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The title "Hypnerotomachia" is an invented word drawn from the Greek roots for "sleep" (as in "hypnotize"), "love/lust" (as in "erotic"), and "struggle/strife" (as in "naumachia," the mock sea-fights held by ancient Romans). The title thus literally means something like "Struggle for love in a dream," and describes what the main character, Poliphilo, spends the entire story doing: searching for his beloved in a dream.

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Are secret codes really buried in the text of the Hypnerotomachia?
Yes. The disagreement among scholars is simply, how many? One of the Hypnerotomachia's mysteries is that its author never explicitly gives his name, but his identity seems to be revealed when the first letter of every chapter is connected to the next: the letters form the Latin message "Poliam Frater Franciscus Columna Peramavit," meaning "Brother Francesco Colonna Loved Polia Tremendously." (Polia is the name of the main female character in the Hypnerotomachia.) In addition to this hidden acrostic message, the entire text of the book is written in a hybrid of languages that was considered gratuitously complex even in its own day. When these facts are combined with the strangeness of certain elements in the story - the detailed attention to the dimensions and features of buildings the protagonist sees, not to mention the protagonist's sexual feelings toward those buildings - it's easy to see why some readers believe there must be a hidden subtext.

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Note that Le Serpent Rouge is told in the form of a dream, also.

I'm not on very good terms with the author, but this is one of the best articles in English dealing with the Song of Poliphile and its (supposed) links to the Angelic Society.

http://www.philipcoppens.com/hypnerotomachia.html

One other thing:

http://www.renneslechateau.com/anglais/duboisuk.htm

We have just got our hands on a previously unknown original edition of La Vraie Langue Celtique by Henri Boudet. Amazingly, this example bears the following inscription: "A G. d'Orcet, mon indéfectible amitié. H. Boudet"... [To G. d'Orcet, my constant friend].
Grasset d'Orcet was a student at Juilly college in the Seine et Marne departement. His mentor was Abbé Constant, who later became the famous occultist, Eliphas Lévi. Lévi was employed by the head of the establishment who at this time was Abbé Henri Boisnormand de Bonnechose (1800-1883), who in turn became Bishop of Carcassonne at the time of the Rennes-le-Château affair.

Grasset d'Orcet is known for his numerous works on esoteric matters and mysterious archaeology, but also on cryptography and on phonetic cabala. This link which we have just established with the priest of Rennes les Bains may shed new light on Boudet's works and on the theory that his controversial book was a coded document.

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Unjustly forgotten during the first part of the 20th century, despite an eloquent obituary in the Revue Britannique (January 1901), he was plagiarised abusively and shamefully by Joséphin Péladan in Le secret des maîtrises, la clé de Rabelais (was Péladan the only one to do this?!). Today Claude-Sosthème Grasset d'Orcet is finally acknowledged as an authority, as testified to by the hermeticists and occultists who have mentioned him in their works. The contents of Grasset d'Orcet's works certainly remain difficult to understand and only address a very limited and well-informed audience. Furthermore, the author creates strange rules for reading his works, which consist mainly of hiding, through the use of apparantly simple phrases, the real meaning of the text. In other words, most of Grasset's works make use of cryptography and also show certain aspects of hermeticism.

We should mention here the first authors who cited Grasset d'Orcet. We think initially of a figure well known to the Theosophists of the belle époque, Isabel Cooper-Oakley (1854-1914), and of her book Mystical Traditions, which was published in a French edition in 1911; then of Paul Vulliaud (1875-1950) and his La Kabbale Juive (1923); Probst-Biraben, a so-called "on the edge" mason who published Rabelais et le secret de Pantagruel in 1949, partly revisiting the work of Péladan. Nevertheless, we had to wait until the 1970's and 1980's until the work of Grasset d'Orcet was finally examined by two alchemists: Eugène Canseliet and his real or imaginary master Fulcanelli, who says of Grasset in his successful book Le Mystère des Cathédrales:

"...We understand that the inscription must be in a secret language, that is to say the language of the gods or language of the birds, and that one must discover its meaning using the rules of Diplomacy. Several authors, and especially Grasset d'Orcet, in his analysis of the Songe de Polyphile..."

