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 Post subject: Sainte Raphine
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2009 5:41 pm 
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Do any of you know who this saint was or have pictures of the ruined chapel or the statue?

I can't find much, and what I do find is mainly in French...and I can't read it.... :cry:

http://www.tourinfos.com/gb/r0011/d0011/m0003/p000085.htm

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Durban is situated about twenty Kilometres far from the city named Sigean , it already existed in the Gallo-Romaine time.


The historians think that in this place was built the first church dedicated to Saint Just.


Historically Cathar, this village didn't have a great importance, because the Lord Guillaume de Durban pledged loyalty to King of France from 1328.


The castle, of which the first tracks date from the eleventh century and the high part of the village are surrounded with a wall of fortifications. You will discover however from there a magnificent view.


We advise you to have a look at the Holy church Saint-Just-Holy Minister with, in its nave, a splendid wooden Christ dated from the sixteenth century and its medieval door transformed into a bell tower.


We advise you also to stroll in this full of charm countryside ,surrounded with vineyards, to visit the Holy church Ruphine, in 1,5 km of Tuchan in the southwest, as well as the one of Saint Raphine (famous holy Spaniards).


http://www.sentiersdefrance.com/pdf/C264-CL_en.pdf

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A long walk through vineyards. After leaving Durban behind, you shall cross the ‘Col-de-Saint-Juste’ and pass below the remains of the ancient chapel ‘Sainte Raphine” before climbing to the feet of the statue of this saint. Enjoy magnificent views of the oriental Corbières mountains. You shall go round the ‘Pic-de-miraille’, cross the “Pech-du-Bac” and Remouly to finally reach the quaint little village of “Nouvelle” and its severely damaged castle which outbuildings have been turned into wine cellars. Further down you shall discover, amongst the vineyards, the Castle of Domneuve or as we would rather say a fortified construction surrounded by hills. You shall also catch sight of the Castle of Aguilar, erected upon a hilltop overlooking the Tuchan plain. This quaint village is also a stopover for the day.


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 Post subject: Serendipity I have a present for you
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2009 1:32 am 
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I was on a research hunt and found something that just screamed Serendipity

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This Obelisk monument is dedicated to James Robertson, the founder of Nashville in Centennial Park, as Lake Watauga is in the foreground. This is inscribed on the plaque on the obelisk:

James Robertson
Founder of Nashville
"We are the advance guard of civilization. Our way is across the Continent." Robertson-1770

Born in Brunswick County, Virginia, June 28, 1742.
Moved to North Carolina in 1750.
Came to Tennessee in 1769.
Settled Nashville in 1780.
Died in Tennessee Sept 1, 1814.
Reinterred inthe City Cemetery at Nashville, 1825 under authority of the Tennessee Legislature.

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 Post subject: How many James Robertson's ?
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Notice that the monument is missing its capstone (the monument is not complete)...which may mean that the work of this particular James Robertson is still yet to be completed.

As far as I know, I am not related to the James Robertson that formed Tennessee. This particular family has a great website with lots of information.

http://jrshelby.com/rfotw/genjames.htm

Then there was the James Robertson who was Royal Governor of NY in 1780. He is the man who saved Benedict Arnold and who Arnold named one of his sons after. His house in Newbigging Scotland is now a Masonic Lodge.

http://www.famousamericans.net/jamesrobertson/

Then there is the James Robertson who was president of the United States Bank

http://www.scripophily.net/baofunstofam2.html

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Beautiful certificate from the Bank of the United States of America issued in 1850. This historic document was printed by Underwood, Bald, Spencer & Hufty and has an ornate border around it with a vignette of a woman touching an eagle with one hand and holding a spear with the other as a ship passes in the background. There is also an embossed seal. This item is hand signed by the Company's President ( James Robertson) and Cashier and is over 157 years old.


Of course there is the man who I know is my great grandfather, James Douglas Robertson....who is the first of our family to be in the US. In 1865 he built the (present) Second Congregational Church in Danbury CT.
It was dedicated on May 9, 1865. 100 years to the day that I was born. Coincendence? Yeah, right...whatever.

After building the church, in 1866 he went to Europe because of ill health. While he was there, he taught bible classes at the American Chapel on Rue de Bessi in Paris and distributed the New Testament during the Exhibition of 1867.

In Nov. 1867 he was appointed US Counsul to Valencia, Spain. He returned to the US in May, his health not improving. He later became a carpet bagger in Charleston SC which led to him being on the school board....where he got in trouble for conflicts of interest in getting school books printed. Not bad for an imigrant from Kelso, Scotland.


