Is there more to Girona?

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 7021

TCP wrote:

roscoe wrote:

But it is myth we are dealing with here. We are trying to ascertain what it was that prompted people to give large amounts of money to Sauniere.

We are trying to figure out what they BELIEVED which of course may not necessarily be the truth.

If you want confirmation for everything then I can guarantee failure awaits you.

So who was it giving Sauniere money?

Those with Gnostic beliefs, those with esoteric beliefs or those who think Christ walked on water, turned water into wine and was born of a Virgin.

The latter is of course absolutely true as it comes under the widely accepted general ruling and is therefore carved in granite and therefore true. Unless you are one of those who think the children of Moses are Red Sea pedestrians or that Mohammad took a very fast bike ride to Jedda :wink:

So under what circumstances would you part with your hard earned cash and give it to a back-woods priest in the Languedoc?

Roscoe, perhaps you may trying to figure all this out, but I am not. I'm quite satisfied that this part of the "enigma" was uncovered long ago, and it had nothing to do with esotericism or Gnosticism, but good, old fashioned Catholic traditionalist/legitimist politics. It may not be what RLC enthusiasts want to hear, but to me it's the only explanation wherein all the pieces fit.

TCP

Oh good

Bye Bye

You still there?

tingra · **Posted:** 21 Aug 2008 7:55 pm

Andy has aked me to stick this posting into the Girona thead (at least i think he means this one

)

When I was in Girona we stopped several times for a drink in Le Arc bar at the bottom of the cathedral steps. On one of those occasions I had a conversation with a French couple who were there on holiday, I said we had just been up to the French woman’s garden for the 3rd time that day as I found the place extremely beautiful but at the same time extremely intimidating…….the woman said (and this was in broken English but very understandable) “that is because the crown of thorn’s and the arc were once kept there!!!!!! .
After this conversation my husband banned me from speaking to anyone because he said I attract loonies everywhere we go………

Roger Hi
in your opinion is Girona relevent the sacred deposit/secret?
I was also wondering if those authors you spoke about a while ago are near to publishing thier work on Girona yet?

jakeabf · **Posted:** 27 Aug 2008 2:47 pm

I came across several websites discussing 'relics'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_Thorns
http://www.templarhistory.com/cross.html
http://www.apostolateforholyrelics.com/ ... sion-tour/
http://imagesofheaven.org/Relics/RelicMain.html
http://www.ichrusa.com/saintsalive/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 525151.ece
http://mythandhope.blogspot.com/2008/05 ... magic.html
http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/forbes/ ... 9/140.html
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Holocaust/holy.htm

crimson_dove · **Joined:** 25 Jul 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1468

tingra wrote:

Hi Richard
I have already read Happy Hour and I have to say that I was really disappointed with the book compared to City of Secrets, I realise that an author uses artistic licence when describing there subjects etc, but in these two books it is as if Patrice used her descriptions and conversations from Happy Hour and re deployed them in City of Secrets……if you read the book you will see where I am coming from and descriptions and conversations will sound familiar to you although they are regarding different people and places etc. To be honest it is as if she couldn’t be bothered to make up new conversations etc and by doing that I lost belief in City of Secrets. She uses the same description for the Spaniard (Jose in Happy Hour as she does for the priest in City of Secrets and the same goes for other people and and conversations. Having said that I am still convinced that there is more to Girona/Spain yet to be discovered and I am hoping that the other material that she didn’t use in her book will be published. I love Girona and spend many hours around the French woman’s garden and up and down all the narrow streets, I think it is a fascinating place and would love to know more about it .

I had posted this in another thread but shall repost here.

I spent the week-end reading City of Secrets.
I had such difficulty following her write. It was all over the place and inconsistent (in that some of it was really bad writing and other parts were more coherent). Is it just me?

