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I would like an apology.
Alright then, I'm sorry to have bandied words about or with you again.
Did you ever wonder if Seeker, one of the most educated, even tempered, fair minded, professionally studied and enjoyable members here, would have liked an apology also when the attacks on his people went on continually? Did you ever wonder why he left for good in anger?
I expected a forthcoming of the pedantic excuse of being only "anti-Zionist" since that same was expressed often to Seeker when he was questioning your Holocaust denials, that topic being one among others which fell far away from political "anti-Zionism".
If you take advice be sure to discern the differences in UK and US laws and be aware that a counter and similar frivolity could be used in a class action from all the "half-wits" in here. And try to find an honest lawyer, some diligence in the search engine here will show them why they need not pursue.
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If the meaning conveyed cannot by its nature be proved false, it cannot support a libel claim.
RIGHT
I now demand another apology.
I'm forever combatting people's ignorance on here.
I am NOT a Holocaust denier either.
I have had this on my website for getting on for ten years.
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What does Holocaust Revisionism claim?
First of all, because of false representations by the media, it is necessary that we first clarify what Holocaust Revisionism does not maintain:
* it does not deny that Jews were persecuted under the Third Reich;
* it does not deny that Jews were deprived of civil rights;
* it does not deny that Jews were deported;
* it does not deny the existence of Jewish ghettos;
* it does not deny the existence of concentration camps;
* it does not deny the existence of crematoriums in concentration camps;
* it does not deny that Jews died for a great number of reasons;
* it does not deny that other minorities were also persecuted such as gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals, and political dissenters;
* and finally, it does not deny that all the above mentioned things were unjust.
None of these crimes of the National Socialist regime are doubted by Holocaust revisionists. In the view of the Revisionists, however, all these injustices have nothing to do with the Holocaust, which is defined as planned and organized mass murder, carried out specifically in homicidal gas chambers.
Holocaust revisionists believes the following to be correct:
1. There was no National Socialist order for the physical extermination of Jews (cf. R. Widmann);
2. Likewise, there was no National-Socialist plan for physical extermination of Jews;
3. There was no German organization and no budget for carrying out the alleged extermination plan. Consider the statement by the world-renowned Holocaust researcher R. Hilberg:
Raul Hilberg
»But what began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in advance, not organized centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint and there was no budget for destructive measures [of the Juden]. They [the measures]were taken step by step. Thus came about not so much a plan being carried out but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus mind-reading by a far-flung [German] bureaucracy.«);
4. In detailed investigations of former German concentration camps, expert researchers have established: The internment camps had no homicidal gas chambers or sophisticated methods for mass murder (see G. Rudolf, J. Graf (summarized in English by Mattogno, C. Mattogno, F. Berg). Furthermore, the reports of mass shootings were greatly exaggerated and taken out of context (see H. Tiedemann und G. Rudolf/S. Schröder);
5. There were neither adequate industrial facilities nor sufficient fuel to cremate such a huge number of corpses. In fact, the capacity of the crematories was barely sufficient to cremate the bodies of those who died from starvation and epidemics (see the investigations by C. Mattogno and A. Neumaier).
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There is no documentation for the existence of homicidal gas chambers (see G. Rudolf and W. Rademacher), and no material traces of alleged mass murders (see sources given under nos. 4 & 5, R. Krege as well as J.C. Ball (also here)). All the "proofs" rely on eyewitness accounts only, whose unreliability is widely acknowledged (see F. Faurisson, M. Köhler and J. Graf).
7. Despite massive observation by spies and resistance groups in areas in the near vicinity of the German concentration camps, all of Germany's wartime enemies conducted themselves as if no exterminations of Jews were taking place. The charges of genocide were not raised until after Germany's defeat, when there was no German government to dispute them (see A. Butz).
8. Statistical investigations of living Jews worldwide show clearly that the losses of this ethnic group during the Second World War were nowhere near six million. The exact number is probably well under half a million (see the researche by W.N. Sanning and G. Rudolf)
If you want to read a brief summary of revisionist viewpoints, we recommend our leaflet which you can download, print, copy, and distribute as you like. Furthermore, our Revisionist Archive offers a broad variety of introductory articles available on this website and elsewhere.
This view is backed up by records from the
INTERNATIONAL RED CROSSSeeker couldn't handle the truth.
Jews were exploited by persons who purported to be Jewish but they were not true Torah Jews. The aim was to initiate a mass EXODUS to Palestine in order to result in a larger population than the indigenous people there.
There is overwhelming evidence for this.
If you really want to know the truth then read this book
http://www.amazon.co.uk/51-Documents-Zi ... 1569802351A list of actual documents. Edited by Lenni Brenner - Who is Jewish.
Here is something written by an IRAQI Jew. Yes you did read that correctly.
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"I write this article for the same reason I wrote my book: to tell the American people, and especially American Jews, that Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel; that, to force them to leave, Jews killed Jews; and that, to buy time to confiscate ever more Arab lands, Jews on numerous occasions rejected genuine peace initiatives from their Arab neighbors.
"125,000 Jews left Iraq for Israel in the late 1940s and into 1952, most because they had been lied to and put into a panic by what I came to learn were Zionist bombs."
"I was imprisoned at the military camp of Abu-Greib, about 7 miles from Baghdad. When the military court handed down my sentence of death by hanging, I had nothing to lose by attempting the escape I had been planning for many months."
"And I began to find out about the barbaric methods used torid the fledgling state of as many Palestinians as possible. The world recoils today at the thought of bacteriological warfare, but Israel was probably the first to actually use it in the Middle East. In the 1948 war, Jewish forces would empty Arab villages of their populations, often by threats, sometimes by just gunning down a half-dozen unarmed Arabs as examples to the rest. To make sure the Arabs couldn't return to make a fresh life for themselves in these villages, the Israelis put typhus and dysentery bacteria into the water wells."
"Uri Mileshtin, an official historian for the Israeli Defense Force, has written and spoken about the use of bacteriological agents. According to Mileshtin, Moshe Dayan, a division commander at the time, gave orders in 1948 to remove Arabs from their villages, bulldoze their homes, and render water wells unusable with typhus and dysentery bacteria."out what the first prime minister of Israel called "cruel Zionism."
" I write about it because I was part of it."
"AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, THERE IS A SORT OF ALL PERVADING ORTHODOXY, A GENERAL TACIT AGREEMENT NOT TO DISCUSS LARGE AND UNCOMFORTABLE FACTS."- George Orwell
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I think the Bohemian Grove is run by the G.O.P. so hilary's rites are invitation only.
