Rennes Chateau Cropcircles and Metatron Cube

lovuian · **Posted:** 22 Apr 2012 3:39 am

Ufo's over Paris
Interesting

http://youtu.be/bsY37hQmC6E

lovuian · **Posted:** 25 Apr 2012 4:22 pm

this is the Sun god

Queen of Heaven ....Ishtar

The eight-pointed star, a symbol of Inanna/Ishtar, who is identified with the Morning and Evening Star (known to us as the planet Venus)

http://thequeenofheaven.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/the-first-poet/

The Cross on Henry Sinclair Tombstone has the Ishtar Star (Queen of Heaven) star in the middle of which he writes he is a
Templar Knight
The Star is the same that is on Tour Magdala floor
http://www.rgbstock.com/cache1nuo0R/users/g/ga/gabriel77/300/meS7j6q.jpg

lovuian · **Posted:** 25 Apr 2012 4:26 pm

Beauseant wrote:

Hello I am Beauseant and new here!

Probably you all know that there is a red stone anomaly situated in the floor of Tour Magdala. The floor of Tour Magdala is made up by the same black pattern that appears 63 times. And then there is one pattern that has this red stone anomaly.

Saunière must have had a purpose with this red stone, because it was not so that his workmen ran out of black tiles.
Last time I also saw a documentary where Antoine Captier claimed that there is a white equivalent of this stone in Saunière's orangery. Has anyone seen this white stone?

Can I know the opinion of my English friends on the subject?

jb1717 wrote:

Which cardinal direction is the red part toward? And why 63 tiles instead of 64? How do you tile a square floor with an odd number of tiles? Just from the image alone, as you showed it, I can see that the red one is at the position of the angel Raphael in the church water stoup, assuming the red part is at North;

Numbers 2: "As the Holy One blessed be He created four winds (directions) and four banners (for Israel's army), so also did He make four angels to surround His Throne — Michael, Gabriel, Uriel and Raphael. Michael is on its right, corresponding to the tribe of Reuben; Uriel on its left, corresponding to the tribe of Dan, which was located in the north; Gabriel in front, corresponding to the tribe of Judah as well as Moses and Aaron who were in the east; and Raphael in the rare, corresponding to the tribe of Epharim which was in the west."

this is from the thread
http://andrewgough.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=403

lovuian · **Posted:** 25 Apr 2012 4:29 pm

roscoe wrote:

Beauseant wrote:

Hello I am Beauseant and new here!

Probably you all know that there is a red stone anomaly situated in the floor of Tour Magdala. The floor of Tour Magdala is made up by the same black pattern that appears 63 times. And then there is one pattern that has this red stone anomaly.

Saunière must have had a purpose with this red stone, because it was not so that his workmen ran out of black tiles.
Last time I also saw a documentary where Antoine Captier claimed that there is a white equivalent of this stone in Saunière's orangery. Has anyone seen this white stone?

Can I know the opinion of my English friends on the subject?

Quote:

The Red Serpent
Taurus
Thanks to him, from now on with a watchful eye I could make steady progress. I can find the 64 scattered stones of the perfect cube which the Brothers of the BEAUTY of the black wood had scattered when they fled from the white fort while they were being pursued by the usurpers.

Gemini
Reassemble the scattered stones and, working with square and compass, put them back in order; find the line of the meridian in going from East to West, then looking from South to the North and finally in all directions to find the looked-for solution. Station yourself in front of the fourteen stones making a cross. The circle is the ring and crown and the crown forms the diadem of the QUEEN of the Castle.

Cancer
The Mosaic tiles of this sacred place alternate black or white and JESUS, like ASMODEUS observes their alignments. I seem incapable of seeing the summit of the secret place of the Sleeping Beauty. Not being HERCULES with magical power how do I solve the mysterious symbols engraved by the witnesses of the past. In the sanctuary however, is the font, fountain of love, of those who believe reminding us of these words 'BY THIS SIGN YOU WILL CONQUER'.