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Then there is this guy:
http://www.jamesrobertson.com/index.htm

I get his newsletters. Read what he has to say about Monetary Reform. Very enlightening.

One of my favorite James Robertson's (besides family members) is this fella:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Robertson_(judge)

He was the only person with the balls to tell Bush and Cheney they were acting outside the lawful limits....he actually resigned his position on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (unlawful wire-tapping) when they would not cease their activities.


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double post...deleted.

I got a broken mouse....stuff just isn't working right this morning.


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 Post subject: Sauniere and Durban
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http://www.perillos.com/bs_durban.html

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According to de Sède, Saunière feared the Carthusian monks and the area of Durban-Corbières in general. But why? What was it that made Saunière balk at taking up his posting in Coustouge?


From the same document linked above...

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What is of interest there are his “walks”, after the meal… These were, it seems, not merely the constitutional, digestive and meditative walks that he pretended they were. To begin with, they always make him end up in the same location. Perhaps he loved the view. But that location, known as “Roc Combach”, is a large and high rock, hanging over the village


Is this anywhere near the chapel of Sainte Raphine?

Why was BS afraid of the area? What was he looking for? and why haven't I heard mention of this Sainte Raphine?


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Some info on Ste Raphine in the Metz area -

http://www.sainte-ruffine.fr/1-3.htm

And a Spanish St Rufina -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justa_and_Rufina

And a painting of St Rufina by Velazquez -
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... -Qa909HmAQ

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 Post subject: Life of St Rufina/Raphine
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2009 4:21 pm 
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SS. Rufina and Secunda A.D. 257 Feast Day - July 10th

Rufina and Secunda were two virgin sisters in Rome, daughters of Asterius and Aurelia, of honourable family. They were betrothed by their parents to two young patricians Armentarius and Verinus, who, like the maidens, were Christians. But when the persecution of Valerian and Gallienus broke out, the two young men renounced their faith to secure their lives. When Rufina and Secunda heard this, they refused to accept them as their husbands, and started in a closed carriage for a villa that belonged to them in Tuscany. Armentarius and Verinus at once appealed to the Count Archisilaus, who arrested them on their road, and they were brought back to Rome, and led before the prefect of the city, Junius Donatus. He tried in vain to persuade them to renounce their religion, and marry the young patrician renegades. Their constancy aroused his fury. He ordered Secunda, the youngest, to be scourged before her elder sister, hoping to melt the heart of Rufina, and turn her from her purpose through compassion for the young girl.

But Rufina cried out, when the first strokes were laid upon her tender white shoulders,"Monster! why dost thou glorify my sister and dishonour me?" Then Junius Donatus said "You are more of a fool than your sister."
"I am no fool," answered Rufina, "nor is my sister. But as we are both Christians, let us both be beaten."

Finding that nothing he could do would change their purpose, the prefect reluctantly gave orders for their execution on the Via Cornelia, at a place called Buxo. One was decapitated, the other beaten to death.
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The relics of these martyrs were discovered by Pope Anastasius IV and are now in the Lateran basilica of SS Rufina and Secunda.

(from The Lives of the Saints by Rev S.Baring Gould, Vol7)

And a rather interesting picture by Crespi depicting the martyrdom -

http://posters.seindal.dk/p4942076_Mart ... conda.html

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Thank you ndawe.

Is Ruphine and Raphine the same?

(from the Durban link referenced above)
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We advise you also to stroll in this full of charm countryside ,surrounded with vineyards, to visit the Holy church Ruphine, in 1,5 km of Tuchan in the southwest, as well as the one of Saint Raphine (famous holy Spaniards).


The above statement gave me the impression they were different.


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From Wikipedia

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La Seo Cathedral (Zaragoza) contains a chapel dedicated to Justa and Rufina. Agost, in Valencia province, is the location of a hermitage dedicated to these saints (Ermita de Santa Justa y Rufina), built in 1821. Toledo also has a church dedicated to them.


La Seo Cathedral is where the Aragon Kings were crowned. What does Aragon have to do with RLC?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Seo_Cathedral

The geneaology of the Aragon Kings is extremely hard to follow because of all the incest....Aunts married nephews and Uncles married nieces...Take Uraka (sp) of Poland for instance...she married her nephew (one of the Alphonso's)

So anyway...at least we found the connection between this area and the Aragon Kings that the countessa was referring to...


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Is Ruphine and Raphine the same?

