2012: Prophetic or Pathetic?

BULLDOGNIC · **Joined:** 24 Apr 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1872

Following on from Andrew Gough's new article "Maya Myth and Madness" at :-
http://www.andrewgough.com/maya.html
Surprise surprise, this was in the news today.

Quote:

The earliest known Mayan calendar has been found in an ancient house in Guatemala and it offers no hint that the world's end is imminent, researchers said Thursday.
Rather, the painted room in the residential complex at Xultun was likely the place where the town scribe kept records, scrawling computations on the walls in an effort to find "harmony between sky events and sacred rituals," said the study in the journal Science.
The hieroglyphs date back to the ninth century, making them hundreds of years older than the calendars in the Maya Codices, which were recorded in bark-paper books from 1300 to 1521.
Some appear to be the 365-day solar calendar, the 584-day cycle of the planet Venus and the 780-day cycle of Mars, said archaeologist William Saturno of Boston University, who led the exploration and excavation.

Full 'article' at:-
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/earliest-mayan-calendar-shows-no-hint-world-end-175153101.html
Regards
Nic

Eginolf · **Posted:** 12 May 2012 8:41 am

BULLDOGNIC wrote:

Following on from Andrew Gough's new article "Maya Myth and Madness" at :-
http://www.andrewgough.com/maya.html
Surprise surprise, this was in the news today.

Quote:

The earliest known Mayan calendar has been found in an ancient house in Guatemala and it offers no hint that the world's end is imminent, researchers said Thursday.
Rather, the painted room in the residential complex at Xultun was likely the place where the town scribe kept records, scrawling computations on the walls in an effort to find "harmony between sky events and sacred rituals," said the study in the journal Science.
The hieroglyphs date back to the ninth century, making them hundreds of years older than the calendars in the Maya Codices, which were recorded in bark-paper books from 1300 to 1521.
Some appear to be the 365-day solar calendar, the 584-day cycle of the planet Venus and the 780-day cycle of Mars, said archaeologist William Saturno of Boston University, who led the exploration and excavation.

Full 'article' at:-
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/earliest-mayan-calendar-shows-no-hint-world-end-175153101.html
Regards
Nic

I like that. Where's the "like" botton? :lol:

TCP · **Posted:** 13 May 2012 3:56 pm

Ah well, what shall we obsess over now?

TCP

rain · **Posted:** 13 May 2012 9:55 pm

TCP wrote:

Ah well, what shall we obsess over now?

TCP

What makes you think Andrew is right?

2012 is based on a prophecy but has anyone considered the prophecy can be found in other places?
That present day misunderstanding of it's meaning has been obscured by manipulation among conspiracy theories but it doesn't negate the fact that it exists elsewhere and there is knowledge of it's true meaning.

rain · **Posted:** 13 May 2012 10:55 pm

Also has anyone ever thought the prophecy persay isn't for "us".

In other words it's not the type of prophecy that is Joe blow in the street whinging that is coffee is too hot to the minimum wage chick at Macca's.

How is something that has existed for thousands of years - all of sudden be revealed by a lucky few that can read a piece of stone.

The sheer logistics of a true prohecy would be mind-boggling.

Also, there is no point of reference for Westerners because it precedes the Catholic Church by thousands of years.

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

The "documentary" below continues to be shown on US television.

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The History Channel production Apocalypse Island commits some grievous errors of fact. The premise of the show is that "Adventurer" Jim Turner has discovered what he believes to be a Mayan monument on an island hundreds of miles West of Chile. To Turner, these eroded volcanic spires look like the Mayan Sun god and a crouching Jaguar, and he concludes that they must have been sculpted by the Maya.

Quote:

Turner implies that the Maya predicted both the transit of Venus (June 5-6, 2012) and the total solar eclipse (November 13, 2012), and that "… the only place where you can witness these cosmic events in the western hemisphere is out there on the island".

As is typical with these claims, nothing can be further from the truth. In fact neither event will be visible from the island. The islands will in fact witness the solar eclipse, but it will be a partial eclipse, as the islands lay outside the path of totality.

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The notion that the Maya might have pinpointed the location of these events a couple of millennia ago is completely ludicrous. Even if they somehow got hold of a modern-day computer and planetary data equivalent to the accuracy of the latest JPL ephemeris, they still wouldn't be able to do it because of the unknown future variability of the Earth's rotation, leading to an uncertainty of many hours in mean solar time and consequent large errors in longitude.

http://www.2012hoax.org/apocalypse-island

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

Hey ya'll there is a typo on the home-page that needs to be fixed. How is the best way to let Andrew (or someone) know? I don't want to publish the need for correction on Andrew's facebook page.

http://www.andrewgough.co.uk/

Maya, Myth and Madness

"Is this the clam before the proverbial storm".....should be "calm" I'm thinking....

Sheila · **Posted:** 16 May 2012 5:35 pm

oh i don't know ...clam sounds pretty good, considering.
If we all corrected Andrew's spelling there wouldn't be much time for anything else

...he's got a bit of a reputation for his brain working faster than his fingers (did i get that right ?)....and clam sounds miles better than malc or lamc, so hey!

Sheila · **Posted:** 16 May 2012 5:37 pm

try Pm'ing the Engine room.

TCP · **Posted:** 16 May 2012 5:57 pm

Would anyone care to plot the pentagram?