Valérie Gentil also presented a thesis at the University of Bordeaux and Bernard Allieu made Grasset d'Orcet his trusty steed in collecting and assembling his Matériaux Cryptographiques, before publishing these as a first volume in 1976. Of course the chapters are dedicated to the Le Noble Savoir, Rabelais and the first four books of the Pantagruel, the gods on the streets, the Gouliards, the Songe de Poliphile, etc... We should also mention Jean-Claude Drouin, who created a very interesting and educational portrait of Grasset d'Orcet in the periodical Politica Hermetica (n°3) published by Jean-Pierre Laurant.

The language of the birds - or language of the gods - made its way through history and influenced certain modern authors in terms of decoding, alchemy and symbolism. Grasset d'Orcet was cited more and more and his special linguistics, in the form of the cabalistic translation of names, was successful. Some people see, or believe that they find his real identity in the works of Fulcanelli! Others, who are more specialised in the mystery of Rennes-le-Château and its priest Bérenger Saunière, put emphasis on Abbé Henri Boudet, a name brought up often in this story, who wrote in 1886 a most curious work, La vraie langue celtique et le Cromleck de Rennes-les-Bains.

Rightly, there are some, believing that there was some hidden message to find in Boudet's work, who asked whether the latter had not been influenced by Grasset d'Orcet. As far as this is concerned, but without a definite answer for the moment, one could have considered a hypothetical link between the two men, but without definite proof it was wiser to not go off into the realms of speculation. Today, finally and for the first time, we have the proof that these two unusual figures knew one another. Better still, on reading the written dedication from Abbé Boudet to Grasset d'Orcet there is mention of a "constant friendship": That is what is stated!

Based on this indisputible fact, we would dare to consider that not everything has yet been told about Boudet and that an aspect of this learned priest of Rennes les Bains remains to be discovered.

As for his book, despite certain controversy amongst those who suggest that the work of the priest shows a total ignorance of philology and those who claim that the Vrai Langue Celtique reveals a system of coding derived from Jonathan Swift (1667-1745), well-known author of Gulliver's Travels and of a book on the Ars Punica [art of punning], we think that he should be looked at differently and properly re-examined. The future will tell us!

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The name Poliphilo means "lover of many things." The name Polia, in turn, means "many things." And to be sure, Poliphilo does love many things besides Polia. ...But he loves architecture most: he loves it as much as he loves Polia, in the same carnal way. One after the other, the buildings in the book become objects of desire, metaphors for Polia’s solido corpo.

He talks like a Mason and acts like a Mason

seeing buildings and architecture as erotic gives us the understanding of what this temples reflect love of male and female

La vraie langue celtique et le Cromleck de Rennes-les-Bains.

The treasure of Volkes tectosages.
A Roman proconsul of the name of Cæpion took from a votive lake 80 tons of gold and money and immediately re-melted this into ingots. This apparantly disappeared during its transport towards the port of Narbonne following an attack from Volkes tectosages upset by this profanation of their sacred offerings. They would have then withdrawn to the high valley of the Aude and would have hidden the treasure in this area which is easy to defend.

Boudet speaks directly of the Volkes Tectosages, who became Galatian after Brennus, the Celtic Raven God, took the treasures of Delphi and brought them to Tolosa (Toulouse)[Strabo]. The treasure was cursed and so they threw them into a lake.

This one:



One of Otto Rahn's Grail lakes. Don't bother looking for treasure in there because it's long gone.

The Volkes tectosages where the First Gauls or Alpha Galates.

Cromlech is a Brythonic word (Breton/Welsh) used to describe prehistoric megalithic structures, where crom means "bent" and llech means "flagstone". The term is now virtually obsolete in archæology, but remains in use as a colloquial term for two different types of megalithic monument.

In English it usually refers to dolmens, the remains of prehistoric stone chamber tombs. However, it is widely used in French to describe stone circles. Confusingly, some English-speaking archæologists, such as Aubrey Burl, use this second meaning for cromlech in English too.

In addition, the term is occasionally used to describe more complex examples of megalithic architecture, such as the Almendres Cromlech in Portugal.

PAX (681 in Gematria) 681 by the cross (rood)

A square 681 rood by 681 rood has a diagonal that is 3 miles long (error = 0.06%). 3 miles is one League named after Lugh the Celtic Sun God.

