A plant that enables people to see the dead.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6963

Iboga ChapterOne

How to see the dead

Used medically to treat heroine addiction. Too much can induce a stroke.

It is illegal in the USA even for medical treatment.

Taken by the Bwiti

Sheila · **Posted:** 01 Nov 2010 9:38 am

yup, larger doses of ibogaine can significantly reduce withdrawal from opiates and temporarily eliminate substance-related cravings.

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

One of the authors first visions was of his deceased father.

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The first time an Ashaninca man told me that he had learned the medicinal properties of plants by drinking a hallucinogenic brew, I thought he was joking. We were in the forest squatting next to a bush whose leaves, he claimed, could cure the bite of a deadly snake. "One learns these things by drinking ayahuasca," he said.

The Cosmic Serpent
DNA and The Origins of Knowledge
by Jeremy Narby

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc ... _adn12.htm

Eginolf · **Posted:** 26 Mar 2012 6:12 am

Sheila wrote:

yup, larger doses of ibogaine can significantly reduce withdrawal from opiates and temporarily eliminate substance-related cravings.

It's being used for cure in Amsterdam and Switzerland since the 80's. A nice place to go for it, IMHO, is Ghana.

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1812

watched a good DVD whilst in RLC last year about Ibogaine. It seems to give the user a temporary window of opportunity to understand the cause of their addiction - it seems to work with many forms not just opiate addiction. The user has to grab that opportunity

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The Cosmic Serpent
DNA and The Origins of Knowledge
by Jeremy Narby

Narby's book is also interesting IMO. Worth reading Strassman's The Spirit Molecule after that.
If it's after death communication try IADC (Induced After Death Communication) wriiten by Alan Botkin the therapist that devised it. It's a form of EMDR, this is when a finger iswaved back in forth in a patients peripheral vision, this helps induce REM patterns which, the theory goes, allows you to process more data at a quicker rate - it is used in PTSD therapy.

Sheila · **Posted:** 26 Mar 2012 5:25 pm

Exactly the same order i read those two books in.

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

A plant that enables people to see the ufos.
One of the many vision paintings by Pablo Amaringo...

Sheila · **Posted:** 26 Mar 2012 7:22 pm

a different reality via ayahuasca.

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

What strikes me is how the art above is so identical to some I'd seen from earlier anthropology reports back in the 70's. The snake and the DNA motifs are predominate often times with each individual artist.

Eginolf · **Posted:** 27 Mar 2012 6:27 am

Sheila wrote:

a different reality via ayahuasca.

... which I experienced about a dozen times in 1979 and 1980. It's not for everyone but highly recommended to anyone with some shaman capacities.

Davinho · **Joined:** 26 Jan 2010 10:58 am **Posts:** 1812

after her first successfull inhalation of salvia from a water pipe my wife found herself in a garden in summer with her mother and father - both deceased. I'm not too sure about salvia. My first successful experience blow me out of my tree, terrified me and yet had me laughing at how made it was when I came to. But I have since sat with a few others who have never tried and accompanied them. Maybe it was the added responsibility but I was able to view my own experience more objectively whilst in that experience - something I was unable to do in the first big trip. And with that I was able to understand a lot of what I was experiencing - like the sounds that felt like langague before but after repeated journeys then maybe not. Difficult to obviously explain

lovuian · **Posted:** 27 Mar 2012 10:20 pm

Dr. Rick Strassman, while conducting DMT research in the 1990s at the University of New Mexico, advanced the controversial hypothesis that a massive release of DMT from the pineal gland prior to death or near death was the cause of the near death experience (NDE) phenomenon

Several of his test subjects reported NDE-like audio or visual hallucinations. His explanation for this was the possible lack of panic involved in the clinical setting and possible dosage differences between those administered and those encountered in actual NDE cases. Several subjects also reported contact with 'other beings', alien like, insectoid or reptilian in nature, in highly advanced technological environments[12] where the subjects were 'carried,' 'probed,' 'tested,' 'manipulated,' 'dismembered,' 'taught,' 'loved,' and even 'raped' by these 'beings' (one could note the strong similarities of these bodily tests/invasions in other psychedelic experiences throughout time, outlined in Graham Hancock's "Supernatural"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine

n December 2004, the Supreme Court lifted a stay thereby allowing the Brazil-based União do Vegetal (UDV) church to use a decoction containing DMT in their Christmas services that year. This decoction is a tea made from boiled leaves and vines, known as hoasca within the UDV, and ayahuasca in different cultures. In Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficente Uniao do Vegetal, the Supreme Court heard arguments on November 1, 2005 and unanimously ruled in February 2006 that the U.S. federal government must allow the UDV to import and consume the tea for religious ceremonies under the 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