Her message was lost in the discordant confusion. In fact, the energies were highly 'discordant' and left me rather upset. I will refrain from reading any more from her. Sorry Patrice...

just me,
Paula
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crimson_dove · **Joined:** 25 Jul 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1468

crimson_dove wrote:

tingra wrote:

Hi Richard
I have already read Happy Hour and I have to say that I was really disappointed with the book compared to City of Secrets, I realise that an author uses artistic licence when describing there subjects etc, but in these two books it is as if Patrice used her descriptions and conversations from Happy Hour and re deployed them in City of Secrets……if you read the book you will see where I am coming from and descriptions and conversations will sound familiar to you although they are regarding different people and places etc. To be honest it is as if she couldn’t be bothered to make up new conversations etc and by doing that I lost belief in City of Secrets. She uses the same description for the Spaniard (Jose in Happy Hour as she does for the priest in City of Secrets and the same goes for other people and and conversations. Having said that I am still convinced that there is more to Girona/Spain yet to be discovered and I am hoping that the other material that she didn’t use in her book will be published. I love Girona and spend many hours around the French woman’s garden and up and down all the narrow streets, I think it is a fascinating place and would love to know more about it .

I had posted this in another thread but shall repost here.

I spent the week-end reading City of Secrets.
I had such difficulty following her write. It was all over the place and inconsistent (in that some of it was really bad writing and other parts were more coherent). Is it just me?

Her message was lost in the discordant confusion. In fact, the energies were highly 'discordant' and left me rather upset. I will refrain from reading any more from her. Sorry Patrice...

just me,
Paula
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and this one...

I would not say that she is a bad writer...no. I agree that there are "nuggets" within the read.

By discordant energies, I mean that I could feel that this information that you say she was being encouraged to include, was not coming from a ah, "good intention" (not on her part...i think that she is lovely)...this is my intuition. I do not know why this information "needs" to be expressed to all except to say that in some way, it is for power's sake. Those encouraging her to disclose information that she herself does not understand, are using her. No?

She was not ready to receive all of this...she did not escort her love to his destiny. Her love is real and so is her fear.

It is difficult to express in language what transcends words. I could feel for her throughout and hence, within her, she felt that discordance..."good or bad?"

just me,
Paula

tingra · **Posted:** 28 Oct 2008 6:26 pm

Hi Paula
I have read City of Secrets a few times and still don’t really understand it……perhaps we (normal Joe public) aren’t meant to understand it, perhaps the hidden messages in the book are for the initiated only…….are there any hidden messages in the book?

I have said on previous posts that Girona is a very strange place and to be honest although I love the place it is a bit creepy and has a kind of atmosphere, but then again don’t all old places like that?

When the old jewish part was rediscovered by Jose all those years ago it was buried beneath the newer parts of the old town, you notice this more when you are actually in the museum because the main part is on the level and the excavations were far below that. I mention this because as I mentioned in the La Sang post there is prop ably some kind of necropolis below the ground. Whether Jose knew about this prior to the excavations for the jewish centre or came across the jewish ruins while searching for the necropolis is another matter. Whatever the secret is regarding Girona and this “secret society” mentioned in the book I feel sure it has something to do with this subterranean “crypt” (for want of a better word). Jose alludes to the stones and earth all the time in the book and they are the really important things.. If this is the case we need to ask ourselves why are these necropolises so important in all of the stories regarding RLC, Perillos, Bugarach, Canigou etc? apart from burial places. The obvious answer (apart from straight forward grave robbing) is worship. Some cults/fraternities etc use these crypts for there initiation ceremonies as do some religious orders……..I recently read an article regarding the Jesuits and how the first 7 members of this order met in a crypt in St Denis chapel in Paris, IF this account is true!!!! Why meet in a crypt? Is there something in the crypt, perhaps a relic that needs to be used for initiation purposes or just the dead perhaps?
In Andys questing in Girona article he mentions La Sanch and how there are small figures dotted around the place like small idols……I saw a few of those in the Le Arc bar at the bottom of the cathedral steps and have a photograph like the one Andy shows, he has lots of interesting La Sanch pictures from Girona.
La Sanch is very prominent in Girona and is more than likely the so called secret society alluded to by Patrice. La Sanch is a penitent fraternity and they celebrated the cult in subterranean necropolis under churches etc. In the book COS, uniting North and South comes up regularly, perhaps the Girona society is sending a message to the Perpignan society, perhaps the Girona society wants the “secret” to be made public and by getting Patrice to write the book are forcing the issue. IF Saunier did go to Girona perhaps he was trying to unite the North and South in this regard. It would be interesting to know what letters etc in the book were actually genuine and which were fakes.
Do the Girona and Perpignan societies have any contact with each other and are politics involved …..bad history? Jose mentions politics a lot in the book and French and Catalan politics is a very complicated affair.
La Sanch is impossible to research and in this context it really is a Secret Society.
People disappear when they get involved in this secret society (Patrices research assistant, Gloria/Lucia) and Luis ended up in a permanent coma after a hit and run.
It is also associated with the Arma Christi, why is that so important? Is it just the instruments of torture that are important or do they have knowledge of or hold an important relic? Could the sacred deposit that Roger and Irmine talked about have anything to do with all of this and if so is it the object they call the Grail in the book.
A Spanish society has been mentioned a few times on Societe Perillos recently in various articles where they have received information from this group on certain matters regarding research that has been carried out, one cant help but wonder if this is the Girona society.
Is it good or bad?.......i hope that because everything in this mystery has to do with the church or priests, they are doing what they are doing for GOOD reasons.......Time will tell.
And as for the towers, could they not be just straight forward watch towers? the view from both would have been spectacular and if a location had to be watched then it would be the best way to do it without anyone knowing.

