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 Post subject: Coffer Dam query
PostPosted: 29 Jul 2007 5:09 pm 
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Does anyone have any factual information regarding the construction of the coffer dam serving the the flood tunnels? I am particularly interested in any structural detail including materials, dimensions, de-watering systems, etc. Most of the material I have discovered in books/internet is recycled and doesn't deal with the practical applications involved.


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PostPosted: 30 Jul 2007 11:35 am 
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Considering that the original coffer dam has been completely gone for several centuries, not surprisingly, no. They didn't leave the dam in place, obviiously (or the flood tunnels wouldn't work), and they didn't leave any written accounts of how it was built or designed. How, then, could anyone know anything about it?
Pretty much explains why you haven't been able to find that information anywhere. If you limit your searches to things that have a realistic chance of being known by someone on Earth, you will be more likely to find what you are looking for.
The only thing ever found in Smith's Cove, aside from the flood tunnel feeder system, was a U shaped configuration of logs with some Roman numerals on them. Maybe they were part of the dam, maybe something else.


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 Post subject: Damn
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2007 5:02 pm 
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c2518,

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Does anyone have any factual information regarding the construction of the coffer dam serving the the flood tunnels?


Would you be talking about the originators coffer dam, or any one of the three that have been built on Oak Island since 1795?

There is reason to believe, although it is certainly not been proven, that they may have found a dam made of wood, possibly used by the originators, to hold back the waters so a flood tunnel could be built. It is most commonly referred to as the "U" Shapes Log Structure and has been written about by many authors including D'Arcy O'Connor, one of Oak Island's premier authors.

Now, unless I miss my guess, we can expect some terribly nasty comments from the rogues gallery.

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 Post subject: Not a Dam at all.
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2007 10:11 pm 
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Hi c2518, I am not a writer but a researcher in Oak Island who can act as a consultant to a treasure hunter or be a treasure hunter myself.

My website is not like any other on the internet because it offers alturnative explanations for what are usually presented as illogical theories portrayed as fact in rehashed Oak Island books etc, I call my theories Oak Island Revelations.

In my view the original semi circle of rocks in Smiths Cove were not a Coffer Dam at all but was in fact a solid Buffer to decrease the full force of the powerful westerly waves filled with driven sand that would otherwise wreck or clog up the Filter Drain inlet.

Cerris

www.oakislandrevelations.com Check out my website and lower the tiny anchors to read the text.


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 Post subject: Re: Damn
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2007 1:15 am 
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Tank04 wrote:
It is most commonly referred to as the "U" Shapes Log Structure and has been written about by many authors including D'Arcy O'Connor, one of Oak Island's premier authors.

Now, unless I miss my guess, we can expect some terribly nasty comments from the rogues gallery.


About what, you thinking that O'Connor is a "premier Oak Island author"? You can have whatever opinion you want. It might not be the same as mine, of course. What I'm curious about is how O'Connor intends to keep writing new Oak Island books when he rejects every new discovery made by people like me. How many times can he keep writing the same book? I guess he didn't think very far ahead because there really ARE no new Oak Island discoveries that stand up to any kind of scrutiny other than the ones I'm personally responsible for, and I sure won't be letting him use any of MY material after he so wisely insulted me and my discoveries on this public forum. Thus ends the illustrious career of the "premium Oak Island author", which simply peters out for lack of new material.


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 Post subject: Roman Numerals
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2007 5:46 pm 
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"The only thing ever found in Smith's Cove, aside from the flood tunnel feeder system, was a U shaped configuration of logs with some Roman numerals on them. Maybe they were part of the dam, maybe something else."

I would like to know if there are any photos available please.

Sheila in France


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 Post subject: Re: Damn
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2007 6:58 pm 
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jb1717 wrote:
[... there really ARE no new Oak Island discoveries that stand up to any kind of scrutiny other than the ones I'm personally responsible for



Hey Cerris and Keith:

You guys gonna take that lying down?

D'Arcy


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PostPosted: 31 Jul 2007 7:06 pm 
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Sheila:

You will find answers to most of your questions (as well as photos) about Smith's Cove, the coffer dam, and the notched logs by going to www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk and then using their topic search engine.

D'Arcy


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 Post subject: Re: Damn
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2007 11:51 pm 
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D'Arcy wrote:
jb1717 wrote:
[... there really ARE no new Oak Island discoveries that stand up to any kind of scrutiny other than the ones I'm personally responsible for



Hey Cerris and Keith:

You guys gonna take that lying down?

D'Arcy


They don't have any Oak Island related discoveries. Keith has Birch Island discoveries and Cerris has a theory about a treasure being on Nolan's property. My material is quite different. I explain the precise positions of the Oak Island Cross boulders, what the Cross means and who placed it there. I also show that the Oak Island Cross figure is contained in a 1618 Rosicrucian print, which just happens to also contain a double star figure which just happens to match the Mahone Bay geography and just happens to coordinate perfectly with the Oak Island treasure pit site. This, then, explains who constructed both the Oak Island Cross and the Oak Island treasure pit. That, Mr. Genius O'Connor, solves the Oak Island mystery, ie; the very subject you are supposedly investigating. Makes sense that you should ignore all that, huh? Sure, if you are a very INCOMPETENT Oak Island investigator, which you apparently are.


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PostPosted: 01 Aug 2007 2:31 am 
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I am certain after reading the responses to his first post, c2518 will probably refrain from posting again in this forum.
Especially jb1717's reaction: "If you limit your searches to things that have a realistic chance of being known by someone on Earth, you will be more likely to find what you are looking for."
What a nice way to welcome new members to this forum. I am embarrassed for you. :oops:
At least some of the other posts tried to provide information for c2518.

