Arcadia Discussion Zone

I was just wondering how sure people are in respect to the locations in the RLC area. I see a lot of emphasis on the Mount Cardou region from what I've read aswell as the tomb location near Peyrolles (Pontils).
My main question I suppose is what are people looking for in these regions, are they looking for Arcadia itself, a tomb, cave or something else?

Take your pick James, from the Tomb of the Great Roman, the Ark of the Covenant, treasure of the Visigoths or of Blanche de Castile, the Menora or another object from Solomons Temple, Knights Templar treasure or secrets of the Cathars, the Head of John the Baptist, the body of JC or Mary Magdalene and everything else including the kitchen sink
Depending on the author the "treasure" changes, with new ones being included at regular intervals. Sorry I can't be more specific
Regards
Nic

And Hotspur`s Golden Salami Nic, you forgot the Holy Grail, unless it`s one of the things you mentioned.

Hey Hottie,
What kind of Salami do you prefer?
I'm a fan of the peppered variety with a nice chilled Chiroubles.
TD

IMO - I've actually asked for information about the mining activities in the area but received no response so I hope you'll forgive me for getting a bit confused in relation to the geography.
I'll come back to your question in a little bit.

Firstly I want to ask where you've ascertained your information for instance what books have you read and what do you believe is the most viable conclusion of Mt. Cardou's role?

Hi Rain,
I've read quite a few posts on this particular forum where people have mentioned Cardou and Blanchfort as being related to the landscapes in the Poussin paintings. People in general seem to be trying to relate to the geography of the RLC area, probably to find 'the key' mentioned in one of the parchments I suspect.
I also suspect it would be very helpful if people knew what 'the key' actually was. You hear people talk about it quite often without actually establishing what the key is, perhaps a location, an hint, a guide or a message.
It would also be interesting to establish which Poussin painting the parchments actually refer to before one ventures further into this mystery, there seems to be an element of confusion about that too.
It reminds me a little of the film Raiders of the lost Ark where everyone is trying to establish the length of the staff that sits in an hole in the map room and Jones together with his friend say simultaneously 'they're digging in the wrong place'.
Perhaps Cardou is the wrong length of staff.

Hi Nic
What are you looking for personally? If you found the location would you go on a pilgrimage or are you just curious? If you found the exact place and you knew for sure it was, would you tell anyone else and risk having the place torn up like yesterdays newspaper?
Do you think there is any value in the wording of Le Serpent Rouge in which it stipulates to leave the place as you found it and not touch?

Hi James,
I'm not looking for anything physical per say. I find the story behind RLC interesting and the historical threads that it leads onto are also fascinating if you choose to follow them. Because I regularly visit the region my interest is partly in the general history and culture. I'm sure no-one would deny that the landscape is beautiful and the architecture stunning all across the Languedoc. If by some miracle I stumbled across a 'treasure', I would follow the correct protocols set out by French law.
I would like to add that I have a general abhorrence for the 'treasure hunters' that have destroyed and stolen many of the items and areas associated with the RLC story.
Yes I do believe that Le Serpent Rouge is an important document, and that PdC may well have been privy to information regarding the source of Sauniere's wealth.
I hope this answers your question.
Regards
Nic

Hi Nic,
Thats brilliant that you have respect for the area, the people and the past and shameless of the people that don't have your attitude. One day i'm sure you'll find what you are looking for and in all honesty I think it is there for all to find in one way or another. You may not stumble upon it just by wondering the hills but I suspect it will find you without trying to sound too mysterious.

Cardou was identified in the early 70's as being a repository for some of the temple treasures. Then a book was written "Les dessous d'une ambition politique" to encourage Israel to search in the area. Supposedly the treasure had been removed a few centuries earlier under the guise of mining activities.
The problem was that the information from what I can read was "identified" as being the "treasure of France" people mistakenly believing the treasure was Israel's and not France.
There was supposedly a group that believed they could install a constitutional monarchy based on certain objects and what they purported to do but after WWII and the occult leanings of the heirachy many groups around the world found this a dangerous proposition and mounted operations that monitored, controlled and/or destroyed these threats.

Cardou it is suggested has a significant labyrinth along with Montferrand. It is Cardou that has a relationship to Bugarach.

There is no evidence that Poussin's Sheperds of Arcadia is visual reference of RLC but rather by concentrating on the theme of Arcadia one is able to understand why it was chosen along with the teniers painting to represent the key.

....and your connection to Israel is?

I'm not sure what you mean? But it's really about tracing the Visigothic relationship to treasure. They were greatest pillages and thieves known to mankind and they had been implicated in ransacking of the temple treasures.

That aside their treasures and gold metalwork were quite distinctive. From that follows on the Ostrogoths that showed a lot of geometric design work.

So you're probably wondering what that means. Firstly it means they distinguished between different treasures and therefore different places where the treasure was stored and could used.

Hi Rain,
Yes the Visigoths must have amassed a great wealth of treasure and are associated with the area in historical terms. I'm sure there are treasures of such a nature to be found in the region but for me personally, it's not what I'd be looking for. I'm far more interested in the cultural and spiritual values the area has to offer.

you've asked for people to be specific in naming what they are searching for James, can I ask if you are searching also and if so for what?

Vestige souterrain

I guess I'm like you rest of you guys, a little truth and understanding.

They can be the same thing being that historically the culture and spiritual nature of the treasures identified the sacred areas and had utiltarian functions.

Last night I re-read a section of interview and in fact came across something I had totally missed and I can't say with all the re-reads why I missed it.

I feel it would be beneficial that we through piece by piece.

Peppered's fine, Tommy.

I like a rough, lusty red that spikes the palette.

(We could call this the "Roger Phenomenon" - the more he calls people arseholes and dickheads and tells them to F off, the more a coterie of certain women fall within his thrall - only jealous mind you.)

Now you've got me all inspired Tommy (unfortunately it's only a rehash from a previous post):


ODE TO LE SERPENT ROUGE

Oh mystery of all mysteries
For where doest thou reside?
Clear of all tarnish and blemish
Perfection be thy pride

Sendeth me thine fragrance divine
Quench my passion sublime
Sing to my heart a melody in fire
Rend my desire in early time

Oh sweet sustainer of life empyrean
Bring to my soul light to inspire
Helios himself against thee pales
In thy magnificent presence I expire

Taketh me to beyond all ecstasy
Show me the path glorious and eternal
Thy crimson succulence tames emptiness
All else is but torment infernal