TCP · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2008 4:53 am

Roger wrote:

As TCP said, it's really a matter dealing with two things: a religious war, and also a monarchic divine-authority war. The two are intimately related, although the various parties have their own approaches and agendas and motivations. These wars have been going on for centuries and don't have much to do with RLC, or the heavily-laden history of the area and its necropolis (plural, in the region), priests and/or material treasure (there are also several known to be in the area, some partially salvaged, some not) except for the fact that an important object ended up in RLC (because of its history) and that object is extremely important to those parties.

To further add to the confusion, some of the parties, over the centuries, have sprouted degenerescent esoteric societies and/or attracted the attention of sects that are always seeking to legitimize themselves by grafting some legend or tradition or whatever into their "family tree". (Masonic sects are notorious for this). Hence, you have all manner of weirdos, sectarians, esotericists, masonic fringe lunatics, grail-seeking new-agers, etc. self-inserted into the mix and creating irrelevant diversions.

La Sang and La Sanch, while not being the be-all and end-all of the religious factions implicated here, are a visible and important illustration of the sectarian/heretic component of the involved parties.

Similarly, the "party of the Emperor" is always somewhere not too far from the action.

That's actually a very balanced assessment, one that I can concur with.

TCP

M Norton · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2008 1:18 pm

Roger wrote:

an important object ended up in RLC (because of its history) and that object is extremely important to those parties.

Another conspiracy theory.

Roger wrote:

you have all manner of weirdos, sectarians, esotericists, masonic fringe lunatics, grail-seeking new-agers, etc. self-inserted into the mix

Followers and/or creators of conspiracy theories.

crimson_dove · **Joined:** 25 Jul 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1468

tingra wrote:

Hi Paula
I have read City of Secrets a few times and still don’t really understand it……perhaps we (normal Joe public) aren’t meant to understand it, perhaps the hidden messages in the book are for the initiated only…….are there any hidden messages in the book?

I have said on previous posts that Girona is a very strange place and to be honest although I love the place it is a bit creepy and has a kind of atmosphere, but then again don’t all old places like that?