[b]Le Serpent Rouge

Taureau
"Grâce à lui, désormais à pas mesurés et d'un oeil sur, je puis decouvrir les soixante-quatre pierres dispersées du cube parfait que les Frères de la BELLE du bois noir échappant à la poursuite des usurpateurs, avaient semées en route quant ils s'enfuirent du Fort blanc."

Gemeaux
"Rassembler les pierres éparses, oeuvrer de l'équerre et du compas pour les remettre en order régulier, chercher la ligne du méridien en allant de l'Orient à l'Occident, puis regardant du Midi au Nord, enfin en tous sens pour obtenir la solution cherchée, faisant station devant les quatorze pierres marquées d'une croix. Le cercle étant l'anneau et couronne, et lui le diadème de cette REINE du Castel"

Cancer
"Les dalles du pavé mosaïque du lieu sacré pouvaient-être alternativement blanches ou noires, et JESUS, comme ASMODEE observer leurs alignments , ma vue semblait incapable de voir le sommet où demeurait cachée la merveilleuse endormie. N'étant pas HERCULE à la puissance magique, comment déchiffrer les mystérieux symboles gravés par les observateurs du passé. Dans le sanctuaire pourtant le bénitier, fontaine d'amour des croyants redonne mémoire de ces mots : PAR CE SIGNE TU le VAINCRAS."

I suppose another name could be the Cardinal Serpent[/quote]
[/b]

It was a good find

lovuian · **Posted:** 25 Apr 2012 4:38 pm

64 squares on the floor
at Tour Magdala

and the Queen of the Castle
Magdala's castle

I seem incapable of seeing the summit of the secret place of the Sleeping Beauty. Not being HERCULES with magical power how do I solve the mysterious symbols engraved by the witnesses of the past. In the sanctuary however, is the font, fountain of love, of those who believe reminding us of these words 'BY THIS SIGN YOU WILL CONQUER'.

Rennes Les Bains
floor and the Ishtar star Queen of Heaven thanks to Davinho

It is on top of Bugharach as Davinho shows and it is on the Devils chair

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1799

actually it's halfway up Bugarach :mrgreen:

, if my memory serves me correctly there is also one on Cardou and though I haven't been there (yet) I seem to remember seeing a film of la Pique where there is also one. There's also another film on youtube something like "Templar Shaft on Blanchefort" of what looks like someone lowering a camera down a shaft and halfway down you get a glimpse of something similar although not as detailed

Shasta · **Joined:** 19 Nov 2008 11:01 am **Posts:** 1702

I checked for the YouTube link you mentioned, and this came up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMWp7lJwisI
What also came up were dozens more films about Renne le Chataeu..several by Phillip Gardner..
an interview with Henry Lincoln...OH! and mention that these "secret symbols" are turning up everywhere..
they are modern graffiti being left by the same person where ever he travels...

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1799

yes the are obviously more "modern" creations, on the Devil's Armchair there are other much older carvings. I've had various stories of who did these newer carvings but nothing definitive

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1799

compare the "new" carving to the "old"

lovuian · **Posted:** 25 Apr 2012 7:27 pm

Davinho wrote:

actually it's halfway up Bugarach :mrgreen:

, if my memory serves me correctly there is also one on Cardou and though I haven't been there (yet) I seem to remember seeing a film of la Pique where there is also one. There's also another film on youtube something like "Templar Shaft on Blanchefort" of what looks like someone lowering a camera down a shaft and halfway down you get a glimpse of something similar although not as detailed

Davinho
Thanks so much You really know that area
I noticed on the Koch Snowflake
there is a variant related to the Fleury cross

This is a mathematical variant from the Koch Snowflake ...it is infinite
and get this I think it reflects what is on Sinclairs tomb at Roslyn...we are looking at a variant of a Koch Snowflake

lovuian · **Posted:** 25 Apr 2012 7:39 pm

Davinho wrote:

yes the are obviously more "modern" creations, on the Devil's Armchair there are other much older carvings. I've had various stories of who did these newer carvings but nothing definitive

The Koch snowflake (also known as the Koch star and Koch island[1]) is a mathematical curve and one of the earliest fractal curves to have been described. It is based on the Koch curve, which appeared in a 1904 paper titled "On a continuous curve without tangents, constructible from elementary geometry" (original French title: Sur une courbe continue sans tangente, obtenue par une construction géométrique élémentaire) by the Swedish mathematician Helge von Koch.

