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Well, it's really hard to respond to someone who keeps changing his posts.

I have changed the essence on none of my posts; merely enlarged the one to which you refer.

It is equally difficult to discuss anything when the other person avoids answering questions and only wants to ask them.

Reverend Sean


I'm in total agreement

The Celibacy law needs to go...making it optional is best
I did see that the pope is allowing married Anglican priests into the Catholic Church which shows they recognize that married priests can be tolerated

I would not be surprised if Jesus was married

OK Sean here's the deal. Tom D is upset with me 'cuz I call his bluff at every turn. If he can't badger folk he gets even more vitriolic, just look at this out burst....

[quote="+Seán ManchesterIf you feel as you clearly do about Christians not within the Roman fold, why feel so obliged to give such offence and insult? If this is your "brand" of Irish Catholicism I am thankful it is not mine. That notwithstanding, I still know and have known throughout my life a great many Irish Roman Catholics and none have behaved in the unChristian manner you are evincing on this forum. Many have invited me to their Church where I have been received with immense warmth.

[/quote]
Dear Bishop,
You will forgive me, I hope, for commenting on the above.

There are things that you must understand about Ol' Jake when reading his posts.
He's an aged nearly invalid US citizen in self imposed exile in Sweden. He's not actually Irish at all. He's a 'wannabee Oirish' who has, like so many, anteceedents from that fine country and think it much more glamourous than his own sad reality.
You will note that, from the snowstorm of comment that he posts across the forum that time weighs heavy on him.
His increasing frailty and invalidity have brought the stark reality of his rapidly approaching demise into painful focus. Hence the rabid fevour with which he has assumed the mantle of the forums only 'Real Catholic', and 'protector of what he sees as the reputation of The RCC.

His stock in trade is gratuitous, personal offence which the medication he takes makes him believe is an excuse for humour. The only desired result is to get a reaction from the target.
Engaging in what he thinks is banter will give him the 'Craic' and divert, momentarily, his attention from the dire reality he faces.
Most of us have learned to ignore him and his insults because, in sorrow, we appreciate that he cannot help it. He's merely railing at the world rather like King Lear on the Heath.

There are times when a once sharp mind brakes through the fog as a sad and poignant reminder of a formerly vital and resourceful Medic.
I'm sure that, as a man of the Cloth you can appreciate his predicament and draw a veil over the rather gauche and embarassing spectacle that it is. He affects that kind of patois only as an harmless posturing.
His personal challenges are great so dont forget to include him in your prayers.
However, like many religious bigots he wont thank you for it.

Kind Regards,
TD

He made a few inaccurate statements that thank goodness my Irish dad is no longer alive otherwise I'd fear for Tom's ability to do anything of a mechanical nature, for the rest of his life.

My interest in probity is 1st to deflate over-infated ego's like Tom D so that he can be brought back into the front room without sawing away half of the wall by the doorway. Ya see Tom has a super inflated image he bloats and feels insecure when his security blanket is taken away, poor widdle tomsy-womsy.

The bit 'boot medication is a real hoot. I don't indulge in alcohol, I don't smoke, I avoid fatty foods, I don't eat large portions of anything. I am very moderate in most aspects of life. Let's see, 2-3 cups of coffee spread out over a day, 2 glasses of fruit based beverages at meal time, and no absolutely no drugs, no meds of any sort.

Then we get to his debasement of the power of prayer. I pray daily as is my habit. My belief structure tells me all souls are not damned 'til they are judged 'pon their demise. I pray for the salvation of everybody, that's why prayer has been instituted. Its not for personal gain. Tom sees no use for prayer. so he belittles it, yet he benefits from all prayers intended for salvation.

Methinks Tom should ransack his own soul prior to castigatin' anybody else's prayers. Then we get to his portrayal of me bein' a dodderin' on the way out of existence entity. Sad to upset yer road kill cart Tom, but my Dad's side of the family all went in their upper 80's, my dad made in to 90, so tat means sad but true Tom, ya gotta put up with me for the next 20+ years.

Be so kind a post a pre-mortem of the time of yer expected demise so that I can create a paean for ya. Somethin' everybody can paean. Ya see Sean, Tom has, so the rumour mil sez an eatery some where in London. I take for granted Tom bein' the intrepid man 'boot town brought his own game to the table, in the form of road kill, for his eatery. He is wont to get distracted by his scullery schtick, 'cuz it oft times shows up in his posts. Ya see, he like to pose as an effite elite, with all the illusory delusions he can muster up. Just read thru his posts and ya can see how affectated his cramped writing style gets

What Tom calls insults are my mirroring of what he projects. Its nutin' new, its used in psych clinics to help affected patients like Tom to experience in context what they espouse. Tom thinks sarcasm is the only way to converse so I mirror his approach.

Here is my query to ya Sean. I wanna hear ya live, in yer Church thunderin' away, I take it yer into good olde fashioned fire + brimstone oratory in yer sermons, as I detect from yer posting style of yer Biblic cites. My problem is I have yet to find yer Diocese listed anywhere on the 'Net. I can't find a local Glastonbury congregation ya conduct yer services at. I assume if yer a bishop, ya got all the trappin's like a Chancery, a vicar-parson or whatever ya call the person who heads that function, with their office hours, their biz phone.

Its this aspect that has me befuddled. I expected to encounter an edifice on par with Winchester Cathedral to be yer basilica. I see no photo's taken of it by any body, any where on the 'Net. There are folks on this forum who have been to Glastonbury and not a single mention 'boot Sean's place, how come?

BTW, Swedish Bishops, mostly the females wear yer style of pink shirt. Its seems to be a feminine touch thing here that has been commented on in Swedish newspapers. These gals say in effect we ain't dowdy old men we are wimmen folk and wanna flaunt it. I guess vanity can infiltrate any profession these days.

