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 Post subject: The Red Stone in Tour Magdala
PostPosted: 03 Feb 2007 10:22 am 
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Hello I am Beauseant and new here!

Probably you all know that there is a red stone anomaly situated in the floor of Tour Magdala. The floor of Tour Magdala is made up by the same black pattern that appears 63 times. And then there is one pattern that has this red stone anomaly.

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Saunière must have had a purpose with this red stone, because it was not so that his workmen ran out of black tiles.
Last time I also saw a documentary where Antoine Captier claimed that there is a white equivalent of this stone in Saunière's orangery. Has anyone seen this white stone?

Can I know the opinion of my English friends on the subject?

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Which cardinal direction is the red part toward? And why 63 tiles instead of 64? How do you tile a square floor with an odd number of tiles? Just from the image alone, as you showed it, I can see that the red one is at the position of the angel Raphael in the church water stoup, assuming the red part is at North;

Numbers 2: "As the Holy One blessed be He created four winds (directions) and four banners (for Israel's army), so also did He make four angels to surround His Throne — Michael, Gabriel, Uriel and Raphael. Michael is on its right, corresponding to the tribe of Reuben; Uriel on its left, corresponding to the tribe of Dan, which was located in the north; Gabriel in front, corresponding to the tribe of Judah as well as Moses and Aaron who were in the east; and Raphael in the rare, corresponding to the tribe of Epharim which was in the west."

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Which cardinal direction is the red part toward? And why 63 tiles instead of 64? How do you tile a square floor with an odd number of tiles? Just from the image alone, as you showed it, I can see that the red one is at the position of the angel Raphael in the church water stoup, assuming the red part is at North;

Somebody on the Terug naar de Bron forum verified the cardinal direction of the red stone, but I cannot check it because one is migrating the forum to a new hosting company.

In fact the square floor is made up by 64 tile-patterns, jb1717. 63 of them have the black pattern + the one with the strange red pattern. It is just like a big chessboard.

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Aha, very good. Now look at the floor as a chessboard and see what position the tile with the red is. Say, for instance, it is on a knight's position. That would be interesting. The circular pattern reminds me of the round base of a chess piece and the black part of the design looks like the top of a queen (four times).
I mentioned the four angels in the water stoup earlier. I found this image of Bacchus by Michelangelo. Notice the same downward pointing finger as Gabriel (bottom) in the stoup decoration.

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Andy talks about this tile in an article on this site Catch 22 http://www.andrewgough.co.uk/catch22.html

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An anomalous tile on the floor of the Tour Magdela points up a 22 step stone staircase where a lone window points unambiguously at a grotto, approximately a mile in the distance.


I never knew there were 64 pieces. If it is a chessboard then this piece at the edge would represent the castle wouldn't it? That would be quite fitting considering the floor sits within the Tour Magdala, which looks like a castle itself. Also, the pattern on the tile itself does look rather like a castle! Perhaps it is an allusion to the chess move known as castling? Anyone got any ideas about that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castling

What I find most interesting about this is that it seems to echo something from Ancient Egypt known as the missing 1/64. This is the belief that only Osiris could be the Absolute and that everything else was imperfect. So we have a missing 1/64. It is quite a magical concept and is also linked with the Eye of Horus, where each of the parts of the eye actually add up to 63/64 and so we have the missing 1/64. Some monuments seem to have this concept built into them, such as the Great Pyramid that people believe was never completed at the top - missing 1/64. So, I found it intriguing that here in the Tour Magdala we supposedly have 63 black tiles and 1 red one...in effect a representation of this missing 1/64.

Is it documented anywhere that there are 64 tiles in that room becuase it almost seems too perfect!

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If it is in the corner, where the rook would be, then it probably means "go straight ahead". Which would mean up the stairs to spy the grotto. I guess it's more subtle than a big arrow.
Now here are some blue apples for you, Artifice.

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These are grapes; http://www.connectotel.com/rennes/pb.html


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The red thing sort of resembles this niche inside the triangle grotto, upside down.

http://www.andrewgough.co.uk/Niche-insi ... Grotto.jpg


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Beauseant wrote:
Hello I am Beauseant and new here!

