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Precisely. So what would make this symbolism stand out as something odd or out of place in a Catholic context?

TCP

And...? What's your take on the significance of this? Doesn't the "Light of the World" radiate?

TCP

The Blessed Sacrement

It's not going anywhere you superior wassname...I'm just a Shepherdess groping in the dark...as you well know.

What gives you the right......?

Yes, the Holy Eucharist, this time shown with Saint Barbara. Very common in Catholic imagery. Not surprising at all that one might find it depicted in Sauniere's church or in any other Catholic church.

TCP

Sainte Barbara & Saint Anthony of Padova both connected strongly with the Host..The Eucharist..The Mass....The Mass is the Eucharistic celebration in the Latin liturgical rites of the Roman Catholic Church.

Sainte Barbara is shown with the Chalice of HAPPY DEATH...The Viaticum...meaning "Provisions for a journey"

The word viaticum is a Latin word meaning "provisions for a journey," from via, or "way." The Eucharist is seen as the ideal food to strengthen a dying person for the journey from this world to life after death. It seems that originally the Eucharistic bread was placed in the mouth of the dead person so that he or she would have food for what the early Christians believed was a 3 day journey between this world and the next.

Okay Mr Smartypants...point me in what YOU think is the right direction...'cos I know what I feel ...& what I feel is usually right...My flock are well Shepherded and their lambs are safe & sound & bedded down for the night...I work from dawn to midnight to make sure my girls & their offsprings are warm, healthy & happy ....naturally.

My take on Consumerism, Money, Banks, people like you & all that crap means nothing to me.....
Point me in YOUR direction Matey Boy...& then let's talk...unless I'm completely below your radar!

'Scuse me...are you telling me the Viaticum no longer exists?

What the Hebrews had in figure, the Church has in reality – the Pascal meal and the Eucharist; the sacrifice of the Pascal lamb and the sacrifice of the Lamb of God.

Thanks.....get back to your party....I don't mean to come over all rude & abrassive, you just seem to bring out the worst in us girls.

Peace & Light

And I thought it was going to be a quiet night tonight



TCP - I really am quite well aware of the normal interpretation of the image of the seven seals on the Book of Revelation.
Haven't you noticed the wide assortment of sevens associated with the imagery linked to RLC. If you have not, others certainly have. I see them as all referring to the same thing.



A couple of points - apart from the obvious that anyone who has been on this forum for more than a week would recognise the author of the "neither heathen nor commoner" jibe.

1. Yes, this enigma has gone round in circles for years - and on this forum too. Have you not noticed that recently things have started to be pinned down and answered? Have you not noticed the 'esoteric' interpretation of the Shugborough inscription in the Theories section for instance? And it is about to get 'worse'!

2. As for my statement about things being answered. Have you not read the earlier posts in this thread linking various anomalies together and then methodically explaining them? Have you not followed the unravelling of the hidden meaning in the Teniers paintings? Maybe Sheila or I need to make the final conclusion clearer. I will willingly do that if necessary.

I would have thought it was self-evident that people rooted in the doctrine of the Church would be the ones to have the greatest difficulty with solving a series of puzzles of this type. Your comments hardly surprise me.

I must now be elsewhere for the rest of the evening but will look in tomorrow morning.

Oh no, not on New Year's Eve. Lots of fireworks.



Then why refer to them as "whatever-they-ares"...?



I've noticed valiant attempts, but no qualified results.



Ibid.



Given that I am about as far away from being "rooted" in Catholic doctrine as one can get, your conclusions regarding my comments don't ring true at all. Nice attempt at hedging, though.

TCP

Nice "hidden" attempt to explain the RLC secret. Funny to see that everyone can build a nice story about it by just picking out any slice from a standard pizza by trying to sell it then as the ultimate, most healthy and most tasty food one can get on earth. For people who are very hungry that may work.

For the ones who know how an entrecote double with a gratin dauphinois tastes, it will not work.

If some want to deliver fast food - do, but do it right and do not hide yourself behind the ketchup bottle. No need to do so as the level of how to prepare a real hungarian gulasch is anyway not reached.

Bon appetit!

RLC is not my subject....that's not where I was coming from. It would be nice however to get some serious comments from people who can actually follow a thread...in my opinion we would make a good team here on the forum if we all added our little bits of info together & headed off in the same direction instead of breaking up a chance of a serious discussion.

The only way is to completely ignore those who post simply to disrupt the thread. If everyone ignores them then the post will continue.

