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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 2:50 pm 
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Jenny wrote:
Which of the bishop's books contains a reference to Kirklees - I might try and get hold of a copy.


The Highgate Vampire (1991 edition) refers to the Kirklees phenomenon, but it is The Vampire Hunter's Handbook (pub. 1997) which devotes an entire chapter to what many were by then describing as the Kirklees Vampire.

http://www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/Vampire%20Hunter's%20Handbook.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 3:01 pm 
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Caledfwlch wrote:
Magazines and newspapers are notorious for condensing, paraphrasing and inventing quotes to suit their purpose.


I never thought of it that way, but you have a point there. I understand that numerous bizarre stories about David Farrant have appeared in the press. I wonder if any of them were similarly inaccurate?

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 3:46 pm 
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I am sure if the editor of Fate magaizine had got anything wrong he would have got a flea in his ear from the bishop straight away--but it was Orbis magazine actually, with a picture of the bish waving his cross---the bish would have been down on em like a ton of bricks for copyright and whatnot if it wasnt "right"."

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 3:53 pm 
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Their lengthy ritual, following an arduous secret trek to the grave last night, was based on ancient esoteric tradition known only to a few, and was completely successful in that the powers of darkness at the grave have now been fully dispersed.


Wondering here Damiana if that still holds true. Has all remained "quiet"?

[Edit to add: Yes very gripping and thanks for getting that in, the best accumulation of witnessing to be found that I can tell.]


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 5:10 pm 
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To be honest I dont know--presumably when that was written it
had"been quiet." But the secret police is still at their antics
and all the strategies to keep the place out of public view so I can only assume that there may still be dickipoggy goings on there on the blck ley line and the "exorcism" didny fully work--after all the first result was the banning of the Red Monkey film!

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 6:08 pm 
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very new to this topic...

black ley lines...
geopathology...
anyone?
please...

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 6:25 pm 
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Valid and seemingly very important questions and a mystery to TCJ.


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 7:04 pm 
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well tcj...
i am always thinking and of course, reading this forum and stuff :-)

thinking of mothman...
seen on another thread...

now researching these lines and notice damiana's post above...

had to ask...

happy holy days to you and to yours and to all here!

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 7:15 pm 
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Crimson Dove, I think you will find this topic 'your cup of tea'. :wink:
I'm at my limits on it now and if you missed it, for a good start here is Damiana's excellent web page again.
http://www.robinhoodyorkshire.co.uk/

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 7:56 pm 
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TCJ wrote:
Crimson Dove, I think you will find this topic 'your cup of tea'. :wink:
I'm at my limits on it now and if you missed it, for a good start here is Damiana's excellent web page again.
http://www.robinhoodyorkshire.co.uk/

Holiday greets and blessings to you and yours too.


my "cup to tea"... really?
hmmm...
i drink coffee...
:-(

will look into the above site though...
maybe will make me a tea drinker! ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 8:18 pm 
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:lol: I was grasping for a phrase meaning "expertise" and it's interesting suddenly seeing you here since I've seen very little so far on the reported Kirklees Ley lines out on the web. I posted a photo last night as my own query in a way.

You'll notice Damiana mentioning she's happy to privately give particulars on this touchy subject.

No evening coffee for me lately. Don't need it on this spookery! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2009 10:14 pm 
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this quote puzzles me for several reasons...Their lengthy ritual, following an arduous secret trek to the grave last night, was based on ancient esoteric tradition known only to a few, and was completely successful in that the powers of darkness at the grave have now been fully dispersed.

A dead body is just that, so why would a demonic presence be found hovering around a cadaver? Is that corpse supposed to become a zombie of sorts? is it gonna turn into a werewolf? is it gonna choose of its own deadened volition to become a vampire?

Its when these excursions into the aether zone start, the looney toon brigade go into fantasmagorica overdrive. These tales make for great sci-fi, ala Steven King, Edgar Allan Poe, Philip K Dick, but to ascribe an actual presence the way Ancients of Olde did with their pantheons is really stretchin' it, yes? I mean way back when the powers that be did it to keep the minions amused and controlled, nothin' new in that regard, the same thing is goin' on in Copenhagen at the hot air exchange.

New bogeymen are created all the time, this time its human flatus(farts) that is the gold standard, it seems. Who will be the protagonist who has to endure these farts for the well-being of humanity, like myth heroes of past, type Hercules.

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
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I dont know what the ritual consisted of, but it was well meant and after all the Church had been asked many many times to perfom a blessing and been forbidden, both Anglican and Catholic. In view of the situation--as in summary posted to private posters on request, SOMETHING had to be done--David and Gareth had the guts to go and do it, unlike the pussyfooting, cap doffing clergy! Nothing evil like black magic was done, as our holier-than-thou friend is always claiming--he even accused me of performing a dickipoggy ceremony with John Pope de Loclksley of the London Robin Hood Club just because I took him to the grave that year it was raining and he lit a candle which went out. Our eminent friend, the vampire hunting holy man of HIGHGATE, told everyone that I said the Lords prayer backwards--I ask you, was there listening?Had he bugged the grave? Anyhow I would have to write it down an learn how to say it backwards, silly man, even if I WAS GOING TO WHICH OF COURSE I wasnt.