The distance between the church near the salt water spa at Rennes les Bains and the mountain top observatory of Rennes le Chateau is one league. Here you'll find La Tour d'Alchemie and it's eight wedge shaped holes designed to look upwards.

How much more in-your-face can this get?

The lake is called Etang du Truites (a corruption of Druides or maybe the other way around). The lake (pond) contains no trout and never has done it does however contain a rare Golden Salamander. Another pond nearby is called Etang du Diable both are between Soularac (Solar Rock) and Montsegur. The Trac des Grailles goes past them.

Here is Soularac in the distance:



You are looking down the Beltane/Samhain line. This is 72 degrees and is parallel with the St Michael Ley line that runs through Glastonbury.

Sauniere said the word SECRET on the Feast of St Michael. Most conical mounds in Europe have a church on them dedicated to St Michael an Arch Angel.

There's a hollow sound under the dolman at Peyrolles, so say the villagers. Peyro is Occitan for stone. There is a document which states that one of the first pieces of land bought by the original knights templar after their initial return from Outremer was the area around Peyrolles.

There is something in the centre of Henry Lincoln's pentacle of mountains. He just wrongly used the more recent sites.

Someone's been playing recently.

There's a thread devoted to the subject of this thread somewhere here ....and Labyrinths....of course.

http://andrewgough.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1248

I believe this is the one. I was just looking for it when you posted that.

The real books to read (aside from Marco Ariani and Mino Gabriele's stunning modern Italian translation and notes), are Joscelyn Godwin's English translation and his "The Real Rule of Four" - a generous and accessible introduction to the field. Both of these are widely available.

And if you are unfamiliar with Joscelyn Godwin's mind-blowing range and depth, well it's a fantastic opportunity to put that right.

Roscoe wrote:


and:



I live in Perth, Western Australia, the land of the Wagyl. Hence the thing that is interesting about this is:

1. the number of propositions that exist suggesting that the St Michael’s line has its antecedents in the imagery of the Serpent as a symbol of the Earth spirit. I understand that during the Dark Ages the peak (no pun intended) of the St Michael veneration saw pilgrims travelling to sacred sites dedicated to St Michael; that is, to shrines that had previously been the sacred sites of the Druids with their focus on the Serpent and the Sun;

2. more recent suggestions that there is a perceptible Earth energy force emanating from these sites and the St Michael Ley line; and,

3. whether there is evidence in the Languedoc (and specifically around the RLC enigma) of similar phenomenon.

Part of my interest in point two (2) stems from the lore of the Australian Aboriginal who hold that their “Song-lines” or “Dreaming tracks” emit a similar energy or power.

By way of background, the Aboriginal Dreamtime, in addition to telling the stories of the Rainbow Serpent, the Giant Devil Dingo and other mythological beings, tells the story of the ancestors of today’s Aboriginal Australians’ journeys across the length and breadth of the country; and how and why they left impressions in the landscape of their experiences during their travels. These impressions (both animate and inanimate) are the spiritual manifestation of these ancestors. The pathways that they trod are known today as Song-lines or Dreaming-tracks and reflect “energy lines” of their travels. These Song-lines join up sacred-sites and continue to play an important role in Aboriginal culture, social custom and traditional law. The ceremony, song and dance (corroboree), that is undertaken at these sites, even to this day, is said to recharge the energy of the Song-lines and strengthen knowledge of the Dreamtime.

Generalizing this so-called energy and tradition to the Ley lines of the UK might be a long bow but the similarity in the oral legend is perhaps somewhat more than a coincidence. Read more at:

Paul Tacon. “Chains of Connection” Up North; Myths, Threats and Enchantments. Griffith Review, Edition 9. (Griffith University, 2005). Available at:

http://www98.griffith.edu.au/dspace/bit ... /30141.pdf

And also (the dreaded): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songlines

Regards to all

Wombat.

Hey Wombat remember Tiddalik the Giant frog who drank all the water. That was my favourite. I even made a clay frog at school in ode of him.
I'm doing my degree open uni distance from Murdoch WA and at the moment one of my units is out Griffith. Small world.

He's a great author, I also think his book Arktos is an excellent work as well. Some fascinating background material to the PoS-RlC saga, particularly where he deals with the Angelic Society and the Polaires.

