Ben Hammott's Confession on Radio

Jean Vié · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 9:10 am

Here is the link to Ben Hammott explaining how he carried out the hoax on René Barnett's radio show...

http://latalkradio.com/Rene.php (scroll down - first on the list)

rs2008 · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 9:48 am

Thankyou Jean, predictable content, admittedly I had to stop listening after 20 minutes, couldn't stand the interviewer's voice and accent, and mostly inane questions. High five for American forensic archaeology as well.

Thomas D. · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 2:47 pm

rs2008 wrote:

Thankyou Jean, predictable content, admittedly I had to stop listening after 20 minutes, couldn't stand the interviewer's voice and accent, and mostly inane questions. High five for American forensic archaeology as well.

As well as her tenuous grip on History 101.
Maybe in the Mid-West she counts as an intellectual?

TD

lovuian · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 5:44 pm

Thanks so much Jean Vei

I am very glad to get his explanation on the Bigou parchment

I'm not quite sure that I believe all of it but I give Kudos for Rene asking how he did it.
Either Ben is a genius or very luck

Rene explained that many professionals were taken in
He got the right sized vial to fit exactly in the baluster when he never really saw it except from Andre Doucet's description
Very lucky

and he painted wood to look like a rose plinth or rose marble under the body

but one wonders why did he go to all the trouble of painting it rose color?

What was he hoping to achieve with that extra effort
it would have been easier to just call it all the same color
what DETAIL what was he basing the model on?

and I loved Sandy's question
that he wrote in Latin and on the quadrivium
He couldn't pronounce it
but if I remember right there was also Celtic on that parchment
or is my memory going :roll:

TCP · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 6:16 pm

lovuian wrote:

but if I remember right there was also Celtic on that parchment
or is my memory going :roll:

Celtic? Do you mean Gaelic?

TCP

fmh999 · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 7:01 pm

lovuian wrote:

Thanks so much Jean Vei

I am very glad to get his explanation on the Bigou parchment

I'm not quite sure that I believe all of it but I give Kudos for Rene asking how he did it.
Either Ben is a genius or very luck

Rene explained that many professionals were taken in
He got the right sized vial to fit exactly in the baluster when he never really saw it except from Andre Doucet's description
Very lucky

and he painted wood to look like a rose plinth or rose marble under the body

but one wonders why did he go to all the trouble of painting it rose color?

What was he hoping to achieve with that extra effort
it would have been easier to just call it all the same color
what DETAIL what was he basing the model on?

and I loved Sandy's question
that he wrote in Latin and on the quadrivium
He couldn't pronounce it
but if I remember right there was also Celtic on that parchment
or is my memory going :roll:

what DETAIL what was he basing the model on?

That is one of the main questions.....and whether he was the one anyway. The whole thing looks like a patchwork done by different parties with different knowledges of the whole RLC story.

Aprositus Nesos · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 8:08 pm

I rather had the impression he was suggesting he orchestrated his own 'outing' (as mentioned in another thread.) He is still trying to be the hero in his own story, I suppose.

fmh999 · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 8:45 pm

OMG....I am only listening now to the interview....sorry guys, I really can't take his answers for real - so re-active and sometimes you can feel he has no clue what to answer. The box found, OK, there he goes straight, but the questions in the beginning....no sorry, don't buy it!!

Ah, yeah, the full sized tomb has gone - as I expected before listening to it...

But anyway, lets move on. That this is now history.

lovuian · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 11:11 pm

fmh999 wrote:

OMG....I am only listening now to the interview....sorry guys, I really can't take his answers for real - so re-active and sometimes you can feel he has no clue what to answer. The box found, OK, there he goes straight, but the questions in the beginning....no sorry, don't buy it!!

Ah, yeah, the full sized tomb has gone - as I expected before listening to it...

But anyway, lets move on. That this is now history.

I was tickled with Sandy's question about the Bigou Parchment
She still is trying how to figure out how he did it
and Rene really caught him with the workshops and how he had a miniature model but the large one was destroyed

Later in December 2007 Bruce and I met with leading Israeli archaeologist Dr Gabriel Barkay of Bar ilan University in Jerusalem, who is one of the world’s most respected authorities on 1st and 2nd Temple period relics. Gaby analyzed the chest contents and confirmed the Jar, cup and vial were 100% authentic ancient relics. About the glass vial Gaby said it was known as an alabastra which is early Roman glass imitating alabaster.
http://www.benhammott.com/glass-vial.html

It seems Ben was in Jerusalem?