There have been many many paranormal reports and strane reports that all, but no one mentioned vampires toll he did. We thought it wa the evil prioress and her love the convent priest Red Roger of Doncaster who were causing the phenomene.

Damiana


ps by the way this was what Red Monkey filmed, though it could have been "performed" with props afterwards then they woul not have had to go asking"permission" to release it---just for a ten minute slot, and wasting everyone's time and goodwill. They were told if they took it to Kirklees to milady and the chief cap-doffer, it would end up in the bin---I cant imagine why they did such an idiotic thing!


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 11 Dec 2009 3:52 pm 
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Okay...but I still wanna know...what came first...Robin Hood the person? or Robin Hood the festival?

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 11 Dec 2009 4:45 pm 
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The person otherwise they would not have been able to call it the Robin Hood festival if there was not a person first

hope this is helpful


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
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damiana wrote:
Nothing evil like black magic was done, as our holier-than-thou friend is always claiming--he even accused me of performing a dickipoggy ceremony with John Pope de Loclksley of the London Robin Hood Club just because I took him to the grave that year it was raining and he lit a candle which went out. Our eminent friend, the vampire hunting holy man of HIGHGATE, told everyone that I said the Lords prayer backwards--I ask you, was there listening?Had he bugged the grave? Anyhow I would have to write it down an learn how to say it backwards, silly man, even if I WAS GOING TO WHICH OF COURSE I wasnt.


These silly fabrications do your case no good at all, damiana, because you know, as does anyone who has followed these matters, that the bishop said none of the things you attribute to him. You obviously have your own reasons for inventing these ridiculous stories but in doing so you leave yourself open to ridicule and possibly a libel suit.

When you make such accusations you need to provide evidence. A link, for example, to where such a thing is allegedly stated. False allegations regarding the bishop - who you only know through accidental contact almost a quarter of a century ago (I've read the facts on his research society's forums) - make you look hopelessly unreliable and malicious.

If you are going to accuse someone of something defamatory you really need to back it up before publishing it on the web.


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
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It is nota fabrication but it may take me a while to find the posts , and its not the only one. Anyway please dont mess up this board with your interference into what this fella did or didnt say, after all how can you posibly know? Send me a private e mail if you are that bothered about your holy chum

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
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Roger wrote:
I particularly like the part where ol' Jack Straw mentions that the libel law helps despots, although he mde no mention of Bishops. :lol:



I had to chuckle at that myself.


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 11 Dec 2009 6:54 pm 
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Roger beat me to it again.
A dated story below but telling of why reforms are needed to curb expensive frivolities. In the world of fame it's all part of the game, get used to it or get out.
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The increase could also be due to Hollywood stars increasingly choosing to sue in Britain, where libel laws are more favourable than in the US.
"It is easier for US-based celebrities to sue for defamation in the English courts than in their own country, as our libel laws are much more favourable to claimants," Mr Benaim said. "For instance, in the UK you do not have to prove malice, as you do in America.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article699229.ece


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
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http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/Ill-healt ... hic_Stress).html

i was thinking more along these lines...

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
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and this...
http://www.crystalinks.com/grids.html

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 11 Dec 2009 7:03 pm 
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Thanks for getting us back on track!

A tricky first link Madame...maybe this will work.
http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/Ill-health_%28Geopathic_Stress%29.html


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
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i like the second link...better...
thanks for correcting the first :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
PostPosted: 11 Dec 2009 7:17 pm 
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And thanks once again for opening another door for me...as usual. :wink:
Wonderful links Crimson Dove.


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 Post subject: Re: Visions and Vampires - and Robin Hood
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And here we go...from Damiana;

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Robinhood Village was, before 1860, a cluster of buildings surrounding a colliery, quarry and bridge. According to legend, Robin Hood of Wakefield and a gang of poachers used to meet at a lonely well on the moor of Rothwell Hay. A well bearing the inscription "Robin Hood" was found by stone quarriers in 1842, but it is now buried in the disused quarry. A local legend says that Robin was a butcher of Wakefield and that one night Robin and his friends met near the royal hunting park of Rothwell Hay. They were captured and later joined the army of Thomas of Lancaster against Edward II, becoming outlaws after the Earl's defeat at Boroughbridge in 1322.

http://www.britannia.com/tours/rhood/rhvillage.html

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There is also Robin Hood's Well, a small monument (apparently designed by John Vanbrugh) lying right next to the A1 between the Red House junction and Barnsdale Bar; in between the villages of Skelbrooke and Burghwallis. It was however moved around 1960 when the junction was being constructed, so the real well is now beneath the A1.

Yet another well - Little John's Well - lies to the west of Hampole, between Wrangbrook and Skelbrooke (but closer to the latter). It is also called Little John's Cave. Situated by the A638, to the west of Barnsdale, it was once engraved with the outlaws' name but is now derelict.

South of Barnsdale Bar, the A1 follows the old Roman Road of Ermine Street - north of Barnsdale Bar the A639 follows the course of the Roman Road more closely whilst the A1 follows a more recent route. A number of villages and geological features along this route are mentioned in the early ballads of Robin Hood as being places the outlaw would visit.

Hanging Wood, also known as Highfields Wood, which lies between Hampole and Highfields, a small stream known as Robin Hood's stream springs from underneath the Roman Road and runs into the Pick burn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnsdale


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