Hmmmmm!
You see what I mean?
In his own reality he's practically a Hermit. I'm sure the papers for canonisation are already being prepared in Rome. All topped off with the piety of a tele- Evangelist.
Kinda sad really. There is probably a name for it somewhere.
TD.

The colour is known ecclesiastically as Roman Pink and is really purple. The biretta and cassock seen above are purple. Clerical shirts of the Roman Pink hue are normally worn by all Bishops in the Anglican Communion and a wide variety of independent Catholic Bishops. The same colour is nevertheless worn on ecclesial items other than the shirt by Roman Catholic prelates.

I realise this is an internet forum and that we are attempting to hold a conversation on it, but you seem only interested in proffering provocative questions and not responding when simple and straightforward questions flow in the opposite direction.

It's rather lame to allege I'm being hostile in order to not answer. I could say with a certain amount justification the same of you, but any hostility you have evinced has not prevented me from dealing with what you ask.

I merely wish to establish where you are coming from, what you believe and perhaps don't believe. Is that so difficult? Why would you want to hide something like that? After all, you are totally anonymous.

I thought the colour was Amaranth.

GRINLeks wrote:

How can you promise places on the H/I team Alan? I know you guys are trying to take ove the game but until you have then I dont see how you can do that?
I was thinking about playing this year but am stuck in the middle with you lot saying you are the New SSL and the official SLL saying they are still the National Governing Body and that you guys have no authority to be offering places on the Main Tour or H/Is etc.

Welcome GRINleks!
Thats either the most sophisticated piece of spam we've seen for a while or you're on the wrong forum !
Whichever!
Jake, you've got competition!
TD

I thought Amaranth was Amaranthus caudatus, or pigweed, a cosmopolitan genus of herbs.

I thought the title of this thread was, "17 Questions: Sean Manchester" NOT "17 Questions: Serendipity"


Since when was asking about the use of salt in ritual provocative?



What I believe is sacred to me...and not meant for the general public. I do not wear my beliefs as a uniform, nor is my belief my life's vocation; religion is NOT my job. You may, if I decide, learn of my beliefs through discussion. I have not claimed to speak for all Christians everywhere....you have. Therefore, since you are speaking for so many people, your beliefs are far more important.

Sir, you have changed your posts and accused me of being hostile and provocative, which up til now, I feel I have treated you no different than any other poster/posts on this forum. I don't know whether to ignore you or pick up the guantlet that has been flung my way.

Either way, I can't do it now...I have things I must get done this morning.

Dear Bishop,

Can you explain what the power of Sulphur is in warding off evil? If I recall correctly you stood in a buring circle of Sulphur when faced with the vampire spider?
Garlic contains lots of sulphur compounds, perhaps that's the connection?

Thanks,

Jen
xxx.

I have answered the seventeen questions set by Andrew Gough and that is what the title of this thread surely refers to.

I did not ask you seventeen questions.

I merely enquired as where you are coming from.

Are you Christian, something else, or do you hold no belief in the supernatural whatsoever?

It is difficult to tell from what you have so far imparted in asking questions of myself.

I cannot help but note that you joined this forum the day after I did and that your posts have concentrated exclusively on 17 Questions: Sean Manchester and The Highgate Vampire.

Is this pure coincidence?

Neither sulphur nor garlic possesses "power" as such.

The ony questions I have asked of you are:



My beliefs shouldn't have anything to do with the answer...and why would you care what I believe anyway? What difference could it possibly make?

If you must know, I'm a conservative southerner.

The color amaranth represents immortality in Western civilization because the name is derived from the name in Greek mythology of a flower that was believed to never die that grew in the abode of the Greek gods on Mount Olympus.

Amaranthine means something that is perceived to be everlasting...this is the colour you are wearing Bishop.

How very appropriate the colour Amaranth proves to be for episcopal attire.

Thank you for offering this explanation of its mythological origin.

Has being conservative now become a belief? I was obviously referring to religious and spiritual beliefs.

Quite why you are so coy about something I would have thought, as a Southern conservative, you would be glad to shout from the rooftops is quite beyond me.

What I would like to explain is that I am not here to continue the interview begun by Andrew Gough on 17 Questions. That is for you to discuss among yourselves.

I arrived on this forum quintessentially to correct serious error being posted about me.

We can dream -- but those sort of people always manage to find a convenient "Get out of jail free" card.
Bringing it back to religion, I think the Religious Right, along with the Moral Majority whom they succeeded, have done immeasurable harm to the United States and hence to the world. And I'm not talking about good ole-fashioned conservative Southern Baptists.

As already stated, I did not come here to continue the interview on 17 Questions. Andrew Gough will attest how very reluctant I was to participate in his request for reasons which are now manifest on this forum. I perceived the purpose of this thread topic being an opportunity to iron out any misconceptions which might arise in the minds of some who read 17 Questions and to allow me to address extant error concerning myself on this forum.

I do not seek confrontation and take no pleasure in having false allegations levelled at me; allegations that are sometimes accompanied by defamatory abuse by certain people. There are clearly a small number of active members who thrive on such negative behaviour. This holds absolutely no interest for me and I shall therefore desist from providing stimulation for its continuance.

When I finally succumbed to Andrew Gough's original request it was not without an agreement being reached which spirit I feel has now been sufficiently compromised for me to extricate myself from the situation.



† The Right Reverend † Seán Manchester †

One must be courteous

and allow for a open discussion

and being FAIR

of which Roger is learning
Yes politely give him the links and smile

Lets not gang up on a new member here

It is written in the darkest and rarest of grimoires that under the amorphous glow of a lunar eclipse a virulent Pekingese works wonders.

But this is not for the uninitiated by any means.