Probably you all know that there is a red stone anomaly situated in the floor of Tour Magdala. The floor of Tour Magdala is made up by the same black pattern that appears 63 times. And then there is one pattern that has this red stone anomaly.

Image

Saunière must have had a purpose with this red stone, because it was not so that his workmen ran out of black tiles.
Last time I also saw a documentary where Antoine Captier claimed that there is a white equivalent of this stone in Saunière's orangery. Has anyone seen this white stone?

Can I know the opinion of my English friends on the subject?


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The Red Serpent

Taurus
Thanks to him, from now on with a watchful eye I could make steady progress. I can find the 64 scattered stones of the perfect cube which the Brothers of the BEAUTY of the black wood had scattered when they fled from the white fort while they were being pursued by the usurpers.

Gemini
Reassemble the scattered stones and, working with square and compass, put them back in order; find the line of the meridian in going from East to West, then looking from South to the North and finally in all directions to find the looked-for solution. Station yourself in front of the fourteen stones making a cross. The circle is the ring and crown and the crown forms the diadem of the QUEEN of the Castle.

Cancer
The Mosaic tiles of this sacred place alternate black or white and JESUS, like ASMODEUS observes their alignments. I seem incapable of seeing the summit of the secret place of the Sleeping Beauty. Not being HERCULES with magical power how do I solve the mysterious symbols engraved by the witnesses of the past. In the sanctuary however, is the font, fountain of love, of those who believe reminding us of these words 'BY THIS SIGN YOU WILL CONQUER'.

Le Serpent Rouge

Taureau
"Grâce à lui, désormais à pas mesurés et d'un oeil sur, je puis decouvrir les soixante-quatre pierres dispersées du cube parfait que les Frères de la BELLE du bois noir échappant à la poursuite des usurpateurs, avaient semées en route quant ils s'enfuirent du Fort blanc."

Gemeaux
"Rassembler les pierres éparses, oeuvrer de l'équerre et du compas pour les remettre en order régulier, chercher la ligne du méridien en allant de l'Orient à l'Occident, puis regardant du Midi au Nord, enfin en tous sens pour obtenir la solution cherchée, faisant station devant les quatorze pierres marquées d'une croix. Le cercle étant l'anneau et couronne, et lui le diadème de cette REINE du Castel"


Cancer
"Les dalles du pavé mosaïque du lieu sacré pouvaient-être alternativement blanches ou noires, et JESUS, comme ASMODEE observer leurs alignments , ma vue semblait incapable de voir le sommet où demeurait cachée la merveilleuse endormie. N'étant pas HERCULE à la puissance magique, comment déchiffrer les mystérieux symboles gravés par les observateurs du passé. Dans le sanctuaire pourtant le bénitier, fontaine d'amour des croyants redonne mémoire de ces mots : PAR CE SIGNE TU le VAINCRAS."


I suppose another name could be the Cardinal Serpent

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Good find, Roscoe. Unfortunately, since le Serpent Rouge was only published in 1967 some people will say that it is all part of the "hoax".

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Then, in March of 1967, still another document was deposited/published with the Bibliotheque Nationale. It was entitled Le serpent rouge, and this one had three authors: Messieurs de Koker, Saint-Maxent and Feugere. There is some disagreement over the date on which, after the necessary red tape had been gone through, the document was considered to be officially "published." The Depot legal states March 20th, but Lincoln et al gave it as January 17. This matter was investigated by another researcher, Franck Marie, who claims to have established the date of February 15. Whatever the date of deposit, it is a fact that Louis Saint-Maxent and Gaston de Koker were found hanged on 6 March, and Pierre Feugere the following day.


I found this illustration from LSR interesting. Notice that although Prae Cum is at the left end of the arrow, PS is not at the other end. Instead, there is some other characters which look like an M and a C or sideways Omega symbol.
What do suppose that means and if this is all part of a hoax then why make the PS Prae Cum different in LSR than on the Blanchefort dalle?

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MC - could it stand for Meridien clericale? My copy may be a little clearer than yours for it says Prez-cum at the other end - not Prae-cum'. I suspect the meaning is the same though.


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