I'm afraid I am not familiar with this site, so do not know - you could always ask Andre on the perillos.com site
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 Post subject: Hey Serendipity
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your right the capstone is missing
It has notches like a measuring ruler

but did you know his wife had the first baby in nashville

and remember nashville is on the 33 degree parallel

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 Post subject: Re: Hey Serendipity
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lovuian wrote:
your right the capstone is missing
It has notches like a measuring ruler

but did you know his wife had the first baby in nashville
I did not know this

and remember nashville is on the 33 degree parallel


I didn't know about the 33 degree parallel either.

I have never been to Nashville. But I lived 6 months in Memphis. Went to Graceland and the Peabody Hotel.

hhhmmm....Peabody Hotel.
http://www.peabodymemphis.com/

The Peabody is where part of the movie "The Firm" was filmed. The movie starred Tom Cruise.

Another Tom Cruise film is "War of the Worlds." Part of "War of the Worlds" was filmed in Raphine, VA

[What if....BS had an oracle that told him; "The war of the worlds would take place at raphine"...it surely would explain his fear...and the oracle would be 100% correct]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407304/locations


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 Post subject: Raphine, VA
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2009 12:46 pm 
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My mother used to own a restaurant in Raphine VA called the Plantation Restaurant.

Lately, in the property directly behind it, Mr. Daniel Dorsch and his passengers lost their lives. The property where he crashed is owned by VA Tech and is part of McCormicks Farm, where the reaper was invented.

The crash was horrendous...
http://www.raphinefire.com/history.html?view=1&id=33057

http://www.fairfieldrescue.com/page5.php?SessionID=753ed4db4a5f209d57c04&view=thumbnailList&category=8

(at the top of the page at the Fairfield rescue site you will see a picture of the rescue vehicles in their garage....I used to play in front of those doors as a child)


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 Post subject: Virginia in the Prophecies of Merlin
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2009 1:16 pm 
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If Merlin has anything to do with the Grail and its search, then any topic within his prophecies would be about RLC, would it not?

The Colony/State/Commonwealth/Kingdom of Virginia was foretold in Merlin's Prophecies...something about a new land of Virgins. I'll get the exact prophecy later (unless one of you want to help an ole girl out)

Back to Raphine...

Raphine is a nothing more than an exit on Interstate 81. It is mostly known for its truck-stops.
http://www.whitestruckstop.com/home.htm

[If Mr. Dorsch's plane had gone another 300 yards it would have hit the above ground fuel tanks at Whites and blown the entire county off the map.]

Although Raphine is small, it is home to 2 (Secunda) inventions that changed the world....McCormick's Reaper and Mr. Gibbs modern sewing machine (Raphine means either needle or to sew).

There is a chapel in the La Seo Cathedral in Seville dedicated to the saints. The motto for Seville includes a reference to a skien of yarn (sewing, needles)...and the saints are said to be the protectors of the Giralda, the bell tower (needle again?) at the Cathedral.

The skein of yarn from the seville motto is shown as the symbol for infinity on its side....the infinity symbol is also found in the logo for the 7 society of UVA, (was well as the symbol for Alpha and Omega and the circle with the dot in it....earth, I think).


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Oh God, I knew this was going to happen... :?

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ndawe wrote:
Oh God, I knew this was going to happen... :?


You knew what was going to happen?

Oh I see, I haven't taken this research in the direction that you would consider scholarly.

What is truth for one, cannot be seen by all, that is how the lies are carried from century to century.

The men who established this country did everything for a reason, including where they established towns and where the lines were drawn for maps and meridians.

Raphine and the county of Rockbridge were well known to our founding fathers....Washington, Jefferson, etc. etc.

Virginia is known as the Fifth Kingdom. According to Daniel the Fifth Kingdom is represented by a stone.

Here's your stone....right next to arcadia, va
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Do a quick google search for Virginia+Fifth Kingdom


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Nope, to the bait I will not rise.

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Please forgive me, I'm not trying to bait anyone. I'm just pmsing...thank goodness I'm not heavily armed.

Let me try to explain some things I know, or think I know.

Tom Cruise is a scientologist. I think scientology has a connection to JPL/NASA...and the research into the grail is high in religious and astrological content. (now think in terms of information that may be known)

McCormick's Farm is owned by VA Tech. Certainly you remember that 33 humans lost their lives at that campus on April 16th 2007.
http://www.vaes.vt.edu/steeles/mccormick/mccormick.html

My mother's restaurant, that actually sat on top of McCormick's farm was called the Plantation Restaurant. (Mr. Dorsch's plane almost fell on it).