The Rule of Four never quite took off as well as the Da Vinci Code, it's too bad, despite many similarities (including using academics as protagonists).

Glad to see Roger posted a page from the original manuscript (I think to make some kind of point about esotericism). Meanwhile, the whole text is online now. (In fact, may be the source of the page he posted.)

Original scans in Italian
http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/HP/hyp000.htm

Some analytic notes
http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/HP/hyptext0.htm

As was pointed out, no (complete) English translation was available before 1999 due to the "density" of the work, but there is one now, although not online. Godwin wrote it, it came out in paperback in 2005.

I think whoever wrote Le Serpent Rouge was familiar with it, and used it as a model. Although, of course, many Surrealist works are told in the form of a waking dream, since one of the Surrealists' many beliefs was that dreaming opened one's mind to the 'Jungian' and other secrets of the unconscious.

And, Grasset d'Orcet wrote quite a bit about the text. How interesting to find him corresponding with Henri Boudet.

Lamy and others seem to think the Angelic Society also considered it one of their "bibles," so to speak.

The ley line subject fascinates me, but it's one whose permutations are curious.

When Alfred Watkins first wrote The Old Straight Track, suggesting alignments existed between various things in the English countryside, he was primarily suggesting these were literally "roads" used for the transport of salt, coal, and other commodities.

Only later did archaeo-astronomy really come into bloom and people began to realize these lines actually met points on the horizon that corresponded to the rising or setting of astronomical bodies, including the sun and moon on certain days.

John Michell really did a great deal to introduce people to this subject, but the problem is he stamped the idea of these lines being "earth energy conduits" into their mind, and got people into thinking they could be located through dowsing. I appreciate that Michell looked at their use cross-culturally, particularly in China ("dragon paths"), but then jumped from that to saying they were evidence of a lost global civilization.

I agree with you there is an obvious parallel to the "songlines" of the Australian aborigines, one also little explored.

Not many people have written about their use in the New World, particularly among the Maya (their "sacbeob" which I mentioned before), or the Nazca. It turns out the Nazca not only made their massive earth figurines, they also made long lines connecting things in the landscape called ceques.

http://archaeology.about.com/od/cbthrou ... system.htm

And this is where I like Paul Devereux's contribution to the subject. Devereux is interested in earth energies, he even believes UFOs may be "earthlights" generated by piezo-electric strain. But Devereux also notes that in the New World, these lines are used by shamans travelling in their spirit body for navigation. Kind of like a spiritual road network.

http://www.pauldevereux.co.uk/new/html/ ... lines.html

This is kind of where my thinking is these days. Perhaps we are not dealing with a lost global civilization. But we could be dealing with parallel independent invention. What we call "shamanism" (for lack of a better term) seems to have existed among the Aborigines, the Maya, the Nazca, and the Megalithic civilizations of Europe. Perhaps these lines were used by shamans in trance, and also as astronomical alignments.

The "earth energy" hypothesis is interesting, especially when people start paralleling the energy meridians of the Earth with the supposed acupuncture meridians of the human body, but like Devereux, I don't know if it really best explains the use of this system outside Britain.

The St Michael Ley Line also has the name Dragon Line and indeed has the Church of Ottery Saint George on the line as well as numerous churches called St Michael.

In China straight lines are called Lung Mei, it means Dragon Lines.

We've already had several subjects on this here's another one.

The Viking Serpent

The Vikings obviously thought a great deal about the Dragon or Serpent.



The Boulevard St Michel in Paris is a Ley Line.



Yep!

Hence the ceremony on the Belvedere at the death of Sauniere.

Bulgaria?

As in Bulgars



Axe Historique in Paris. Note the arch with the offset pole in it at the end in which the sun sets on a certain day. The Sun King would have been pleased.

Seeker wrote:


It is unfortunate that Michell went that far, as it reduces the credibility of so much else that he wrote and that was of interest. Linking it to UFOs, crop circles, dowsing etc is a step too far; and then the "New Agers" get on board and researchers, who have a reputation to build, abandon the space.

http://www.skepdic.com/tialien.html

Nevertheless roscoe's posts, including.....


...puts it back into context without the Earth energy downside.