When the old jewish part was rediscovered by Jose all those years ago it was buried beneath the newer parts of the old town, you notice this more when you are actually in the museum because the main part is on the level and the excavations were far below that. I mention this because as I mentioned in the La Sang post there is prop ably some kind of necropolis below the ground. Whether Jose knew about this prior to the excavations for the jewish centre or came across the jewish ruins while searching for the necropolis is another matter. Whatever the secret is regarding Girona and this “secret society” mentioned in the book I feel sure it has something to do with this subterranean “crypt” (for want of a better word). Jose alludes to the stones and earth all the time in the book and they are the really important things.. If this is the case we need to ask ourselves why are these necropolises so important in all of the stories regarding RLC, Perillos, Bugarach, Canigou etc? apart from burial places. The obvious answer (apart from straight forward grave robbing) is worship. Some cults/fraternities etc use these crypts for there initiation ceremonies as do some religious orders……..I recently read an article regarding the Jesuits and how the first 7 members of this order met in a crypt in St Denis chapel in Paris, IF this account is true!!!! Why meet in a crypt? Is there something in the crypt, perhaps a relic that needs to be used for initiation purposes or just the dead perhaps?
In Andys questing in Girona article he mentions La Sanch and how there are small figures dotted around the place like small idols……I saw a few of those in the Le Arc bar at the bottom of the cathedral steps and have a photograph like the one Andy shows, he has lots of interesting La Sanch pictures from Girona.
La Sanch is very prominent in Girona and is more than likely the so called secret society alluded to by Patrice. La Sanch is a penitent fraternity and they celebrated the cult in subterranean necropolis under churches etc. In the book COS, uniting North and South comes up regularly, perhaps the Girona society is sending a message to the Perpignan society, perhaps the Girona society wants the “secret” to be made public and by getting Patrice to write the book are forcing the issue. IF Saunier did go to Girona perhaps he was trying to unite the North and South in this regard. It would be interesting to know what letters etc in the book were actually genuine and which were fakes.
Do the Girona and Perpignan societies have any contact with each other and are politics involved …..bad history? Jose mentions politics a lot in the book and French and Catalan politics is a very complicated affair.
La Sanch is impossible to research and in this context it really is a Secret Society.
People disappear when they get involved in this secret society (Patrices research assistant, Gloria/Lucia) and Luis ended up in a permanent coma after a hit and run.
It is also associated with the Arma Christi, why is that so important? Is it just the instruments of torture that are important or do they have knowledge of or hold an important relic? Could the sacred deposit that Roger and Irmine talked about have anything to do with all of this and if so is it the object they call the Grail in the book.
A Spanish society has been mentioned a few times on Societe Perillos recently in various articles where they have received information from this group on certain matters regarding research that has been carried out, one cant help but wonder if this is the Girona society.
Is it good or bad?.......i hope that because everything in this mystery has to do with the church or priests, they are doing what they are doing for GOOD reasons.......Time will tell.
And as for the towers, could they not be just straight forward watch towers? the view from both would have been spectacular and if a location had to be watched then it would be the best way to do it without anyone knowing.

Wow Tingra...what a wonderful post! I had wished to reply earlier but the drama has been too distracting... :oops:

Apologies.

Truthfully, if there are any hidden messages within the book, only understood by Initiates...I would not know. I am not an Initiate.

If I were able to travel to Girona, I am fairly sure that I would appreciate Patrice's book much more. It did though, disturb me. Maybe it is due in part, to my physical state at this time (ill with cancer). Maybe it is due in part to what I have experienced in places like Arkathea, Greece. I cannot say for sure.

I do know that Roger seems to have provide more information and 'hints' for us. I just wish someone would by-pass all of the "hinting" and just lay the cards out straight...for us regular folk. Then, if there are misunderstandings, it would not be in part due...to all of the "ellipitical dancing".

Just Thoughts...
Paula

M Norton · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2008 4:27 pm

Yes, plenty of elliptical obfuscation and talking round and round in circles about nothing here. And what spiritual codswallop baggage some people have!

crimson_dove · **Joined:** 25 Jul 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1468

M Norton wrote:

Yes, plenty of elliptical obfuscation and talking round and round in circles about nothing here. And what spiritual codswallop baggage some people have!

Wow! I cannot read this post of yours, quickly, out-loud...ten times in a row!
What big words!

Blessings,
Paula

tingra · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2008 9:55 pm

M Norton wrote:

Yes, plenty of elliptical obfuscation and talking round and round in circles about nothing here. And what spiritual codswallop baggage some people have!

If you think its all codswallop why do you waste your time on this forum?

I personally enjoy the banter on the forum and I have now become obsessed with history and all that entails. I am finding things out through research that fascinate me and as far as I am concerned that is a good thing. I am not into religion or new age stuff but you can’t even begin to understand this mystery without trawling your way through all the crap that has been inferred here first. A blind man on a galloping horse can see that something has gone and prophably is still going on in RLC and Girona, but if you really don’t believe that then that is your prerogative……just leave us to it.

M Norton · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2008 9:58 pm

tingra wrote:

obsessed with history and all that entails

Then read History.
Take a History Course.

tingra · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2008 10:25 pm

crimson_dove wrote:

M Norton wrote:

Yes, plenty of elliptical obfuscation and talking round and round in circles about nothing here. And what spiritual codswallop baggage some people have!

Wow! I cannot read this post of yours, quickly, out-loud...ten times in a row!
What big words!