Plantation Rd., can be found in Roanoke, VA. Roanoke is the Star City of the south...
http://www.roanokeva.gov/85256A8D0062AF37/vwContentByKey/N25DWPNC572LWODEN
(5 pointed Star - 5th Kingdom)

The seal for the Virginia Company clearly states that VA is the 5th Kingdom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Va_Company_Seal.gif

The Virginia Company was chartered by James I - who I believe established the Richmond Meridian.

Sir Francis Bacon is listed as a stock holder of the company on the May 1609 Charter:
http://1609chronology.blogspot.com/2009/05/second-charter-of-virginia-company-may.html

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Robert Cecil, Earl of Salisbury
Henry Wriothesley, Earl of Southampton
William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke
Henry, Earl of Lincoln
Philip Herbert, Earl of Montgomery
Sir Henry Nevil
Sir Thomas Smith
Sir Anthony Cope
Sir Horatio Vere
Sir Thomas Gates
Sir Henry Carey
Sir Walter Cope
Sir Francis Wolley
Sir Francis Bacon
Sir George Somers
Sir Dudley Digges


Sir Francis Bacon is rumored to be the actual Shakespeare.
Sir Francis Bacon wrote "The New Atlantis"
http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/bacon/atlantis.html

If I'm not mistaken there is a monument to Shakespeare on the Richmond Meridian.

There used to be Baconian Societies.


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to continue....(I'm having to post in stages...I keep losing internet connections)

thinking on maps and roads....Plantation Rd in Raonoke in intersected by Columbia Ave and Robertson St....before you get to....Thor, Inc. (Thor, the hammer god)...the shooting range that Cho used was off of Plantation Rd. too

Now, VA Tech is a very interesting university. It is where cloning was first created. The Research Park at VA Tech is full of DARPA/NASA/Military contractors.

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/vtpubs/spectrum/sp970522/1a.html see last paragraph.

http://www.vtcrc.com/

VA Tech partnered with Dyncorp/CSC in it's Economic Development efforts...
http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/vtpubs/spectrum/sp961017/1b.html

The Registered Agent for the company that owned Dan Dorsch's plane is also...CSC.

Now, Dan Dorsch was one of the largest Papa Johns franchise owners in Florida. While he was CEO of Rally's/Checkers Restaurant chains, he worked with Wendy A. Beck who is now CFO of Dominoe's Pizza.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=135383&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1136527&highlight=

Domino's Pizza was created by Tom Monaghan.
Tom Monaghan also created Legatus and the Town Ave Maria in Florida.

Other conspiracy theorists believe that Legatus runs the world..
http://avewatch.com/?p=43
http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/


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Philip Herbert, Earl of Montgomery

listed as stock holder of VA Company.

VA Tech is in Montgomery County.

The New River flows through Montgomery County. The New River is second in age only to the Nile River...and it also flows backwards...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_River_(Kanawha_River)

Do you think ancient map makers knew where the most ancient rivers on the planet were located?


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Natural Bridge was bought as a personal purchase by Thomas Jefferson.

George Washington surveyed the area and carved his intitials into the bridge.

The James River flows directly behind it.

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the continued view....

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In a book entitled...Armegaddon: The overthrow of Romanism and Monarchy...

Section V (5) is: The Fifth Kingdom, Ancient of Days, The United States
http://books.google.com/books?id=RFJhA8XONOgC&pg=PA200&dq=fifth+kingdom


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I thoguht I might finish this thread by showing just how much of the US government is run by Dyncorp...and I suppose I will get around to that.

But...the BIG news in my area this morning is this....

Cho (mental) health records found
http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/212784

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RICHMOND -- Virginia State Police are investigating the circumstances surrounding the discovery of Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho's missing mental health records.

Former Cook Counseling Center Director Robert Miller returned Cho's records and those of several other students to the university July 16 after finding them in his home, according to a memorandum from the university's legal counsel to the counselor for Gov. Tim Kaine. The memorandum was released Wednesday.

The recovered documents are expected to contain full details of Cho's interactions with Tech counseling staff, university spokesman Mark Owczarski said.

It's unclear how Miller came to remove the files from the counseling center. It has been a long-standing policy that all files remain at the counseling center, Owczarski said.

The discovery has raised new questions about the handling of information related to the April 16, 2007, rampage. Cho killed 32 students, faculty and staff in West Ambler Johnston Hall and Norris Hall before turning the gun on himself.

Tech officials have turned over copies of the records to the state police, Owczarski said.

Authorities will investigate the disappearance to determine if laws were broken, Kaine said. If they find evidence of a crime, it will be turned over to the Montgomery County commonwealth's attorney, state police spokeswoman Corinne Geller said.

