to the local knobs, not exactly fired up with zeal against evil. I am now Roman Catholic so would not attend anything dickipoggy as theya re a lot stricter, howver, I say attend, I have never been INVOLVED--the worst I have done is go to the Spiritualist Church in the past and to be honest I thought it rather silly, all the messages and what not, did not impress.Though I did get a few rather intriguing messages, I have to confess. I have been, however, accused of being a witch and doing dickipoggy ceremonies by a certain person. Though I havent as yet located the JPL visit to the grave messages, I do have messages saved which say these things. Robin was a Roman Catholic and devoted to the Virgin Mary--he was not like that spooky Robin of Sherwood pagan Robin Hood. He was murdered by an apostate nun and priest and died without the last rites of the Church, and buied in unconsecrated ground--on the crossing of ley lines--no wonder the site is haunted1

damiana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w7ALMIUy74

jabberwock · **Posted:** 15 Dec 2009 1:05 am

....Buried on the crossing of ley lines,... man ya can't get it more satanic than that, IMHO, yes? BTW Pilrig I guess ya may have seen these as well but didn't sample them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSXM3Zg0 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KemqLQgH ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5v5vtPlx4&feature=fvw

I noticed this aspect of the Robin saga has been thoroughly exploited, but his actual demise is still shrouded in mystery, how come?

richard.webster · **Posted:** 15 Dec 2009 8:15 am

TCJ wrote:

"In Savoy in 1477 a witch named Antoine Rose was brought to trial. She had told a neighbour that she badly needed money, so the friend took her to a sabbath where she was persuaded to do homage to the Devil… They knew him by the name of Robinet.
This is one of the many instances in which witches stated that the Devil was spoken of by them as Robin, or some form of that name.
Dame Alice Kyteler called him Robin Artisan, the Somerset witches called the chief of their coven Robin; and Puck, a deity of the Little People, was also know as Robin Goodfellow. Professor Murray remarks on the connection between the latter and Robin Hood, and points out that the legends regarding Robin Hood associate him with many places far removed from Sherwood Forest - for instance, Scotland."

The Devil and all his works - Dennis Wheatley

I also have this book - it's a very useful resource - and I thought it was worth re-printing the rest of the passage on Robin Hood that TCJ has quoted above.

Quote:

It will be noted that his band numbered twelve men, which, with himself, made up a coven; also that he was a declared enemy of the Church and took special delight in robbing rich abbots and priors for the benefit of the poor. Tales of his doings having arisen in so many localities, and the date of their origins differing greatly, might be accounted for if his name was an abbreviation of Robin with the Hood, as in witch trials the Devil is often described as wearing a hood, and the Little People always wore hoods from which they were most averse ever to be parted, evidently attaching some magical significance to them.

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