Sauniere collapsed near the Tour of Magdala on January 17 1917 and died on January 22 1917

Davinho wrote:

compare the "new" carving to the "old"

Why of all the things to carve on a rock
they pick the star of Isis or Ishtar?
I know the Star of ISIS is part of the OTO
Some say it represents the two stars of Sirius
The Dog Star of ISIS

the Sirius system is one of Earth's near neighbors; for Northern-hemisphere observers between 30 degrees and 73 degrees of latitude (including almost all of Europe and North America), it is the closest star (after the Sun) that can be seen with a naked eye. Sirius is gradually moving closer to the Solar System, so it will slightly increase in brightness over the next 60,000 years. After that time its distance will begin to recede, but it will continue to be the brightest star in the Earth's sky for the next 210,000 years

Shasta · **Joined:** 19 Nov 2008 11:01 am **Posts:** 1702

Lovuian and Davino, regarding that particular "star" or cross shape that you both showed above, I included that same design in my book (page 318 for those here who have a copy).

It has some relevance for my research in India and China... it was known as the Cross Potent. The crusaders used this design, often in red.
Dr. Victor Mair , who spent over 30 years as an archaeologist in the Tarim Basin-Kashgar area, has found the same symbol was associated with magi visiting the area even before the birth of Christ.
In Kashgar is/was located an ancient tomb for "Bibi Injeel" or the "lady from the Bible". I presume that to be one of the Biblical Marys or Mariams. Several of us have made attempts to get to that grave before it dissapears because China is tearing down that old section of Kashgar to make room for new modern buildings.
So my guess is that the Crusaders "may" have used it not only as a symbol of Christianity, but also as a symbol of the secrets of the ancient magi..or the White Brotherhood, which was a branch of magi..I was also looking at the links between magi and Druids..hope this is helpful to you.
[url]wikipedia.org/wiki/magi[/url]

Shasta · **Joined:** 19 Nov 2008 11:01 am **Posts:** 1702

I noted one more thing about these designs that I also included in my book...as this is very relevant to any research in the area. These may also be "tamgas" or family crests (page 306). They appear everywhere in Central Asia. The Old Silk Road stretch of the Karokarum Highway (KKH) has over 10,000 petroglyphs carved into the rocks for the past 2,000 years...many of these tamgas have been used for more than a thousand years by the same families, making their identification quick and easy. They also appear on coins used by ancient rulers such as Kanishka, whom I associated with the family of Jesus..
On this Wikipedia page you will see the black and white drawing of samples of some of the better known tamgas in use during Jesus' era.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushan_Empire
There are many more examples available online and some do represent the same drawings you are posting here. So you have to consider that they may be associated with either families, or secret societies of priests, or both.

lovuian · **Posted:** 25 Apr 2012 10:04 pm

Shasta wrote:

Lovuian and Davino, regarding that particular "star" or cross shape that you both showed above, I included that same design in my book (page 318 for those here who have a copy).

