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Of course, after the 17 Questions article in which Ben stated that he had plugged up the hole with foam again, we now know that he must have been less than truthful when he said that the DRAC folks looked down the hole and saw the tomb.


Where did Ben say that the DRAC looked down the hole to see the tomb?

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Here's a quote which sounds like either DRAC looked down the tomb hole, which Ben told Andrew was plugged with foam.

"I took them inside the cave being careful not to disturb the bushes around the entrance too much, and showed them where the shaft was that I had filmed through and what I thought was the direction of the original entrance
After examining the interior we all returned outside where they examined the surrounding rock formation "


So nothing about the DRAC looking down the hole to see the tomb then?

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Leo Vinci wrote:
STILL AVOIDING answering the questions:


Ben will be at the Arcadia Moot on 21st February, why don't you go along and put your questions (or should I say demands) to him there? I'm sure there will be many there who would welcome a face to face debate with you! Ben's never been afraid of facing his critics - are you?

By all accounts it's a bit of a do so I guess there won't be any Spam on the menu but I suppose you could bring your own tin and by the way you dish it out, I'm sure you have an ample supply!

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So nothing about the DRAC looking down the hole to see the tomb then?


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Right on cue - predictable as ever! :lol:

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Ben's never been afraid of facing


Bill Wilkinson should at least write a letter, or meet in person, the current French Minister of state, in charge of the cultural Affairs - Christine Albanel, to inform the person in French Government about this fantastic archaeological discovery!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Albanel

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Is Bill Wilkinson planning to do that?

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Ben's never been afraid of facing


Bill Wilkinson should at least write a letter, or meet in person, the current French Minister of state, in charge of the cultural Affairs - Christine Albanel, to inform the person in French Government about this fantastic archaeological discovery!

Is Bill Wilkinson planning to do that?

:lol:


You could ask Ben at the Moot!

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Let's face it, if this really was the real deal, the Ministre d’État, chargé des Affaires culturelles, would have acted officially in relation to the matter long ago!

:lol: :lol:


How long ago would that be then Leo? In 2007 perhaps when the tomb was reported to the DRAC and they took it seriously enough to pull their spelunkers off another project, many miles away, to have them travel a long distance to the Rennes-le-Château area to visit and survey the site. Would that be about the right time?

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Oh, I see, the Moot is more "important"!
Evading questions as per usual.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


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visit and survey the site


Funny that DRAC are not aware of such a "visit" and a "survey".
Then again, the "information" does not come from DRAC.
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Leo Vinci wrote:
Oh, I see, the Moot is more "important"!
:lol: :lol: :lol:


So are you going then?

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Still evading questions!
The Moot is more "important" than the French Minister for Cultural Affairs!

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Funny that DRAC are not aware of such a "visit" and a "survey".
Then again, the "information" does not come from DRAC.
:lol:


Yes they are and yes it does.!

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Funny that DRAC are not aware of such a "visit" and a "survey".
Then again, the "information" does not come from DRAC.
:lol:


Yes they are and yes it does.!

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DRAC don't know anything about it!
This sort of thing is commonly known as desperation!

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The Moot is more "important" than the French Minister for Cultural Affairs!


So you'll be there?

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I'll be with the French Minister for Culture waiting for Bill Wilkinson!

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Leo Vinci wrote:
DRAC don't know anything about it!
This sort of thing is commonly known as desperation!

:lol:


Yes they do and yes you are! :lol:

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VeryAngryMother wrote:
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The Moot is more "important" than the French Minister for Cultural Affairs!


So you'll be there?

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I'll be with the French Minister for Culture waiting for Bill Wilkinson!

:lol:


Seems a bit extreme just to avoid facing your critics! Does she know you're coming? By your own admission the DRAC have already ignored you once so I hope she doesn't do a Henry Lincoln on you! :lol:

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Here's the person that they are all avoiding and terribly afraid of.
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Here's the person that they are all avoiding and terribly afraid of.
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So you are suggesting that one should report an archeological discovery to the French Minister of state?

The Ministry of Culture is made up of a variety of internal divisions, including:

* Direction de l'administration générale (DAG)
* Direction de l'architecture et du patrimoine (DAPA) - in charge of tional monuments
* Direction des archives de France (DAF) - in charge of the National Archives
* Direction du livre et de la lecture (DLL) - in charge of French literature and the book trade
* Direction de la musique, de la danse, du théâtre et des spectacles (DMDTS) - in charge of music, dance and theater
* Direction des Musées de France (DMF) - in charge of the National museums

The Ministry also has access to the division :

* Direction du développement des médias (DDM) in charge of developing and expanding the French media (although French public television is run through the public-service company France Télévisions).

The Ministry also runs three "delegations" (administrative boards) :

* Délégation aux arts plastiques (DAP) - in charge of the visual and sculptural arts.
* Délégation au développement et aux affaires internationales (DDAI) - in charge of international affairs and French art
* Délégation générale à la langue française et aux langues de France (DGLFLF) - in charge of the French language and languages of France.

Finally, the Ministry shares in the management of the National Centre of Cinema (Centre national de la cinématographie), a public institution (go to their link here).

The Alliance française is run by the Minister of Foreign Affairs (France).

For more on the organization of the Ministry, see Ministry of Culture.

Other Services

On the national level, the Ministry also runs:

* Regional Cultural Affairs (Direction régionale des affaires culturelles - DRAC)
* Départemental Architecture and Monuments (Services départementaux de l'architecture et du patrimoine - SDAP)
* Départemental Archives under the direction of the Conseil Général of each département.
* Centre National de la Danse, institution for the study and preservation of dance[2]

Cultural Activities

The Ministry of Culture is responsible for, or a major sponsor of, a number of annual cultural activities, including:

* Fête de la Musique
* Avignon theater festival

The Tomb has been reported to the correct department - the DRAC. Reporting it to Christine Albanel would be like reporting a problem with your wage packet to the Chancellor of the Exchequer!

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Thoroughly enjoyable 17 question interview. I had been putting off purchasing Ben's book due to the huge stack that is already haunting me at my bedside...... but after this interview I have been charmed into making the purchase and reading it immediately. Mr. Hammott gets a big thumbs up from me. :)

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VeryAngryMother wrote:
The Tomb has been reported to the correct department - the DRAC.


Haven't heard anything about that from DRAC.
Where's the evidence?


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Reporting it to Christine Albanel would be like


Ministry of Culture runs the:

* Regional Cultural Affairs (Direction régionale des affaires culturelles - DRAC)

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VeryAngryMother wrote:
So you are suggesting that one should report an archeological discovery to the French Minister of state?


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Ministry of Culture runs the:

* Regional Cultural Affairs (Direction régionale des affaires culturelles - DRAC)


So would you suggest if my car gets stolen that I should report it to the Home Secretary instead of my local police station? :lol:

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So you are suggesting that one should report an archeological discovery to the French Minister of state?


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Ministry of Culture runs the:

* Regional Cultural Affairs (Direction régionale des affaires culturelles - DRAC)


So would you suggest if my car gets stolen that I should report it to the Home Secretary instead of my local police station? :lol:

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What is this rubbish?
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What is this rubbish?


Simply responding to your ridiculous suggestion that Ben should report his discovery to the French Minister for Culture!

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Not as stupid as the silly fake tomb itself

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