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This is what you said, Shasta:






I think it is very clear that you are utterly dismissive of Mr. Woods years of research. And now you're furiously back-peddling so you won't come across as an out-and-out HYPOCRITE. I'm shocked at this kind of behavior.

If Mr. Woods is correct, and he took his work extremely seriously, DNA proof of whateveritisyouareonabout could be somewhere around Rennes-le-Chateau. Surely you should take this breakthrough seriously?

A place for Spartacus.

By the way, why do you stubbornly disturb and disrupt Andrew's forum
with your insistence on the mundane and irrelevent? You don't have much of a life beyond this I presume?
Or do you have an obssesive-compulsive disorder?

What am I disrupting? Your cringingly deluded thread of self-homage?! I seriously doubt Andrew gives a flying toss about my posts on your 'On Being Green' thread. He seems, at the moment, to be more concerned with the frauds and hoaxters that have made this genre into a laughing stock...



Edmund Burke

"Thread of self-homage"? Really? Where in your delusional brain did you come up with that summation?
You make Roger and Roscoe look NORMAL and nice.
OK That does it....You are a total idiot!
I have lost all respect for you.. Rant on Spartacus. Rant on.[/size]

Hold on a second there, Indiana Slue! Roscoe is an agenda driven hate-peddler and a Holocaust Denier. My only crime here is that I absolutely and sincerely think your 'work' is a crock of shit. I think Tim has very adequately shown that your DNA claims are, at very best, nonsensical and at worst, an outright hoax. You have yet to explain how your 'I'm really important somethingorother DNA' narrative works, despite Tim asking you on numerous occasions.

Part of the house rules here mean I can't refer to you as an out and out fake. All the other forum members are bound by the same rules. So therefore I can't unfortunately simply tell you I think you are a fake. Because of that I have to highlight your bullshit in other ways. One way was to point out that you were condescendingly dismissive of poor old Mr. Woods 'research' without having examined it, while at the same time angry at anyone who dared dismiss your rubbish without examining it.

Also, the reason that I referred to this thread as your 'cringingly deluded thread of self-homage' was because you started it after Tim, Rain, and whoever else had made it clear what they thought of your bullshit. Didn't you begin this thread to declare, as an act of bravado, how you don't care if everyone else thinks you a fool?

What I can't understand is why you put yourself up for such ridicule!? Imagine if you had simply taken a great interest in the tradition that Jesus died in India, even living there and traveling there to bolster your research, and then wrote a book describing what you think of that tradition, and even what you think should be done with the tombs etc. Surely very few people would have ridiculed you for undetaking such a task, even if they did not believe the Jesus/India tradition to be accurate.

But you had to add in the 'and um, actually, I'm part of the bloodline too' nonsense. You couldn't resist it, could you?

IMHO this crap completely undermines everything else, rightly or wrongly.

And don't try the 'oh, I only make that claim because it will help the DNA somethingorother to save the tombs blah, blah, blah'. That only fools the very, very credulous IMHO. Tim has very ably dismantled that nonsense.

The same goes for your equally ridiculous 'arch-enemy', The Chosen One, who you ludicrously claim stole your identity as a descendent of Jesus!!!!!

Imagine McGowan had simply written The Chosen One, and made no absurd claims about her unique importance. I suggest she would have been lauded as a decent break-through novelist, writing reasonable fiction for the great mass of Da Vinci Coders desperate for a new belief system. However, she had to go and claim 'um, btw, it's not actually fiction. It's really about me. I'm the Chosen One, descended from Jesus'...

Find the jar, Indiana Slue, find the jar...

A proposition quite obviously proven false by most of the life forms on this forum. Ouvrez les yeux et bottez le cul aux faux procureurs.

Tertius...you cannot remove one line...you must take in consideration as a whole...the quote goes on to say:
"We are connected with something so vast, so immeasurable and sacred, that it cannot be spoken of -"

Good point, Spart. Sue's "difficulty" with KM, leading to Sue filing a lawsuit against her (later dropped) was over the concept of a "grail child" for which Sue feels she has some proprietary right of ownership that KM "stole" from her. Never mind the fact that KM's construct encompassed all the elements of the "Magdalene in France" theme made famous by HBHG years before Sue's book was written, and that India didn't figure in her story at all. I could never quite figure out how Sue rationalized this disconnect in order to boost her "plagiarism" charges, but now I think it's pretty obvious that the real problem for Sue was that KM got instant media attention and notoriety before she bungled it, poisoning the well for future "grail children" to come forward in the process.

TCP

OH TCP That is a bold-faced lie and you know it! Shame on you!
The lawsuite was over the fact that McGowan (aka Anna) claimed she was threatened by me and so Simon and Schuster had to cancel her book tour... The claims were false-totally false! I didn't want to drag S&S into it...and that was my mistake. I should have compelled them to come forward...it wasn't true and they would have to admit that in court..then KMG would have lost everything...and I just didn't have the killer instinct....that is my fault, I will admit to that.
As for the rest of your statement......you are wrong....very wrong...so much was taken from my forum, my life, and my book that too would have stood up in court....then or now...I dont want to go into blow by blow for Andrew's sake...A courtroom would be the place.....not here... Tim, I am deeply saddened by your falsehoods.