It has some relevance for my research in India and China... it was known as the Cross Potent. The crusaders used this design, often in red.
Dr. Victor Mair , who spent over 30 years as an archaeologist in the Tarim Basin-Kashgar area, has found the same symbol was associated with magi visiting the area even before the birth of Christ.
In Kashgar is/was located an ancient tomb for "Bibi Injeel" or the "lady from the Bible". I presume that to be one of the Biblical Marys or Mariams. Several of us have made attempts to get to that grave before it dissapears because China is tearing down that old section of Kashgar to make room for new modern buildings.
So my guess is that the Crusaders "may" have used it not only as a symbol of Christianity, but also as a symbol of the secrets of the ancient magi..or the White Brotherhood, which was a branch of magi..I was also looking at the links between magi and Druids..hope this is helpful to you.
[url]wikipedia.org/wiki/magi[/url]

Thanks so much Shasta :mrgreen:

You will find or probably already know this Shasta
that the symbols used by the Templars was the eight pointed star ....Star of Isis or Ishtar Queen of Heaven
what is indicated was code for Holy Grail

So we have Rennes Les Bains and Rennes placing the very ancient symbol in their churches
Another thing is that Rennes ceiling has stars up above in its sky
At rosslyn the roof have the stars in stone up above your head

Yes Shasta the star goes way way back to the earliest civilizations of man ...to the Summerians
The Persians and Summerians

But yes the Magi
great point

Mair connects the ancient Bronzeware script for wu 巫 "shaman" (a cross with potents) with a Western heraldic symbol of magicians, the cross potent ☩, which "can hardly be attributable to sheer coincidence or chance independent origination."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magi

Here is the MAGI and there is the eight pointed star of Isis
Basilica of Sant'Apollinare Nuovo in Ravenna, Italy 526 AD

named Balthasar, Melchior, and Gaspar)

Shasta · **Joined:** 19 Nov 2008 11:01 am **Posts:** 1702

Lovuian, I covered these same magi rather extensively (page 271 charts and page 272-273) and even had the same picture in my book until the last edit..
The other variations of the name Casper include Jasper (the Greek variation) -Apellius-Galgat-Galaad- Galahad-Galeas-Gondopharnes ( the same name as the King who Saint Thomas visited) Larvandad-Vindafarna-(which means 'may he find glory'). ..The word Casper-Jasper also refers to the color red, and was applied to gem stones and even red-haired men, descendents of the eldest son of Isaac, Esau -associated with the Edomites. This suggests to me they had Hebrew roots and went to the birth of Jesus to acknowledge him as a king (like themselves) over one of the small kingdoms within the Persian Empire. And so when Pilate asked at the trial, "Are you a King?" and place the titulus on the cross "King of the Jews" this was not mockery but a statement of fact..

Melchoir and Balthazar also have many variations to their names--including their European names..
Melchoir was the oldest and had a long grey beard..Balthazar was middle-aged and swarthy..

These name variations also appear on coins from their era. They were Parthians, each ruling a small kingdom within an area the size of the United States.

hotspur · **Joined:** 19 Feb 2011 12:02 pm **Posts:** 1451

Shasta,

Where or in what is the first mention of the names of the three magi?

Shasta · **Joined:** 19 Nov 2008 11:01 am **Posts:** 1702

Hotspur...originally the name can be traced back to the 6th century BC- associated with the Zorostrians..magicians, astronomers, but especially it was a title for priests..You can read that info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magi

I got additional info from various numismatics who have studied the ancient coins...one man in UK, head of University Dept. of Numismatics- was especially knowledgeable and helpful..

hotspur · **Joined:** 19 Feb 2011 12:02 pm **Posts:** 1451

Shasta,

I wasn't referring to the term "magus".

I am interested in the names, Balthassar, Melchior and Caspar.

lovuian · **Posted:** 26 Apr 2012 12:38 am

Shasta wrote:

Lovuian, I covered these same magi rather extensively (page 271 charts and page 272-273) and even had the same picture in my book until the last edit..
The other variations of the name Casper include Jasper (the Greek variation) -Apellius-Galgat-Galaad- Galahad-Galeas-Gondopharnes ( the same name as the King who Saint Thomas visited) Larvandad-Vindafarna-(which means 'may he find glory'). ..The word Casper-Jasper also refers to the color red, and was applied to gem stones and even red-haired men, descendents of the eldest son of Isaac, Esau -associated with the Edomites. This suggests to me they had Hebrew roots and went to the birth of Jesus to acknowledge him as a king (like themselves) over one of the small kingdoms within the Persian Empire. And so when Pilate asked at the trial, "Are you a King?" and place the titulus on the cross "King of the Jews" this was not mockery but a statement of fact..