TCP

Sheila · **Posted:** 16 May 2012 5:59 pm

BULLDOGNIC · **Joined:** 24 Apr 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1872

TCP wrote:

Would anyone care to plot the pentagram?

TCP

Regards
Nic

TCP · **Posted:** 16 May 2012 9:13 pm

BULLDOGNIC wrote:

tcp wrote:

Would anyone care to plot the pentagram?

TCP

Regards
Nic

I knew I could count on you, Nic! A Mystic Pizza if there ever was one. :lol:

TCP

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

http://www.haltadefinizione.com/magnifi ... &lingua=en

TCP · **Posted:** 16 May 2012 9:25 pm

TCJ wrote:

http://www.haltadefinizione.com/magnifi ... &lingua=en

Yeah, that works too!

TCP

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

http://www.theoi.com/Gallery/F10.1.html

BULLDOGNIC · **Joined:** 24 Apr 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1872

Here is some news to get the end timers going :-
Yangtze River Turns Red and Turns Up a Mystery

Revelations anyone ?
Regards
Nic
Edit to add:-
Here is the link to the article above
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... a-mystery/

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

Wait until Gog and Magog ride again....

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1800

There's a hill and golf course near me called Gog and Magog

where I've moved to is getting weirder and weirder :mrgreen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_Magog_Downs

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

Davinho wrote:

There's a hill and golf course near me called Gog and Magog

where I've moved to is getting weirder and weirder :mrgreen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_Magog_Downs

That really is funny. And it's really old too.....very interesting.

However, considering how certain people are about the End Times, I would be very careful living in the area.....(my mother is a Methodist preacher...believe me I know from which I speak)

Robert N · **Posted:** 10 Sep 2012 1:40 pm

A one-time Arcadia regular is doing a talk on 2012 in London this week.

http://www.selfs.org.uk/

DVB's talk on the upcoming end of the world is at SELFS on Thursday 13 Sept 2012 at 8pm in a pub near London Bridge. More details in link above.

I'll be there, drunk and heckling probably.

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

Robert N wrote:

A one-time Arcadia regular is doing a talk on 2012 in London this week.

http://www.selfs.org.uk/

DVB's talk on the upcoming end of the world is at SELFS on Thursday 13 Sept 2012 at 8pm in a pub near London Bridge. More details in link above.

I'll be there, drunk and heckling probably.

Wish I could be there to join you!

In all seriousness, because my mother is a preacher, I get to see the stuff she reads.....oy vey. She and my aunt are VERY miffed at me because of my beliefs....the books they are reading right now are full of the last days battles that include Gog and Magog. They don't even understand who these people are/were, but since dogma states they should hate them, they do. I tried to warn them, that the hate they were spreading is gonna bite them in the ass.....but they do not want to listen.

Gog and Magog are certainly riding the Eurasian plains once more in order to attack the Middle East; the hordes coming down from the mountains....and for certain they are destroying the lies told by those who changed history for their own profit. But it is the bones of these warriors that is telling the tale, not any descendants....for the descendants of Gog and Magog are no longer in the area.

For certain it is a Revelation that is changing the entire world, and will destroy the church.

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

Oh yes. Pat Robertson and his years of lectures and wall charts showing the Russians "swooping down" from the north into the Middle East for the oil while their buddies from China sends "hordes" in from the east. As if petro rich Russia needed that oil and would accept their annihilation trying to take it. :roll:

Or his big selling book on the coming world wide economic crisis of 1993 that advised divesting all your property and buying gold and survival supplies. Many did too and were ruined.
A relative by marriage bought a huge diesel generator and big stocks of food in preparation for all the worries over Y2K including The Second Coming. Some find it all humorous but to me it's quite sad and extremely troublesome.

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

TCJ wrote:

Oh yes. Pat Robertson and his years of lectures and wall charts showing the Russians "swooping down" from the north into the Middle East for the oil while their buddies from China sends "hordes" in from the east. As if petro rich Russia needed that oil and would accept their annihilation trying to take it. :roll:

Or his big selling book on the coming world wide economic crisis of 1993 that advised divesting all your property and buying gold and survival supplies. Many did too and were ruined.
A relative by marriage bought a huge diesel generator and big stocks of food in preparation for all the worries over Y2K including The Second Coming. Some find it all humorous but to me it's quite sad and extremely troublesome.

My mother's last name is Robertson....if you only knew.....actually, the Robertson's play a big part in the Gog, Magog story.....be careful who you point your religious weapon of mass destruction at....it may just be your own family!

Spartacus Paraclete · **Joined:** 30 Dec 2009 12:04 pm **Posts:** 1906

TCJ wrote:

Oh yes. Pat Robertson and his years of lectures and wall charts showing the Russians "swooping down" from the north into the Middle East for the oil while their buddies from China sends "hordes" in from the east. As if petro rich Russia needed that oil and would accept their annihilation trying to take it. :roll:

Or his big selling book on the coming world wide economic crisis of 1993 that advised divesting all your property and buying gold and survival supplies. Many did too and were ruined.
A relative by marriage bought a huge diesel generator and big stocks of food in preparation for all the worries over Y2K including The Second Coming. Some find it all humorous but to me it's quite sad and extremely troublesome.

Which is it that you find sad and extremely troublesome?

A) That people like Robertson would exploit the gullible to line their own pockets...

B) That some people are extremely gullible...

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