You poor, deluded woman. I genuinely feel sorry for you. I remember all the crazy claims and counter-claims flying back and forth between the two of you, charges of trying to sabotage each other by means of poisonous Amazon reviews and alleged "death threats"; the "cancellation" charge was the spark that set you off on your misguided legal trauma, to sue her for millions of dollars in damages in small claims court and without a lawyer. Do you want to know why your lawyers - when you finally sought competent legal advice - wanted you to put up the deed to your house before they'd pursue a claim on your behalf properly? Because your case was baseless and KM would have taken it from you on counter-suit for harassment, leaving your staggering legal bills unpaid. Oh, I well remember this Sue, it was the reason I concluded you weren't merely out of your tree, but downright dangerous to anyone in your periphery.

I'm talking about the underlying causes that led to what was a ridiculous exercise from the word "go". It was your belief that she'd "stolen" your IDEA, not your identity. Maybe you're now confusing the two.

TCP

Tim.....you are completely wrong in your assumptions...completely...
I was never even aware of McGowan until someone from her own forum came to me and told me they
saw a pattern...soon after I wrote something on my forum, it would appear on hers, in her own words...but always AFTER I had written them....that was how it all started..and if anyone felt stalked and harassed, it was me in fear of her..

Further, in her own forum, she never made mention of being a 'grail child' nor did that concept appear in her original manuscript, according to someone from her forum....only after she saw me unfolding the story of a possible grail child in India did she assume the role for herself.. in the wake of DaVinci Code success...and after realizing that I was about to break the same story..
As she told me later, she just "beat me to it"..

I have to grab this...

Originally posted on April 24, today, April 27, I edited this for clarity.

You do that Spartacus...you grab it...
My lawyer has had all the supporting documentation that has been gathered over many years.
The information about the 'grail' child who was going to come forward was posted in my forum- during this time, someone who was a member of both KMG's forum and mine told me he noticed KMG was copying ideas from my forum to hers a few days after I first wrote them. This happened repeatedly over a period of many weeks-months. It led to a confrontation between us, and was the first indication of what she was up to.

I had recently returned from India and was discussing on the forum how best to compile the book..It represented years of my own personal hard work and investment in this Project...my belief in it. I knew someone who would come forward as 'Grail child' in the flesh, not hiding behind fiction. She was 14 years old at the time.

We were not hiding behind fiction. We had real people and real ancient scrolls. That is a fact.The only thing different and new is that now we were going to try to link east and west research, and produce a grail child in India, where no one expected to find her!
The scrolls existed and appeared in an old photo taken before I arrived in Kashmir. They belonged to her grandfather, and he died mysteriously just days before we were to meet and discuss the DNA Project for his grandchildren.
His ancient scrolls certainly were not a cut and paste from my website, not made up fiction. They were very real and avaiolable for anyone who wanted to put them to historical scrutiny.

I posted a few lines from the Kolbrin at my website. Laurence Gardner's web mistress was a friend of mine in New Zealand (where I lived before going to India) and she gave me the copy. It is one of my proudest possessions. She also gave me the first edition of LG's book, "Bloodline of the Holy Grail". I appreciate the friendship, help, and suggestions from these people. It lasted until LG died.
I had abbreviated some of the lines from the Kolbrin for my website. However, these were copied, with my abbreviations, into KMG's book, TEO,the scrolls she claimed were the "original" and authentic secret scrolls that she saw but could not reveal the source...Do you wonder why?

So now we have not one, not two, but a string of "coincidences"...the copies from my forum, the ancient scrolls, the grail child, except that in her book they were all moved to France and KMG became the Grail Child.

How did that leave the 14 year old girl in India feel? After all our work and planning? What happened to her family after this? Do any of you realize the militancy and fundamentalism in Kashmir, and what ridicule, therefore the dangers this exposed her entire family to? They were devastated and went into hiding and I doubt they will ever come forward again....thanks to KMG. KMG and I exchanged emails at the time about this...she is well aware how many people she hurt, and what she did to me and to many others who were on the Project with me.

After this hurtful experience, I made the decision not to involve others again....and so in my revised edition, I put myself in their places. I ask if "I" am a Merovingian, among millions of others, then how do we proceed with the research into bloodlines? And the rest of the book is about bloodlines...Yours. Mine. Jesus. Kanishka. Buddha. Alexander the Great...Even the bloodline of the former King of Korea is discussed...there is nothing ego-centric about this. I know that my book avoids making any claims or statements like that. But of course you would have to read it to understand that.

This stuff with KMG might all have passed as a string of coincidences and she somehow innocently wrote her book without any knowledge of mine, but at the point where lines from my web site appeared as 'original' lines in her version of "secret scrolls", then that changes everything. That was no accident-no coincidence.

I could go on. There are other similarities that appear in her other books as well..but no need to go on here.

The point is this, if you put KMG's versions all together-whether in France, India, or anywhere on the globe, then the story reminds you of? What? I can't hear you Spartacus. Of what I had already written out and discussed in my forum and planned for years? Yup. That's it. I was totally devastated by what happened. I was in shock that she had done this to all of us, and I told her so. Her reply was to say that I was just mad because she "beat me to it". Well, Yes. That would upset anyone.It shows a terrible break in trust and ethics. What do you expect a reaction should be?

I would love for a judge to look over all these "coincidences" and make a ruling..I would abide by that and feel justice has been served, whatever his decision....because people like you, Spartacus, (rare but few) come across confused and hateful, thinking I am being unfair..or confusing India with France, or claiming to walk on water.....so one day perhaps we can let a real judge decide. My book is not written as fiction. That places a heavy burden of honest scrutiny upon me. I stand by my book. I did the best I could and I remain honest.

If you need any help with your cut and pastes...do let me know...better yet, let TCP know...he'll help you.

And this...

btw, didn't you claim to have me on ignore?