Melchoir and Balthazar also have many variations to their names--including their European names..
Melchoir was the oldest and had a long grey beard..Balthazar was middle-aged and swarthy..

These name variations also appear on coins from their era. They were Parthians, each ruling a small kingdom within an area the size of the United States.

Oh interesting Shasta
I like the part of the red heads in connection with Esau

Here is a really cool U tube on the Koch Snowflake
http://youtu.be/azBNsPa1WC4

A shape that has an infinite perimeter but finite area

This is a picture of the Magi delivering gifts to the Christ child
it is a Byzantine mosaic which is in one of the oldest churches in the world
S. Maria in Trastevere. It also has a Cosmatesque floor
http://www2.siba.fi/~kkoskim/rooma/pages/377_028B.HTM
It has a octagonal fountain in its front
It has a eight pointed star

Rennes-les-Bains was originally known as Les Croix, or The Crosses.
http://www.perillos.com/rlb_1.html
The Spring of Magdalene

lovuian · **Posted:** 26 Apr 2012 1:31 am

if you go by the Angels
the Red Angel pointing to the floor
could reflect the
red stone in the unique tile

Shasta · **Joined:** 19 Nov 2008 11:01 am **Posts:** 1702

hotspur wrote:

Shasta,

I wasn't referring to the term "magus".

I am interested in the names, Balthassar, Melchior and Caspar.

Hotspur, Sorry. I misunderstood you. The names of the magi, or even that there were three, first appeared around the 6th century Greek manuscript 'Excerpta Latina Barbari . It's source was purportedly from the Book of Seth.
For a discussion about this, go here:

http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Text/concerning_the_magi_and_their_na.htm

As I mentioned previously, I learned from numismatics that those indeed were the names of kings who ruled at the time of Jesus' birth.
Their names appear on coins by the thousands and are a source of hot debate among numismatics.Further, Thomas visited the king named Gondopharnes (Casper-keeper of the treasures) So we can attest that these kings actually lived and ruled at the time of Christ.
Did they bring three gifts as stated? We can't be sure. Did they ride camels? Probably not...that was only for the deserts and for the poor-everyone else rode good horses. Were they kings or priests? They could have been both...not unusual. Did they slip away from Herod? I am not sure if this was written elsewhere...So we some basis for fact-but also a lot of legend...

Shasta · **Joined:** 19 Nov 2008 11:01 am **Posts:** 1702

Renne...I presume you are LSD-Mormon?
We have a Mormon Church nearby and someone in India once asked me to obtain them a copy of The Book of Mormon. I sent it to him in India-where there are several Mormon communities. That is the closest I have been to a Mormon Church. I apologize for not knowing more-especially the belief that Jesus was in America. Feeling as I do about Jesus' survival of crucifixion and other things, it is within the realm of possibility that he came to America! I promise you I will be doing some more research into these beliefs....I know too little at this time.

Eginolf · **Posted:** 26 Apr 2012 9:21 am

Shasta wrote:

Renne...I presume you are LSD-Mormon?

Shawasta - do those LSD-Mormons get high after all?

wayward · **Posted:** 26 Apr 2012 12:29 pm

Eginolf wrote:

Shasta wrote:

Renne...I presume you are LSD-Mormon?

Shawasta - do those LSD-Mormons get high after all?

That particular group of Mormons is from L.A. Egi!

sorry Shasta, I know it was only a typo, but I couldn't resist.

Eginolf · **Posted:** 26 Apr 2012 3:32 pm

wayward wrote:

That particular group of Mormons is from L.A. Egi!.

... probably stems from Ken Kesey's parties there in the backwoods supported by Jerry Garcia & friends. :lol:

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