In September, 2008, the three Santo Daime churches filed suit in federal court to gain legal status to import DMT-containing ayahuasca tea. The case, Church of the Holy Light of the Queen v. Mukasey,[107] presided over by Judge Owen M. Panner, was ruled in favor of the Santo Daime church. As of March 21, 2009 a federal judge says members of the church in Ashland can import, distribute and brew ayahuasca. U.S. District Judge Owen Panner issued a permanent injunction barring the government from prohibiting or penalizing the sacramental use of "Daime tea." Panner's order said activities of The Church of the Holy Light of the Queen are legal and protected under freedom of religion. His order prohibits the federal government from interfering with and prosecuting church members who follow a list of regulations set out in his order

The first thing Gonzalez did as Attorney General was go after the tea drinkers
but he lost

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

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a massive release of DMT from the pineal gland prior to death or near death

Vassopressin is also released massively. A "life passing before my eyes" experience can be induced clinically with it.
Neither chemical manifestation detracts away from the mystery, imo.
G-LOC studies can't explain why a jet pilot is unconscious but above the flying craft watching himself....being "unconscious".
There's numerous studies on that including reports of centrifuge riders walking down the hall afterward but seeing everything below them from the ceiling, including themselves.

roscoe · **Joined:** 02 Dec 2006 3:44 pm **Posts:** 6963

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Less than 50,000 years ago mankind had no art, no religion, no sophisticated symbolism, no innovative thinking. Then, in a dramatic and electrifying change, described by scientists as "the greatest riddle in human history", all the skills and qualities that we value most highly in ourselves appeared already fully formed, as though bestowed on us by hidden powers. In Supernatural Graham Hancock sets out to investigate this mysterious "before-and-after moment" and to discover the truth about the influences that gave birth to the modern human mind. His quest takes him on a journey of adventure and detection from the stunningly beautiful painted caves of prehistoric France, Spain and Italy to remote rock shelters in the mountains of South Africa where he finds a treasure trove of extraordinary Stone Age art. He uncovers clues that lead him to travel to the depths of the Amazon rainforest to drink the powerful plant hallucinogen Ayahuasca with Indian shamans, whose paintings contain images of "supernatural beings" identical to the animal-human hybrids depicted in prehistoric caves and rock shelters. And hallucinogens such as mescaline, also produce visionary encounters with exactly the same beings. Scientists at the cutting edge of consciousness research have begun to consider the possibility that such hallucinations may be real perceptions of other "dimensions". Could the "supernaturals" first depicted in the painted caves and rock shelters be the ancient teachers of mankind? Could it be that human evolution is not just the "blind", "meaningless" process that Darwin identified, but something else, more purposive and intelligent, that we have barely even begun to understand?

Chapter 1 read by Graham Hancock

Eginolf · **Posted:** 29 Mar 2012 6:57 am

TCJ wrote:

There's numerous studies on that including reports of centrifuge riders walking down the hall afterward but seeing everything below them from the ceiling, including themselves.

Simply OOBEs. It started with me in May 1974, long time before I read the books of Muldoon & Carrington or Robert A. Monroe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

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Simply OOBEs

And now able to be created mechanically with such repetition and regularity to cause any sane skeptic or naysayer to have a second look.

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People See Verified Events While Out-Of-Body
Dr. Raymond Moody's Groundbreaking Research

In Life After Life, Moody documents a number of veridical near-death experiences which will be described here. This veridical evidence suggests the possibility that consciousness can exist away from the body. In light of such veridical evidence, other NDE theories fall by the wayside because they cannot account for these veridical details. And although the available veridical NDE evidence does not constitute scientific proof of consciousness surviving bodily death, it does qualify as very powerful circumstantial and anecdotal evidence, the kind of evidence that is upheld every day in courts of law all around the country.

The following are some examples of veridical NDEs documented by Moody:

Example 1: An elderly woman had been blind since childhood. But, during her NDE, the woman had regained her sight and she was able to accurately describe the instruments and techniques used during the resuscitation her body. After the woman was revived, she reported the details to her doctor. She was able to tell her doctor who came in and out, what they said, what they wore, what they did, all of which was true. Her doctor then referred the woman to Moody who he knew was doing research at the time on NDEs.

More...
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence02.html

Eginolf · **Posted:** 29 Mar 2012 4:21 pm

TCJ wrote:

And now able to be created mechanically with such repetition and regularity to cause any sane skeptic or naysayer to have a second look.

at the least. It sounds strange and unbelievable.

Sheila · **Posted:** 29 Mar 2012 4:56 pm

Good to have you back TCJ.

TCJ · **Joined:** 22 Sep 2008 3:15 pm **Posts:** 1566

Thank you, Sheila.
Good to see you too.

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