The third (3) point in my initial post on this is the real focus of interest. Accordingly, roscoe's Beltain/Samhain line running 72 degrees through Soularac is worth a closer analysis next time I'm there.

Regards to all

Wombat.

Might be, might not be.

If UFOs are "earthlights" generated by geomagnetic forces, you might expect them to appear at places of concentration of that energy. It is also possible that ancient people might have sited megalithic monuments at such sites. Therefore, it's an interesting datum to observe, as Michell did, that many sightings are near such places. (I've also seen we've discussed such is said to be true of Pech Cardou, but I digress.) I'm just saying it can't be ruled out. Michell seemed more to opine they were alien or 'ultraterrestrial' craft and that they followed such lines for navigation. (As a further aside, the late John Keel also noted many UFO sightings occur near modern day crossroads of highways -- "cruce"....)

Some crop circles appear to be on notable "ley lines" in Britain. Again, I don't know what that means. I take it to mean the human circlemakers have read books about ley lines, know where they are supposed to be, and choose, for whatever reason, to put them there. Again, it's all just data, we're left to decide the significance.

Dowsers claim that many megalithic sites are on "hot spots" that the dowser's rod responds strongly to. Again, lots of questions. Do dowsers really pick up on any sort of "earth force"? And is it concentrated on these sites? Would the ley lines be conduits for it? We just don't know.

On the other hand, we have to stick to what we can prove. We can't use dowsing to prove anything, until we prove dowsing really works. Just as I'm not too keen on using psychics to investigate ancient sites, until we prove ESP really works.

The Ley Line skeptics point out that alignments of various things can occur by chance. The famous skeptical demonstration that you can easily show that telephone booths in London fall on "accidental" alignments. As the Ley Line wikipedia article shows, 137 random points can result in 80 accidental alignments of 4 points. Obviously, chance starts to fail the more points you have on the line. Once you get to 6 or 7 points, chance becomes a very unlikely explanation.

People used to complain that Watkins' lines linked sites from many different historic periods. After all, why should we consider it significant a medieval church from 1200 CE, a Celtic temple from 300 BCE, and a megalithic cromlech from 2000 BCE are all on the same line? Surely people from different periods were not all following the same pattern? Watkins observed, rightly, that the church adopted sites of older significance, and thus managed to preserve older patterns, even if unintentionally. Obviously, others have theorized they did so deliberately (thus they still had knowledge of the ancient arts), but that's a different question.

Henry Lincoln's retort to the skeptics regarding this is that chance is not likely to result in things not only being aligned but also at fixed-multiple distances from each other. Nor is it likely to generate alignments that are not just random, but interconnect to form a geometric pattern.

I would also say chance is unlikely to generate an alignment of structures that also terminate in an archaeo-astronomical rising/setting point on the horizon; or that form a coherent pattern such as a geometrical figure or (as some have claimed for French cathedrals) the replica of a constellation; or that fall along a N-S meridian line or at fixed angular ratios to such lines.

Archaeoastronomy/ethnoastronomy is coming into its own as a respected scholarly discipline. It has journals. It's not just for the nuts anymore. But you're right, they are careful to keep the New Agers at bay as they try and establish credibility.

I suspect it's one part of the puzzle. The next field to establish itself is archaeogeodesy.
http://www.jqjacobs.net/astro/aegeo.html

That these alignments point to astronomical risings/settings on the horizon is only part of the puzzle, but it's one of the easier things to demonstrate.

The ancient Chinese had a definite geomantic art to siting places in the landscape.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feng_shui

This is why Michell focuses on them. Geomagnetism was part of the puzzle, the Chinese geomancers did use special compasses. So also was the relationship of sites to the "five elements" in the landscape. So also was placing things on alignments. And the positions of heavenly bodies.

They cannot have been the only culture to do so. I think we're starting to see that many peoples had similar geomantic/geodetic arts. The "why" of why they did so can wait (earth forces, global grids, etc, etc). That they did is the interesting question to demonstrate.