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PostPosted: 01 Aug 2007 2:43 am 
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Who the hell asked you to critique other peoples' posts, MacDumb?


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PostPosted: 01 Aug 2007 3:50 am 
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Yeah, Macteague. jb1717 makes an excellent point. This forum (as no doubt c2518 has discovered) is not for critiquing anyone's opinions or theories on the Oak Island enigma, or for getting answers to pertinent questions. For that, one would have to go to www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk

This particular forum is dedicated only to those (three) who have THE ANSWER. (The only problem being that Brian, Cerris and Keith each have different irrefutable answers).

D'Arcy


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PostPosted: 01 Aug 2007 6:50 am 
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calm down children, :D I am not really interested in massaging anyone's ego here but am interested in learning and formulating my own theory on the engineering facets to the Oak Island mystery. Personnally I don't give a damn if there is/was/will be a treasure, what astounds me is the effort put into constructing something which has effectively amused many people for centuries. my problem to date is that there is an enormous mishmash of of recycled information out there, most appears to be factually debatable, I have yet to find any primary recorded supported evidence or secondary/tertiary research which is based on checkable sources and facts. Most of what seems to be available is either esoteric nonsense/psychobabble or wishful thinking. Theories expounded by others are always interesting but until proven they will remain just theories. Does anyone have a Fact/Evidence that may be relevant to the structural elements associated with the Pit and Tunnels?


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PostPosted: 01 Aug 2007 1:09 pm 
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D'Arcy wrote:
Yeah, Macteague. jb1717 makes an excellent point. This forum (as no doubt c2518 has discovered) is not for critiquing anyone's opinions or theories on the Oak Island enigma, or for getting answers to pertinent questions. For that, one would have to go to www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk

This particular forum is dedicated only to those (three) who have THE ANSWER. (The only problem being that Brian, Cerris and Keith each have different irrefutable answers).

D'Arcy


Oh sure, as long as the questions don't relate to what the solution to the Oak Island mystery is because, trust me, NOBODY on that other forum has the slightest clue. Now if you want to have some idle chit chat about any OTHER subject, that would be the place to go. Better yet, simply buy Reginald Harris' and Bill Crooker's Oak Island books and get the exact same information without the aggravation of dealing with miscreants.
O'Connor is wrong, only I have the answer and definitely not Keith or Cerris. Too bad O'Connor is to stupid to tell the difference. In fact, O'Connor is so stupid that he thinks Keith is still a member of this forum, or maybe he just likes to advertise his name because he is the president of the Keith fan club. Actually, although Andrew told me he banned Ranville, I just checked the members list and Crusader is still on it. He forgot to ban Keith's alias.


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 Post subject: Children
PostPosted: 02 Aug 2007 11:07 am 
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c2518,

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Theories expounded by others are always interesting but until proven they will remain just theories. Does anyone have a Fact/Evidence that may be relevant to the structural elements associated with the Pit and Tunnels?


There is evidence and much of it is contained in the many books written about Oak Island. As you can clearly see, this is not the place to discuss this. Theer is also some material that has not made it to print yet either.

The forum you have been directed to not only filters out this "childish" nonsense, but we have people there who are not always nodding their heads in agreement all the time either. We do in fact have a sceptical element there (thank heavens) and can logically discuss this without the silliness.

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 Post subject: Re: Children
PostPosted: 02 Aug 2007 12:28 pm 
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Tank04 wrote:
c2518,

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Theories expounded by others are always interesting but until proven they will remain just theories. Does anyone have a Fact/Evidence that may be relevant to the structural elements associated with the Pit and Tunnels?


There is evidence and much of it is contained in the many books written about Oak Island. As you can clearly see, this is not the place to discuss this. Theer is also some material that has not made it to print yet either.

The forum you have been directed to not only filters out this "childish" nonsense, but we have people there who are not always nodding their heads in agreement all the time either. We do in fact have a sceptical element there (thank heavens) and can logically discuss this without the silliness.


Yes, by all means go to the other forum to discuss the flood tunnels structural elements because nobody here cares and everybody there have nothing better to discuss, like the solution to the mystery, so they'll be delighted to discuss something else, like flood tunnels. All I care about flood tunnels is that they are safeguards to the treasure pit. I don't care exactly what they look like or whatever. Why should I? Now go to Tank's favorite forum where they "filter out" anything vaguely related to an actual solution. If a nut case like N4N posts a bunch of lunacy, THAT they keep. Anything plausible which doesn't happen to be within Tank and the other forum regulars and owners comprehension, ie: everything in my theory, is promptly filtered out and the poster banned so they won't upset the mental invalids by raising issues which they can't comprehend and thus their stupidity is revealed for all to see.


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PostPosted: 03 Aug 2007 12:30 am 
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Well, maybe some people here care about the flood tunnels but I personally find them rather dull.


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 Post subject: Other websites.
PostPosted: 03 Aug 2007 10:20 pm 
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Hi Brian, can you recommend some other websites where the odd couple like to post? :lol: especially ones where they are well respected :twisted: and also where they like to advertize their EXPLOIT Oak Island day.

Cerris


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PostPosted: 03 Aug 2007 10:48 pm 
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No, because there are no other websites featuring the non-dynamic duo. Atherton's is the only one that will have them.


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 Post subject: The big edge.
PostPosted: 04 Aug 2007 11:39 pm 
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Hi Brian, at present nobody can compete with the OITS because they have an arrangement with Blankenship to allow tourist to walk arround the Money Pit and Borehole 10X, if we can get our funding I'm gonna change all that Exploit Oak Island stuff.

Cerris


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Instead of asking for $500,000 ask for $7,000,000 and buy the whole island. Buy lots of 649 tickets too.


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