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Heavens........do you need some crusty faffy old art critic to tell you what it is you're looking at?....." citation " indeed. I bet he was the sort of old buffer that says "Crikey!" as well.

You obviously missed the whole point about the Mistletoe.

Thanks Paula, that will be good

You crack me up, Sheila!

Yeah, I guess under the circumstances I'd give more credence to an art expert than a chicken expert. Sorry.

TCP

What do you think might be in those secret herbs and spices, Roger? And who do you think might have been smoking them?

TCP

Triviality guys....obviously for you lot you're so dyed in the wool something or other that you don't have eyes to see. I just might give up!

It's a defecating egg with the head and feet of a chicken.
There are more sources that say the same thing.

I don't give a flying wassname for what "other sources" say, they are probably university proffesors/Daily Mail readers/believers in History books and such like.
I'm promoting common sense...nothing else.

Here "Roger" is referring to the world of "Isaac Ben Jacob", not to the world of established scholarship that will avoid "Isaac Ben Jacob".

No he's not....catch up Mr Norton.

Bird Lime...Herbe de la Croix...All Heal...the Golden Bough

Why dont you stick a chickens head & a pair of legs on that then.

Because chickens are allergic to Mistletoe.

Absolute rubbish as far as I know...you're making it up as you go along....this is not a Chicken discussion forum by the way.

(2) Effect of Korean mistletoe and its extract on productivity and
immune response in broiler chickens
This study examined the effects of Korean mistletoe (KM) and heating
extract from KM(HKM) on performance and immune response in broiler
chickens. A total of seven hundred twenty 1-d-old male broiler chicks were
divided into 6 groups with 4 replicates of 30 birds each. The treatments
were NC (antibiotics-free diet), PC(antibiotics), 0.5% KM(NC diet added 0.5%
of KM), 1.0% KM(NC diet added 1.0% of KM), 1000ppm HKM and 5,000ppm
HKM(for water additive) and the birds were on the experiment for 49 days.
There was no significant difference among the treatments in feed intake
and body weight gain. However, feed conversion rate was significantly
(P<0.05) lower in 0.5% KM compared with NC. On d 49, the relative weight
and length of small intestine of the KM 1.0% was increased (P<0.05)
compared with other groups. On d 35, the colony forming unit of Salmonella
spp. of ceca significantly (P<0.05) decreased by feeding KM and HKM. The
counts of lymphocyte and monocyte of KM and HKM were increased
(P<0.05) compared with PC. There were no significant difference among the
treatments in splenic IL-2 and IL-6 mRNA expression and nitric oxide
production of plasma.

"Aeneas, a young hero, enters the underworld by the power of the golden bough and the aid of the age-old Sybil as his guide. He enters this frightful place in search of his father to seek his guidance and advice. He finds him and receives his teachings concerning the cycles of life and death, which he had come for. Eventually he returns safely to the world of the living. But it is the Mistletoe that provides him with the key to his destiny and opens the gates to the transformational powers of the underworld from which he returns spiritually reborn"

Mistletoe for some - the mortification of the flesh through abstinence from food for others....

Sorry....don't get that....?

the druids made use of mistletoe's hallucinogenic properties in shamanic and healing ...

Thank you Mr Norton...at last.

If only Virgil would have known about that...

That's the bloke.....

"It is not a new opinion that the Golden Bough was the mistletoe. True, Virgil does not identify but only compares it with mistletoe. But this may be only a poetical device to cast a mystic glamour over the humble plant. Or, more probably, his description was based on a popular superstition that at certain times the mistletoe blazed out into a supernatural golden glory. The poet tells how two doves, guiding Aeneas to the gloomy vale in whose depth grew the Golden Bough, alighted upon a tree, ;whence shone a flickering gleam of gold. As in the woods in winter cold the mistletoe;a plant not native to its tree;is green with fresh leaves and twines its yellow berries about the boles; such seemed upon the shady holm-oak the leafy gold, so rustled in the gentle breeze the golden leaf.; Here Virgil definitely describes the Golden Bough as growing on a holm-oak, and compares it with the mistletoe. The inference is almost inevitable that the Golden Bough was nothing but the mistletoe seen through the haze of poetry or of popular superstition."

From "The Golden Bough" by James George Frazer.

Hmmmmmm.....no.

Common sense would dictate that the creature is a chicken of some sort, having the head and feet of a chicken. But look at the other creatures in the various paintings. All rather fantastic, illogical creatures representing demons "tempting" or tormenting St. Anthony. How much common sense is evident in these portrayals? They're intended to be nightmarish, absurd - defying logic. If you're looking for something simple or common in these paintings, you might want to try a different tack.

TCP

What, now it's a mistletoe berry with a chicken's head and feet defiling the water jug? That's common sense? You were doing better with a poussin, Sheila. Which came first, the chicken or the mistletoe? The ozone layer, or cheese in a spray can? Gawd, don't make me choose...

TCP