Renne · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2012 11:57 pm

Isn`t that an octopus on the latch of the box? How does one find a 100 yr. old

box lined with 100 yr. old wallpaper that has the PoS octopus insignia on it which the team

referred to as "a floral design". People want to see his E-Bay account - 20 miniature

golden goblets....

BULLDOGNIC · **Joined:** 24 Apr 2008 2:43 pm **Posts:** 1872

Renne wrote:

Isn`t that an octopus on the latch of the box? How does one find a 100 yr. old

box lined with 100 yr. old wallpaper that has the PoS octopus insignia on it which the team

referred to as "a floral design". People want to see his E-Bay account - 20 miniature

golden goblets....

But a 100 yr old box off E-Bay, then draw an octopus on it :roll:

Or use 100 yr old wood and wallpaper and build it ( I would presume the first answer is the easiest though ) ?
Regards
Nic

gjt · **Joined:** 18 Apr 2010 8:50 pm **Posts:** 1

Ben's "hidden" statement on his website:

http://www.benhammott.com/hammott-statement.html

Spartacus Paraclete · **Joined:** 30 Dec 2009 12:04 pm **Posts:** 1906

gjt wrote:

Ben's "hidden" statement on his website:

http://www.benhammott.com/hammott-statement.html

Ben Hammott writes:

Quote:

I wish I could explain why I started it or why I let things steadily spiral out of control. I am not even sure myself at this stage. The solving of the clues in Sauniere's church to find the cave where I staged the tomb, (See my Secrets of Rennes-le-Chateau books for varification) and some of the other locations, were all real, it was just someone had always been their before me, so I just used these locations to stage my hoaxes. I had been hoping I could find the real secret of Rennes-le-Chateau, whatever form that may take, in the belief that it would in some way make up for the hoax I had committed. But after many years had passed involving many trips to the area searching for this secret, I finally realised that perhaps I would never find it or if it was still there to be found, just like before perhaps someone had already beaten me to it. The book also contains a lot of original research that includes an in depth look at the brutal murder of the Abbe Gelis and lots more. All of my other Rennes-le-Chateau publications, except for my discoveries album, are all based on fact and are not affected by my hoax.

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

It has been my experience, that a con-man will NEVER admit the con. It's too easy just to expand the lie and keep on going.

So what's this confession all about? He didn't sound like a man that had been caught at something he is ashamed of. There is something missing in the tone of Ben's voice during the entire confession......humility.

IMHO somebody has something on the Tomb Man, the exposure of which is much more damaging and/or costly (may possibly include jail time or a jealous husband with power) than the Tomb Hoax. Whatever this is, I am sure that if Ben were to confess to it, you would hear much more emotion in his voice.

It seems to me, that the entire universe is going through an 'age' where fraud of all sorts is being exposed for what it is. People whose lives are built on lies are seeing it all come crashing down around them. It's a good thing.

VeryAngryMother · **Posted:** 17 Apr 2012 1:52 pm

Dip, he was caught with his pants down so he had no choice but to admit the hoax really did he? And in the 30 years I've known him he's never shown that he felt shame for any of his many misdemeanours so I wouldn't expect him to do so now. Some people just don't do shame and emotion.

And I don't think any of his shag bunnies would have jealous husbands with power so we can rule that one out! :mrgreen:

VAM

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

VeryAngryMother wrote:

Dip, he was caught with his pants down so he had no choice but to admit the hoax really did he? And in the 30 years I've known him he's never shown that he felt shame for any of his many misdemeanours so I wouldn't expect him to do so now. Some people just don't do shame and emotion.

And I don't think any of his shag bunnies would have jealous husbands with power so we can rule that one out! :mrgreen:

VAM

Con-men never do show emotion (unless a con has been executed successfully against them, then.....oh! the drama!). They just lie more. Even when caught in the act, they will have to ask...."Who do you believe? Me or your lying eyes?" ~ Jr. Ewing

They can be their most charming when cornered, no?