State police served a search warrant on the university shortly after the shootings seeking treatment records of Cho, who had a history of behavioral problems. But the counseling center's staff could not find those records.

Tech officials now believe the records were removed more than a year before the shootings, when Miller transferred from the counseling center, according to the memo from Mary Beth Nash, the university's legal counsel.

Miller was transferred to a counseling position in the human resources department in December 2005, Owczarski said. Citing personnel matters, he declined to say why Miller was transferred.

The disappearance has been a source of consternation for victims' families and a state panel that investigated the shootings.

State and university officials are seeking consent from Cho's family and the administrator of his estate to make the records public, but Kaine also noted that the information could be obtained by subpoena.

Kaine said he intends to have the information added to a public archive of records related to the shootings.

The families of two deceased victims, Julia Kathleen Pryde and Erin Nicole Peterson, have lawsuits pending in Montgomery County Circuit Court against the state, university, the New River Valley Community Services Board and Cho's estate. Miller and several Tech officials are named as defendants in the case.

The remaining victims' families signed an $11 million settlement offered by the state.

Robert Hall, an attorney for the Pryde and Peterson families, said the discovery of Cho's records raises questions about why Miller removed them in the first place.

"Why did he take any patient records home, and why this kid?" Hall said in a telephone interview Wednesday.

"How could he not have been aware of the state police search warrant and the commentary in the governor's [panel] report about the disappearance of these records?" Hall said. "I guess the last question is why now? Why did he find these records now?"

He said the removal of the records was "probably in violation of state laws and regulations in terms of the maintenance of mental health records."

When asked by Tech officials after the shootings if he knew the whereabouts of Cho's missing records, Miller said he did not, according to Owczarski.

Miller retired from Tech in 2008 and now is an assistant professor at the Edward Via College of Osteopathic Medicine. He did not answer the door at his Blacksburg home Wednesday, where construction debris and bulging black garbage bags littered the front porch. Nor did Miller return phone or e-mail messages seeking comment.

Roger O'Dell of Roanoke County, whose son Derek was wounded in the shootings, said he had assumed the records "were long gone."

"It makes you wonder what the motivation was," O'Dell said. "It could have been legitimate. But if it was legitimate, he should have racked his brain about two years ago.

"You wonder what else maybe could have happened that we don't know about," O'Dell said. "And it would make you question the whole legitimacy of the counseling provided at the Cook Counseling Center if it was provided under the leadership of someone who would do something like this."

Andy Goddard, the father of wounded student Colin Goddard, said the most important question may be answered by the medical file: "How disturbed was he at the time and was it clear to the individuals. And if it was, what did they recommend at the time?"

Goddard said families received an e-mail from the governor's office about an "important announcement" Tuesday night. It didn't mention the records, and Goddard said he was shocked when he heard the news Wednesday.

To him, it's just another twist in an ever-changing story about the shootings and their cause.

"It seems there's no end to it," he said. "We thought we'd come to an end with the panel report. And then the settlement revealed new stuff and we found out there were things wrong with the panel report."

Meetings with police and revelations from lawyers produced still more information and changes to the narrative, he said. But it will all be worth it if it can provide some closure and a clear picture of what happened and why, so that others can learn from it.

"For a lot of people the only thing that could come out of it good is teaching other people to avoid future pitfalls," Goddard said. "They aren't going to get their kids back like I did. The bottom line is we need people to not trip over the same things that Virginia Tech tripped over."

In its voluminous report on the shootings, an eight-member panel appointed by Kaine found that the counseling center and a team of officials that dealt with troubled students failed to provide needed support and services to Cho in late 2005 and early 2006.

The panel blamed the failures on inadequate resources, faulty interpretation of privacy laws and passivity and also noted that records of Cho's "minimal treatment" at the counseling center were missing.

Staff writer Greg Esposito and news researcher Belinda Harris contributed to this report


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Cho's sister works or worked for McNeil Technologies...a sister company of Dyncorp.

Both companies are owned by Vertias Capital....Veritas is run by a Jesuit.

The whole episode stinks to high heaven.

The doctor, who had Cho's files, is heavily into hypnosis. Here is his resume http://www.apapo.org/DrRobertMiller/attach/resume.pdf

I know people who work at Va Tech...in facilities management....who are avid hunters...who had to fix the windows and repair the bullet holes....they say there is no way one shooter did all that damage....and the bullet count, the number of shots the police said was fired by Cho, is only about 1/3 of the amount of holes that had to be fixed.


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