As a wiser lady than I recently pointed out to me that, as with a disruptive child, if you don't give them the attention they crave when they are being naughty then they will start to behave!

VAM

Well said.

Thats exactly what Sheila and I managed to do earlier on in this very thread. We achieved great results, with Sheila being able to crack the Poussin/Teniers link.
The meaning of BERGERE PAS DE TENTATION QUE POUSSIN TENIERS GARDENT LA CLEF has now been solved.
Adrian's geometry might well come into play later as well.

fmh999,

No one is saying the Poussin/Teniers explanation explains the whole RLC mystery. But it does explain the mind-set of some of the people involved. It should be looked on as a starter, not the main course.
Hopefully, if you are able to look on it as the opening dish only, then you will see that it is a suitable quality for your banquet.

If you want a taster of the feast to come then I suggest you start to read my web site. The section on the Glastonbury geometry is the highlight of the moment. It is written to be as digestible as possible as it is appreciated that geometry is not everyones favourite dish. The interpretation of the symbology contained within it should certainly give you food for thought - enough maybe to keep you well fed for the rest of the holiday. Bon appetit and let me know what you thought.

The Shugborough inscription, I accept, is not proven. I say so myself in my posts.
But .... everything fits together almost perfectly. Quite remarkable - especially given the nature of the interpretation.

As to the Teniers/Poussin solution - That is quite different. I see it as being a perfect example of applied research. (Read from the start of this thread to get the whole story.) Maybe you would care to point out where the solution falls down?

Geometry is key as I pointed out several times. Yes, one needs crayons to solve the secret.

On the other hand please forget about Poussin / Teniers being involved in the RLC story. Poussin is a completely different animal playing an important role in the environment / era of Chateaubriand, Balzac, etc. but has nothing to do with RLC.

Poussin/Teniers ARE involved in the RLC story simply because they feature in the clues encoded in the parchments.
It has now been shown what LE CLEF is: The release of the captives from the Underworld by means of spiritual enlightenment - the dove. As the inscription on the tomb is Et In Arcadia Ego, actually reading the words as written would seem to indicate WE are the ones in Arcadia.

THE KEY therefore seems to be that we need to understand that we are spiritually 'dead' and need to be rescued. Will unravelling the rest of the clues confirm this interpretation and maybe even help us to be rescued?
We are about to find out!

fmh999, Is it possible that instead of simply saying how much you know, you actually help to unravel the clues? Then you would prove how much you do actually know and not give the impression of simply being arrogant.

btw .... wasn't it Henry Lincoln who told us how important geometry is to solving the secret?

Yep, I can be an arrogant pain in the ass. Only one of my weaknesses, sorry for that.

On the other hand: if someone tells me to start by looking at his website to get into the topic. Well, nope, that's of course not arrogant.

OK, I think I showed some small things like the Visigothic pillar in the delacroix painting. I think I showed some interesting infos about the LVLC from Boudet. Only small things, I agree, only showing a very small part of the visible side of the iceberg.

Nearby just some more small things. Do what you want with it.

RECOURS A AXAT / RUMEUR DONNE / DALLE FABRIQUE / MON CANCER PASSE LE PIRE

EN CAS DE DECES / BERENGER AVISE / MAL GERE CLAT / PALMARES RENOVE

SAUNIERE GARDE NORME / RAGE FAIBLI / VASQUE ECRASE / EN PREMIER

LE TRESOR PORTE LES SIX COINS DU SCEAU DE SALOMON


-----H. Boudet-------

Created by Philippe de Cherisey for Gerard de Sede's 1967 book "L'Or de Rennes". And there wasn't a whiff of a Poussin/Teniers "connection" before Plantard and Co appeared knocking on the door.




After he ditched his "Jesus Bloodline" theory, and was inspired by David Wood's book "Genisis" to try out that routine...a sacred geometry tack was not that difficult for a former faith healer.

'Scuse me guys, can I step in here for a wee moment....All I said was that there happens to be a Poussin in these paintings by Teniers the younger.

And the relevance?
The Poussin/Teniers element is ficticious introduced by Plantard and Co.

I'm not talking about Poussin the person Mr Norton........

Why is there A POUSSIN in all of the paintings cited above....it's got bugger all to do with parchements & codes & all that clap-trap...there just happens to be a chick/poussin visible to the naked eye in the Teniers canvases....they have not been planted there in modern times now have they....There is undisputably a POUSSIN...not a POULE or a POULET but a POUSSIN.

Explain please.....