Shag bunnies.....damn girl, that's polite. I've got other, more colorful names I use.... :evil:

VeryAngryMother · **Posted:** 17 Apr 2012 2:28 pm

Serendipity wrote:

Shag bunnies.....damn girl, that's polite. I've got other, more colorful names I use.... :evil:

I always show respect to the less fortunate! :wink:

VAM

Shasta · **Joined:** 19 Nov 2008 11:01 am **Posts:** 1702

shag bunnies are "less fortunate"? Big scandal in the USA this past week...they were shortchanged by the CIA clients and demanded full pay.....hmmm wonder if it pays better than sales clerks? Or book authors?

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1799

Quote:

IMHO somebody has something on the Tomb Man, the exposure of which is much more damaging and/or costly (may possibly include jail time or a jealous husband with power) than the Tomb Hoax. Whatever this is, I am sure that if Ben were to confess to it, you would hear much more emotion in his voice.

what? you don't think faking and trying to sell the Ark Of The Covenant quite does it then?

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

VeryAngryMother wrote:

Serendipity wrote:

Shag bunnies.....damn girl, that's polite. I've got other, more colorful names I use.... :evil:

I always show respect to the less fortunate! :wink:

VAM

less fortunate!.....muahahahahahahahaha

I love your sense of humour VAM.

Do the less fortunate read the forum by any chance?.........muhahahahahaha

Okay, less fortunate, sk%$#y 'h*&s aside......I believe the con/game is still ongoing; you can hear it in his voice. Wonder how many 'shit eatin' grins' we would have seen if we could have seen his face while he was confessing in the car park?

The other 'tell' that the con is continuing is his support group....they still support him because it profits them/it's still to their advantage. This support group allows Ben to opperate outside what is considered the 'norm' of society. They do this because Ben is The (tomb) Man.....he even gave himself the name. Because Ben is 'the man' he gets to play under a totally different set of rules than the rest of us.

Con games of this magnitude never just go away quietly, they go down in flames. This ain't on fire yet, it's just smoking.

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

Davinho wrote:

Quote:

IMHO somebody has something on the Tomb Man, the exposure of which is much more damaging and/or costly (may possibly include jail time or a jealous husband with power) than the Tomb Hoax. Whatever this is, I am sure that if Ben were to confess to it, you would hear much more emotion in his voice.

what? you don't think faking and trying to sell the Ark Of The Covenant quite does it then?

He didn't sound all that upset about it.....why should I?

VeryAngryMother · **Posted:** 17 Apr 2012 3:51 pm

Serendipity wrote:

Do the less fortunate read the forum by any chance?.........muhahahahahaha

Oh dear, let's hope not.. I'm sure they're already feeling a little shortchanged atm! :mrgreen:

Serendipity wrote:

Okay, less fortunate, sk%$#y 'h*&s aside......I believe the con/game is still ongoing; you can hear it in his voice. Wonder how many 'shit eatin' grins' we would have seen if we could have seen his face while he was confessing in the car park?

The other 'tell' that the con is continuing is his support group....they still support him because it profits them/it's still to their advantage. This support group allows Ben to opperate outside what is considered the 'norm' of society. They do this because Ben is The (tomb) Man.....he even gave himself the name. Because Ben is 'the man' he gets to play under a totally different set of rules than the rest of us.

Con games of this magnitude never just go away quietly, they go down in flames. This ain't on fire yet, it's just smoking.

I'd say that's a pretty good summing up Dip!

VAM

Serendipity · **Joined:** 20 May 2008 3:32 pm **Posts:** 2894

Quote:

I'd say that's a pretty good summing up Dip!

VAM

Yeah VAM.....I believe our lives for the past 7 years or so have been very similar.....different games have been played, but a con is a con.....

VeryAngryMother · **Posted:** 17 Apr 2012 4:32 pm

Serendipity wrote:

Yeah VAM.....I believe our lives for the past 7 years or so have been very similar

Oooh I doubt that Dip but that's another story..

Serendipity wrote:

.....different games have been played, but a con is a con.....

You're not wrong there love!

VAM

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1799

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He didn't sound all that upset about it.....why should I?

I think you are right in your assessment of his character and with that in mind will he sound sincerely upset about anything? I somehow doubt it but I do believe his last charade and it's uncovering was plenty incentive to 'fess up. He's playing with some pretty serious subject matter

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