That people also attempted to replicate the patterns of the heavens on the Earth, creating things like the Glasonbury zodiac, or the supposed "Chartres constellation" of Louis Charpentier -- much more controversial. But I believe they did.
http://www.vortexmaps.com/chartres.php

Ancient man didn't have radios, TVs, or computers to distract them at night. But they did have the night sky. They did watch the patterns in it. They did align their monuments towards it. And I also think they tried to replicate constellations in how they sited monuments here on the ground, fulfilling the famous Hermetic axiom.

You're right, Wombat, we can't let the nutters take and control the field, the question is too serious and interesting to leave to them.

Stonehenge dowsed and other "hotspots" of UFO activity are explored looking for Ley line connections in this TV production

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWzMzlrwTDA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYUT06QV-OA&NR=1

Stonehenge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5W6NkyE ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AwXvFS_ ... re=related

Sedona:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL31mHd5 ... re=related

"Chartres constellation"


Why is 33 degrees associated with Mastery?
The astrological circle equals 360 degrees - 12 zodiacal houses of 30 degrees each.

f you plot 3 degrees of Taurus on the great wheel of 360 degrees starting with zero degrees Aries, 3 Taurus equals 33 degrees. This was the answer. Alcyone is the brightest star in the Pleiadian cluster and thus Alcyone is 33 degrees - the number of Mastery. Further, I discovered that by using Etymology (origins of words) when the word Master is divided into two becomes Ma / Ster and it means Mother Star. Thus, Alcyone is the number of the Mother Star - 33 degrees.

Does Cyon not sound like Sion/Zion - the heavenly city of God? 'Glorious things of Thee are spoken, Zion city of our God.' Psalm 87. The Hebrews believed it to be the City of David- the City of the Lord- the City of Foundation.

In Micah 4:8 of the Old Testament, it reads, 'And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.' Remember the Pleiades were most frequently represented as a flock of doves.




in the stained glass Rose window of Blanche Castille is a flock of doves pointing to the Daughter of Zion At Chartres there is a stained glass window with the signs of the Zodiac

so tell me these people weren't star gazers
http://www.illuminati-news.com/33-degrees.htm

Priory of Sion and its reported reverence for Mary Magdalene. The clue is in her name, which seems to mean 'of Magdala' - with some possible interpretation as 'place of the dove', 'place of the tower' and 'temple-tower'. 8 In the Woman with the Alabaster Jar Margaret Starbird writes that 'tower of the flock' in the above Biblical reference is translated into Magdal-edar.9 So was Mary Magdalene just a secret Pleiadian code and the Priory of Sion was actually the Priory of Alcyone? The so-called sacred Merovingian bloodline between Mary Magdalene and Jesus might actually refer to their Pleiadian cosmic origins. For example, like many other ancient cultures, the Mayans of Meso-America called the Pleiades 'the cranary' for it was the seedbed of their civilisation and the cosmic star mother who gave her children the codes of light.10 The Merovingians founded and named the city of Paris after Prince Paris, the son of King Priam of Troy. In the Iliad, Electra (one of the seven Pleiades) was the mother of Dardanos, the founder of Trojan race and according to David Icke, the Merovingian bloodline is traced back to Troy - another Pleiadian connection.

Cyon is a dog. Re-read the Book of Tobit.

This constellation is said to represent the dog set by Jupiter to guard Europa whom he had stolen and conveyed to Crete. According to other accounts, however, it was either Laelaps, the hound of Actaeon; that of Diana's nymph Procris; that given by Aurora to Cephalus; or finally one of the dogs of Orion. [Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923, p.34.]

there is a tale of sisters
Because Sirius (the main star in Canis Major) and Procyon (the main star in Canis Minor) are seen on opposite sides of the Milky Way, there is an Arab story describing how these two companions became separated by the great Sky River. The Arabs tell of two sisters who tried to follow their brother Suhail (Canopus) across the sky. When they came to the great Sky River they plunged in to swim across. The older and stronger sister (Sirius) managed and today can be seen on the southern bank of that great river. But the younger sister was too weak and remained weeping on the northern bank, where we still see her today as Procyon, or Canis Minor.

http://www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/CanisMajor.html


there is a dark side to this Dog

Custos Europae is in allusion to the story of the Bull who, notwithstanding the Dog's watchfulness, carried off that maiden; and Janitor Lethaeus, the Keeper of Hell, makes him a southern Cerberus, the watch-dog of the lower heavens, which in early mythology were regarded as the abode of demons: a title more appropriate here than for the so-named modern group in the northern, or upper, sky.

kinda like Harry Potters doggie with three heads

Or even more basic ...the dog/Angel Cyon is the companion on the journey to the underworld and out the other side.....the black dog...Anubis.

sheila...
i see where you are going with this...and wow! this book changes again for me, and my reading of it...