Blessings,
Paula

Hi Paula
I felt like you do a while ago and found it frustrating that no one would just come right out and say what it was all about, but to be honest with you, now that I have researched so much and as I said trawled through so much rubbish I think I would feel cheated if I didn’t work it out for myself.
Roger gave us a hint a while back regarding the Labarum and oriflamme and this has become another obsession with me (oh my god, what a geek I am turning into). You can’t even begin to research these things without learning French history all way back to the year dot and even then it’s so confusing because Religious and monarchic politics are really complicated and entwined with each other and it really gets frustrating when you read so many different versions of the same events etc. I know more about battles and battle plans and war than my husband does and I think he has ordered me some miniature soldiers for Christmas!!!!! :lol:

The Oriflamme has been such an important object throughout the years that I am now beginning to think that perhaps it is the sacred deposit.
Anyway….If you do ever get a chance to go to Girona (the old part) you will love it, it really is a magical place.

tingra · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2008 10:28 pm

M Norton wrote:

tingra wrote:

obsessed with history and all that entails

Then read History.
Take a History Course.

I AM reading history and i AM doing a history course.

tingra · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2008 10:10 pm

Roger wrote:

Tingra, I can see you're honing in on the correct track.

What tends to confuse people is that so many parties have inserted themselves into the matter.

As TCP said, it's really a matter dealing with two things: a religious war, and also a monarchic divine-authority war. The two are intimately related, although the various parties have their own approaches and agendas and motivations. These wars have been going on for centuries and don't have much to do with RLC, or the heavily-laden history of the area and its necropolis (plural, in the region), priests and/or material treasure (there are also several known to be in the area, some partially salvaged, some not) except for the fact that an important object ended up in RLC (because of its history) and that object is extremely important to those parties.

To further add to the confusion, some of the parties, over the centuries, have sprouted degenerescent esoteric societies and/or attracted the attention of sects that are always seeking to legitimize themselves by grafting some legend or tradition or whatever into their "family tree". (Masonic sects are notorious for this). Hence, you have all manner of weirdos, sectarians, esotericists, masonic fringe lunatics, grail-seeking new-agers, etc. self-inserted into the mix and creating irrelevant diversions.

La Sang and La Sanch, while not being the be-all and end-all of the religious factions implicated here, are a visible and important illustration of the sectarian/heretic component of the involved parties.

Similarly, the "party of the Emperor" is always somewhere not too far from the action.

I might be on the right track but i am completely lost in the fog :lol:

richard.webster · **Posted:** 04 Nov 2008 8:15 am

tingra wrote:

I might be on the right track but i am completely lost in the fog :lol:

Likewise, and I reckon you're probably a lot further down it than I am, too. Thinking about some of the hints provided, the idea that this involves some sort of schism in Catholicism, warring factions, the reference to "the party of the Emperor", etc., I'm wondering if maybe a profitable avenue of inquiry, or at least some worthwhile further reading, might be to look more closely into the various anti-papacies through history, including those that were based in Avignon in the 14th and 15th centuries.

I'm trying to see what books one might most usefully read to get a better grasp of this, so when I find anything that looks suitable I'll let you know. Likewise, if anyone knows of an in-print, serious and reliable (and preferably readable) account of this period of history, I should be grateful to hear about it.

M Norton · **Posted:** 04 Nov 2008 1:34 pm

tingra wrote:

I might be on the right track but i am completely lost in the fog :lol:

That's the whole point.
Any book like "City of Secrets" that lacks intention, plot and purpose is designed at confusing the reader - whilst at the same time promising what it cannot ever possibly deliver.

tingra · **Posted:** 04 Nov 2008 7:04 pm

M Norton wrote:

tingra wrote:

I might be on the right track but i am completely lost in the fog :lol:

That's the whole point.
Any book like "City of Secrets" that lacks intention, plot and purpose is designed at confusing the reader - whilst at the same time promising what it cannot ever possibly deliver.

It is obviously not just an autobiography or novel is it?
If you listen to Patrice’s interview on radio renaissance you don’t get the impression that she is an idiot and has been used or duped OR manipulated in any way….so why did she write the book?

She has used the cabala to try and tie everything in and give the book a purpose, but that just doesn’t explain anything at all and therefore you have to read between the lines. She tells us herself the reason that she has written the book is because the “society” wanted certain things to be made public, but she also tells us that others in the “society” wanted things to remain hidden…….that is why the book is confusing.

I think I understand the intention, plot and purpose of the book……but it is just my own opinion and I realise that not everyone will reach the same conclusions as I have.