Chagall`s "Rememberances of the Past" - a painter of dreams.

And ALCYONE (The Cyon) is where God lives according to the WATCHTOWER Society (Jehovah's Witnesses).

she's a dove one of seven sisters Pleiades. The Japanese car Subaru has the logo of the Pleiades. Subaru means Pleiades.

Procyon (Before Cyon) forms part of the winter triangle.

Another one of the Pleiades is Maia after whom the month of may is named.

Maia
by Daphne Elliott
"The Pleiades" was the name given to the seven daughters of Atlas and Pleione. Maia was the eldest of the daughters, and said to be the most beautiful. Being shy, she lived quietly and alone in a cave on Mount Cyllene, in Arcadia.

Zeus, however, discovered the beautiful young woman, and fell in love with her. He came to her cave at night, to make love to her away from the jealous eyes of his wife, Hera. As a result, Maia bore Zeus a son, Hermes.

When still an infant, Hermes stole some cattle from the god Apollo, and hid them in his mother's cave. When Apollo stormed into Maia's cave, she showed him the tiny baby to prove he could not have been the cattle thief. Apollo was not fooled, however, and angrily appealed to Zeus to punish Hermes. Zeus arbitrated by requiring Hermes to give back the cattle. During the feud, baby Hermes played the lyre, and Apollo was so enchanted by the music that he dropped the charges, and even gave some of the cattle to Hermes, as well as other gifts.

Some time later, Maia helped Zeus when Hera had caused the death of one of his other mistresses, Callisto, who had borne him a son, named Arcas. Zeus ordered Hermes to give Arcas to Maia to raise as her own, which she did. Arcas and Callisto were eventually placed in the sky, becoming the constellations Ursa Major and Ursa Minor (Big and Little Bear) to escape the wrath of the ever-jealous Hera.

This is wrong as Arcas (also the Occitan name for Arques) is in fact Arcturus in the constellation of Bootes.

Arcturus means bear watcher. In Poussin's Les Bergers d'Arcadie he turns around and watches his mother Callisto (Ursa Major) whilst pointing at the line on the tomb that may have been near Arques.

Arktos
From Wikipedia

Arktos, Greek αρκτος, means 'bear'. The Arctic is named from this Greek word in reference to the northern constellations of Ursa Major, Great Bear, and Ursa Minor, Little Bear.

Arktos was a centaur who fought against the Lapith spearmen.[1]

Arktos is also one of the The Hours, known as Horai - Greek tutelary goddesses of the time of day; Arktos is last light.[2]

"The hall of Allmother Harmonia [in the vault of heaven], where that Nymphe dwelt in a house, self-built, shaped like the great universe with its four quarters joined in one. Four portals were about that stronghold standing proof against the four Aetai (Winds). Handmaids [Horai of the Hours] protected this dwelling on all sides, a round image of the universe: the doors were allotted - Anatolia (Rising) was the maid who attended the East Wind’s (Euros’) gate; at the West Wind’s (Zephyros’) was Dysis (Setting) the nurse of Selene; Mesembrias (Midday) held the bold of the fiery South (Notos); Arktos the Bear was the servant who opened the gate of the North (Boreas), thick with clouds and sprinkled with hail."[3]



Apollo on the other hand of course Rides a White Swan.

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Like the people of the Beltane according to Marc Bolan.[/url]

The Ley Line I've been talking about is in fact called the St Michael/Apollo Ley line.

roscoe posted:


That would be a rare bird in the land if it's from Australian Aboriginal rock art. There were no white swans in Australia before European settlement.

Black swans? Yes. No bone of contention there. Maybe Sheila can give us an interpretation of the dark side of this?

Regards to all

Wombat.

That petroglyph looks Native american rather than Australian to my mind.....Spirals indicating underground water forces....large white bird indicating.....?

Sheila wrote:


.........chicken Kiev?

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Wombat.