When I say I am lost in the fog, I mean in the sense that everything I research is a hard slog and making sense of it all is not easy. I have never been interested in politics or religion and these two things are entwined in all aspects of this mystery so I am basically re educating myself as I go along.

John Harper · **Joined:** 28 May 2007 8:46 pm **Posts:** 841

Mr Norton

Upon what do you base your dismissive opinion? Is it your respected research; your reputed knowledge, or your esteemed publications? Or might it be your zealous religious beliefs?

Quote:

You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character...

John

M Norton · **Posted:** 04 Nov 2008 7:24 pm

Roger wrote:

Quote:

If you listen to Patrice’s interview on radio renaissance you don’t get the impression that she is an idiot and has been used or duped OR manipulated in any way….so why did she write the book?

Actually, Patrice admits to being baffled as to the number of badly faked photographs that she was fed... So that opens up a plethora of questions as to what is interwoven with the auto-biographical material and who "fed" her the fakes and to what purpose? All in all, an interesting little intrigue, beyond the intrigue related in the book itself.

The book has obviously been produced FOR the Market of People who believe that there is an "enigma" to Rennes-le-Chateau BY THE people who believe there is an "enigma" to Rennes-le-Chateau.

The Torre Magdala in Girona was the obvious opening gambit that served as inspiration.

M Norton · **Posted:** 04 Nov 2008 7:26 pm

John Harper wrote:

zealous religious beliefs

I have no "zealous religious beliefs".

If I repeat Sauniere's sermons, or describe his demonstrable activities, that is Sauniere - not "me".

tingra · **Posted:** 04 Nov 2008 7:58 pm

richard.webster wrote:

tingra wrote:

I might be on the right track but i am completely lost in the fog :lol:

Likewise, and I reckon you're probably a lot further down it than I am, too. Thinking about some of the hints provided, the idea that this involves some sort of schism in Catholicism, warring factions, the reference to "the party of the Emperor", etc., I'm wondering if maybe a profitable avenue of inquiry, or at least some worthwhile further reading, might be to look more closely into the various anti-papacies through history, including those that were based in Avignon in the 14th and 15th centuries.

I'm trying to see what books one might most usefully read to get a better grasp of this, so when I find anything that looks suitable I'll let you know. Likewise, if anyone knows of an in-print, serious and reliable (and preferably readable) account of this period of history, I should be grateful to hear about it.

Hi Richard
I am reading a great book about Napoleon III at the minute……something I wouldn’t have dreamt about reading at one time…. :shock:

I find the best thing to do is pick a subject and research it until your brain is frazzled, I am still doing the oriflamme and saint Denis’s and all that entails. This subject has been a real eye opener for me and everyday I find a new aspect that sends me off into another direction and I have to reign myself back in. I started with Constantine so I haven’t gotten very far really.
As for Girona, I really just read between the lines of COS because I can picture the places that she talks about because I have been there and it is exactly as she describes it. Catalan politics at the time were complicated to say the least and the influence of the church has always had a huge bearing on the lives of the people involved. I really don’t think the Cabala has anything to do with the secret that Patrice alludes to although it was obviously important hundreds of years ago when the Jewish settlement was there. The thing that really intrigues me is the French woman, who was she? What was she? Why was she exiled to Paris? Why was she so important?
Its this kind of thing I find frustrating because we don’t know her real name so its impossible to find out more about her……..she must have been important because the garden is still called “ the garden of the French woman” why is that I wonder?
anyway......i am glad i am not the only one that thinks there is more to Girona. :lol:

M Norton · **Posted:** 04 Nov 2008 8:01 pm

tingra wrote:

French woman, who was she? What was she? Why was she exiled to Paris? Why was she so important?

tingra wrote:

don’t know her real name so its impossible to find out more about her

Bingo.

tingra · **Posted:** 04 Nov 2008 8:21 pm

M Norton wrote:

tingra wrote:

French woman, who was she? What was she? Why was she exiled to Paris? Why was she so important?

tingra wrote:

don’t know her real name so its impossible to find out more about her

Bingo.

go to Girona, go to the garden, take a look around the cathederal, speak to the locals......read the book again and then you might understand it was written for a reason.
Patrice Chaplin is not a bad writer SO why did she write this book in this way......who held the puppet strings?

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